A possible reason for the covid lockdowns

a reply to: astra001uk

Or maybe, as another method of psychological terror the chosen experts simply say that this alleged virus will now be responsible for any and every single symptom you will ever have again is because of covid.
Treat this global psychological terrorism operation as the lie it is and your sudden fears of seasonal respiratory illnesses will gradually wane.

Grab operation hypochondriac by the nads and kick to outer space.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Silcone Synapse

I'd have to see the percentages of long-term side effects before I conclude that's a serious risk factor though, and so far, they haven't broken down those risks like they have your chances of dying with comorbidities and for your age group.

Why not? It would seem they have a decent pool of people to study.

While the long term physical side effects may end up being a problem for society(and you are right,we don't really know those risks yet)-the unforseen side effects I am more worried about are the geo political and the ways I believe certain countries are trying to exploit the pandemic.
The obvious one I am seeing in the developed world is the usual response to any crisis-the stealing away of rights and freedoms that our ancestors gave their blood and lives for.
The obsession with ramping up surveillance of everyone,the tightening of thought control,the deindividualising of society.
That isn't my biggest concern(although that is bad enough).

My biggest concern is that this is a clandestine act of war by China,and is a major part of their big push to become the dominat power on earth.
Like the OP said-the pandemic could collapse certain countries,and not just the poorest nations,although they will likley get hit hardest.
Ask yourself-If you are hellbent on global domination-would you prefer to fight "enemy" countries when they are at full strength economically and with healthy populations,OR would it be advantageous if the enemy countries you are targeting are "softened up" first,by something which destroys not on the health of that country,but also its economy and its peoples trust in their institutions.

If you can seed chaos among your enemies before a shot is even fired,you have the high ground when the shooting starts.

Someone very highly regarded in military circles put it much better than I could-

"Every battle is won BEFORE it is fought."

"In the midst of chaos,there is also opportunity."

"The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting."

Sun Zu,from "The art of war."

www.msn.com...
Just to back up my take on this whole Covid 19 thing
A great many good points are discussed by tonycodes here too
www.abovetopsecret.com...

I know several people who have the symptoms included in the OP yet have consistently tested negative for Covid. How is that possible if a virus is the sole source of the illnesses we are seeing? The other new thing in our environment happens to be 5G and the Skylink satellites which I can't help but wonder about.

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originally posted by: Oaktree
Funny thing, I mentioned to my wife that here we go, first “vaccinating” the very front line that we rely on.
Fire/ rescue, emergency workers, police and health care workers.

Take them out in the midst of a pandemic and then things go bad really fast.

Don't forget our military is now almost entirely jabbed, too.

www.msn.com... Revealed: Wuhan and US scientists planned to create new coronaviruses
Sarah Knapton 7 hrs ago


Scientists from Wuhan and the US were planning to create new coronaviruses that did not exist in nature by combining the genetic codes of other viruses, proposals show.

Wuhan scientists have consistently denied creating Sars-CoV-2 in a lab
Documents of a grant application submitted to the US Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (Darpa), leaked last month, reveal that the international team of scientists planned to mix genetic data of closely related strains and grow completely new viruses.

A genetics expert working with the World Health Organisation (WHO), who uncovered the plan after studying the proposals in detail, said that if Sars-CoV-2 had been produced in this way, it would explain why a close match has never been found in nature.

So far the closest naturally occurring virus to Sars-CoV-2 is a strain called Banal-52, which was reported from Laos last month and shares 96.8 per cent of the genome. Yet scientists expect a direct ancestor to be around a 99.98 per cent match – and none has been found so far.

The Darpa proposals, leaked to the pandemic origins analysis group Drastic, show the team had planned to take sequences from naturally occurring coronaviruses and use them to create a brand new sequence that was an average of all the strains.

The grant application, submitted in 2018, states: "We will compile sequence/RNAseq data from a panel of closely related strains and compare full length genomes, scanning for unique SNPs representing sequencing errors.

"Consensus candidate genomes will be synthesised commercially using established techniques and genome-length RNA and electroporation to recover recombinant viruses."

Explaining the proposal, a WHO collaborator, who has asked not to be named for fear of reprisals, said: "This means that they would take various sequences from similar coronaviruses and create a new sequence that is essentially the average of them. It would be a new virus sequence, not a 100 per cent match to anything.



"They would then synthesise the viral genome from the computer sequence, thus creating a virus genome that did not exist in nature but looks natural as it is the average of natural viruses.

"Then they put that RNA in a cell and recover the virus from it. This creates a virus that has never existed in nature, with a new 'backbone' that didn't exist in nature but is very, very similar as it's the average of natural backbones."

The source said it was noteworthy that the cut-off for generating such an average sequence was viruses that only had five per cent genetic divergence from each other.

Last year, scientists at the Wuhan Institute of Virology said they had found a strain named RaTG13 in bat droppings in a cave in Yunnan province in 2013 which was a 96.1 per cent match to Sars-CoV-2. It means RaTG13 could have been included in a set of viral genomes to help create an average sequence.

Although the grant proposal was rejected in 2018, the Wuhan database of viral strains was taken offline prior to the Covid outbreak some 18 months later, meaning it is impossible to check which viruses the team was working on or had created. Wuhan scientists have consistently denied creating Sars-CoV-2 in a lab.

The WHO source added: "If Sars-CoV-2 comes from an artificial consensus sequence composed of genomes with more than 95 per cent similarity to each other… I would predict that we will never find a really good match in nature and just a bunch of close matches across parts of the sequence, which so far is what we are seeing.

"The problem is that those opposed to a lab leak scenario will always just say that we need to sample more, and absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence. Scientists overall are afraid of discussing the issue of the origins due to the political situation. This leaves a small and vocal minority of biased scientists free to spread misinformation."



The proposal was submitted by the British zoologist Peter Daszak on behalf of a consortium which included Daszak EcoHealth Alliance, the Wuhan Institute of Virology, the University of North Carolina and Duke NUS in Singapore.

The plans are in addition to other proposals made in the Darpa documents, including inserting a section into existing viruses to make them more infectious to humans and inoculating wild bats with aerosolised engineered spike proteins from viruses.

Experts said if the ultimate aim of the proposal was to create a pan-coronavirus vaccine, constructing an "ideal" average virus would have been a good starting point.

Mr Daszak, currently a member of the WHO team investigating the pandemic's origins, was also behind a letter published in The Lancet which dismissed suggestions that Covid did not have a natural origin as a conspiracy theory.

The WHO source said he had struggled to raise the issue of a lab leak with other scientists and had been warned not to go on the record with his concerns.

The proposal team has been approached for comment but had not responded at the time of publication.

The Independent
Revealed - Health secretary’s private alarm at ‘huge’ and growing problem of long Covid
Shaun Lintern 1 hour ago


Health secretary Sajid Javid has expressed alarm at the rising numbers of people suffering long Covid symptoms, telling a private meeting of health officials that the problem was “huge” and “getting bigger”.

The meeting was given an update on long Covid treatment, with NHS England bosses revealing 10 per cent of all clinic appointments were being taken up by NHS staff in a sign of the potential longer term impact of coronavirus and the risk it could undermine already depleted staffing levels.

NHS staff are most likely to be affected by long Covid, followed by staff in social care and teachers. As many as 125,000 NHS staff may be affected by persistent symptoms.

Public Health England has faced criticism over its guidance for NHS staff which suggested most should wear only basic surgical masks instead of higher grade masks to guard against airborne spread. Some NHS trusts have ignored the rules amid concern staff were being put at increased risk.

The meeting also heard that patients getting appointments at long Covid clinics were disproportionately white, with just under a fifth coming from the most deprived communities. This is despite infection levels overall being highest in these areas.

The latest data from the Office for National Statistics (ONS) this week revealed more than 1.1 million people were now reporting lasting symptoms from a Covid-19 infection, with 405,000 suffering its effects for more than a year.

The ONS found 211,000 people had reported their ability to carry out daily activities was being significantly affected by the condition.

Concerns over the potential impact of long Covid is rising in Whitehall as some officials fear the impact on the NHS and the wider economy. Patient groups have reported long delays in being seen, with some criticising doctors for not believing their symptoms.

At a roundtable update at the end of September, Mr Javid heard details from statisticians at the ONS setting out the scale of the problem and the wider prevalence of cases.

There were also “hideous” stories from two long Covid patients who urged the health secretary to do more.

Sources who attended the meeting said the minister highlighted “the new challenge” posed by the condition and that experts were still having to learn about it and understand what exactly it is.

After being told the latest estimates of people suffering for more than a year, the secretary of state said: “That’s huge. The numbers are only getting bigger.”

He urged those on the call from the Department of Health and Social Care and the NHS to listen to patient experiences as “we’re the ones that can do something”.

He described long Covid as a “hugely important topic” facing the government and said new health minister Maria Caulfield, a former nurse, would be leading the response.

Mr Javid told the meeting there was still a lack of consensus on what exactly long Covid was and how to measure it.

He also said the vaccination rollout to school children was an important step in protecting some youngsters as many would be unable to avoid being infected at some stage.

Cathy Hassell, director of clinical policy, quality and operations at NHS England, told the meeting the health service had achieved five of its 10 long Covid targets and now had every part of the country served by at least one dedicated clinic.

She said the number of appointments at clinics taken up by NHS staff was “disproportionately high” and work was going on to make sure affected NHS staff had access to specialist mental health hubs, occupational health service and rapid referral to the long Covid clinics.

The meeting was told that around 6,000 referrals were being made in each four-week period, with 4,000 specialist assessments and 5,000 follow-up appointments a month.

The meeting heard more action was needed to increase referrals as the numbers coming forward for help were much smaller than the levels of people reporting problems to the ONS. A new enhanced GP service has gone live this month which may help direct more patients to clinics.

Another concern was the demographics of those using the clinics. The meeting was told 63 per cent accessing the service were women, and 81 per cent were white. Only 17 per cent were from the most deprived areas.

This could mean ethnic minorities and people in the poorest areas, which were worst hit by the Covid pandemic, are not accessing help from the long Covid clinics.

The NHS has invested £125m in setting up clinics and providing better GP care for patients with lasting symptoms.

An NHS England spokesperson said: “The NHS is taking practical action to help patients suffering ongoing health issues as a result of coronavirus – bringing together experts and setting up 90 specialist clinics covering the whole country, as well as collecting and publishing data on the demographics of patients referred with long Covid to develop a greater understanding of this new condition.

originally posted by: Silcone Synapse

My biggest concern is that this is a clandestine act of war by China,and is a major part of their big push to become the dominat power on earth.

That would be illogical in biowarfare. In the early stages of Covid, it was those with blood type AB who were most likely to be put on ventilators and die. Those with blood type O were least likely to need hospitalization.

Asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 individuals with blood group AB at highest risk

China had the world's largest population of AB blood type. The Americas have the largest population of O blood type. It would be illogical for China to release a bioweapon that would kill off. those with type AB blood when China hosts the largest AB population.

What China did was refuse to ship masks and PPE. Most masks and PPE for hospitals is MADE IN CHINA. China stopped shipping all masks in January 2020. By February 2020, in stores, all masks were sold out and the backorders were backorder while China refused shipment of masks and PPE to the United States.

Fauci knew of this and did nothing to secure more masks and PPE to hospitals. Instead, Fauci LIED and claimed that "you can't catch Covid unless in close contact with a person from China who had ir."

Fauci denied that Covid was airborn in January, February, March and April 2020.

The shutdowns happened at the end of March 2020 when all hospitals ran out of masks and PPE and staff was forced to reuse dirty PPE and wear dirty PPE.

EVEN STILL FAUCI knew Covid was airborn and LIED. Fauci had 3 months to secure masks and PPE for the United States. He did not.

Instead, Fauci decided that only doctors in hospitals should get masks and PPE. Fauci decided that the lives of cops were expendable and told cops Jan-April 2020 that they did not need masks because Covid not airborn. Fauci decided that the lives of firefighters were expendable. So even in March and April 2020, firefighters and EMTs were told they did not need masks because Covid was not airborn.

Fauci decided that the lives of the military were expendable. Fauci told the military that they did not need masks all throughout Jan, Feb, Mar, April 2020. The military was told they did not need masks and couldn't catch Covid because allegedly it was not airborn.

Yet, Fauci knew it was airborn. He had to have known at the very latest in February 2020, when the mask/PPE shortage began. Fauci didn't want cops, firefighters, EMTs, soldiers to have the masks. He wanted only his fellow doctors to have the last remaining masks Feb-April 2020.

The lives of everyone else was expendable to Fauci, so that only doctors in hospitals got the dwindling supply of masks after China quit shipping.

Fauci did not want the military, cops, firefighters or any private citizen to seize the remaining masks. So Fauci lied for months and said Covid was not airborn

That's why the shut downs happened.

The lockdown was simply to get people scared enough to take the vax. Here in Ontario people are absolutely terrified Doug Ford will lock down again. So they took vax.