COVID hasn’t worked well enough - weaponize it now?

Here’s a thought...

Let’s assume COVID wasn’t a biological weapon... rather, it naturally evolved in some humans in China, or transmitted from another form of life, or was a slightly modified version of an existing illness that escaped a research facility by accident. In any of those cases, nothing intentionally nefarious occurred...

However, this fortuitous event, from the left’s perspective, did present an opportunity that fit a general “blind spot” for the US and Trump administration - Pandemic Preparedness - despite the Obama admin creating a “playbook”:

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McConnell refuted such a playbook existed:

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So if that playbook didn’t exist, as McConnell suggests, then someone caught the Trump admin with their pants down and knew they could exploit this weakness.

Problem is, it now isn’t working well enough. Not enough people are dying, the number of people who are losing their S due to lock downs and living Groundhog Day in real life are increasing - and none of that bodes well for the agenda they’re seeking to deploy... “Pandemic Fatigue” and such...

To keep the COVID narrative alive, COVID - or something COVID related/similar to COVID - is going to have to get worse or happen.

As an example, www.oregonlive.com... has a page dedicated to COVID cases in Oregon. I have given them credit for this page before and frankly I credit OregonLive for the reason OR has “faired much better than other states” with the pandemic - OregonLive filed information requests very early on the pandemic... which they continue to update - they unintentionally created a problem by reporting the real data.

BUT, when case numbers fall, you will not find any COVID information to speak of on the OregonLive home page. Not a word about cases improving. Nothing. Instead, you go here to find the daily reporting:

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Which leads to today’s “update”:

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That link, posted about 4 hours ago, shows that new cases are falling materially in OR. This is barely acknowledged in the article - and even explained away:

The Oregon Health Authority on Monday reported 865 new confirmed or presumptive coronavirus cases and six more deaths.
The numbers represent a continuing trend of fewer reported cases and fatalities over the last several days, but the state’s data often lags during weekends and around holidays so may not be reflective of the actual state of the pandemic in Oregon.

Clearly, cases falling must have some OTHER explanation than the cases are falling...

Biden consistently says “the worst days are in front of us”, despite a vaccine now being (poorly) distributed, the sun slowly making it’s way back to the northern hemisphere and bringing with it chest infection healing vitamin D, mask mandates all over, many business now closed for months or longer, untold numbers of restrictions placed on business who are operating, kids out of school for a year, parents losing their minds, etc.

None of that is bad enough. We haven’t seen the major sweeping changes like the post 9/11 world with the massive expansion of three letter agencies and a permanent change to your ideals of privacy...

This has to continue and it has to get worse if they’re really going to push their agenda forward.

So... how could the left weaponize COVID to push the economic agenda they want once they have a POTUS in place who can work with the CDC, Health Department, form a new COVID task force, etc. and control the narrative, flow of information, data and everything else?

How do they weaponize it? Is it possible to release the virus into various communities on a targeted basis? What’s the delivery mechanism? It’s not like you have smoke machine filling the air of places that are open. But, perhaps they tipped their hand...

Remember comments about grocery stores being one of the most dangerous places for COVID 19 contraction? That’s been said a bunch of times, in a bunch of places. Makes sense - people need food, they’re still open, etc. It seems like the best place to release the virus.

No need to make the virus “worse” as someone would figure out it got modified. You need more people to contract it - which will lead to more deaths and justify stricter measures.

So how could they intentionally “spread” more of the virus in a targeted way that wouldn’t be easily detected with the aim of “extending” our current state to give the left enough time to enact their “Great Reset” plans?

There was a case of a woman who “mysteriously” got COVID 3 weeks AFTER her last trip out of the house and - while we can’t seem to figure out contract tracing to save our lives - they managed to trace her case back to a FREAKING KEYPAD AT A PHARMACY. You can’t tell me where thousands of cases come from in many states but this woman’s specific case can literally be traced to a keypad? Sorry, not buying it.

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So how could we, regular people, figure this out? Maybe it does live on surfaces? Can it live in in something that we consume for an extended period of time? Refrigerated foods? Hot foods? Lunch meat? Organic produce? Low-cost foods? Other medications that are given to the elderly or those with “pre-existing conditions”? Water supply? Would it have the same impact if ingested as opposed to inhaled? How could they seed the air without people knowing it?

I don’t know, but these are interesting questions to ask, for me.

Spreading the virus intentionally would basically be the equivalent of saying it’s OK to go back to normal life, cancel masks/precautions and let humans get on with the business of spreading the virus at a potentially high rate through normal interactions - but that’s not tenable as I think you’d have real serious problems if you locked down again - this only gets to happen once or the pitch forks will absolutely come out.

So... they have to extend the duration of the current condition for many more months.... and they have to do it themselves... and they have to do it relatively quickly as the sun is coming back and with it comes the end of cold and flu season...but how?

Cases have dropped off pretty sharply here too, but that could be because of Christmas and the lack of people going in to get tested.

I suspect we'll know better in a couple more days. This is a solid work week, so I would expect the results from today to show up by Thursday/Friday at the latest. And since COVID has an average incubation of 2 to 5 days, that data should also be showing the beginnings of any Christmas spike too if we're going to have one.

Biden consistently says “the worst days are in front of us”, despite a vaccine now being (poorly) distributed, the sun slowly making it’s way back to the northern hemisphere and bringing with it chest infection healing vitamin D, mask mandates all over, many business now closed for months or longer, untold numbers of restrictions placed on business who are operating, kids out of school for a year, parents losing their minds, etc.


Biden is NOT a positive thinker and it will be a reflection on the American people how they think.
Trump is a positive thinker and got people to think positive and get off their butts and go to work.

Suppose it is designed to spread slowly with the expectation that it would hobble societies without destroying them outright? Just to sort of run things down rather than break them.

If, for example, it was a Chinese weapon, it might be geared to hit the Adversary in such a way that things are quietly shut down and the economy crippled over a number of years, rather than being a crude smash-and-grab.

The Chinese water torture, for example, slowly and excruciatingly drove it's victims mad and broke their souls. Anyone can lop off a head; it takes real art to slowly cripple with plausible deniability. Gives them time to extract maximum value from dying markets too.

Just a thought.

I'm not past all of this being the flu backed with a name and a test that gives false positives combined with financial incentives to claim cases.

a reply to: Mandroid7

I think it's not much worse than the flu for most people to be honest but I dont think it's a "scam". I think the policy overshoot is a result of panic and stupidity by the government and public health system. They just freaked out and treated it like the black Plague because "what if" and a million bureaucrats thinking, "I don't want to be blamed if this thing blows up. Shutting everyone down is less risky for my job as a decision-maker." Unfortunately their schemes of public health control do not take into account the massive social and economic deviststion of prolonged shutdown and restriction.

originally posted by: musicismagic

Biden is NOT a positive thinker and it will be a reflection on the American people how they think.
Trump is a positive thinker and got people to think positive and get off their butts and go to work.

can you remind me which of those 2 idiots was POTUS during 2020?

a reply to: Never Despise

My biggest concern is doctors being shutdown for questioning the tests..and there are plenty.
study

The whole "pandic" which it isn't is based off of these tests.
Even the symptoms are common flu symptoms.

They never stopped working on a better version. It's likely that any new variant they "discover" has escaped from one of these fast track bio-labs working on a vaccine. Otherwise they are gathering data for improvements on the original that escaped last year. The newer models will actually work as advertised once they tweak it.

a reply to: EnigmaChaser

Are you saying China has attacked us with a biological warfare first strike?
If your are, I will agree with you 100%. We are at war with China. Will it turn hot? A shooting war? Not if Biden enters the White House. He will be their slave at the very top of our government. Goodby democracy.

originally posted by: Never Despise
Suppose it is designed to spread slowly with the expectation that it would hobble societies without destroying them outright? Just to sort of run things down rather than break them.

If, for example, it was a Chinese weapon, it might be geared to hit the Adversary in such a way that things are quietly shut down and the economy crippled over a number of years, rather than being a crude smash-and-grab.

The Chinese water torture, for example, slowly and excruciatingly drove it's victims mad and broke their souls. Anyone can lop off a head; it takes real art to slowly cripple with plausible deniability. Gives them time to extract maximum value from dying markets too.

Just a thought.

I like this train of thought a lot for several reasons. The Chinese do have a preference for nuance at times - something we in the US aren’t as good at.

That said, I personally don’t think China dropped this on the world intentionally. I get the reasons it makes sense and those arguments are compelling but it’s just too risky.

Even if China said, “You know what? F it. We need to kill off these old people anyway - let it loose and we’ll save some money and strengthen the gene pool in one shot.” - which is something i could see China doing when taking their overall situation into account - but if that goes wrong you tank yourself. Hugely risky.

Interestingly, the Chinese aren’t super interested in flu shots:

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Kind of odd given the US fixation on said annual poke. I also can’t find any information that shows China mandating any one annual vaccine for much of anything. This matters as if you are going to unleash something like this on your population you need to have the antidote and possibly put that into the system before you release the real deal.

It’s doable, but just too risky, IMO. I do buy that it came out of China, however.

originally posted by: CharlesT
a reply to: EnigmaChaser

Are you saying China has attacked us with a biological warfare first strike?
If your are, I will agree with you 100%. We are at war with China. Will it turn hot? A shooting war? Not if Biden enters the White House. He will be their slave at the very top of our government. Goodby democracy.

Like i said, i wouldn’t put it past them in the least but I don’t think it was a first strike.

In a way, COVID may have stopped a war between the US and China that escalates beyond what things are today. It could just have easily been a defensive measure on either of our parts - but i’d say most likely on China’s.

Trump was very anti-China and more outspoken about it than any recent president.

He didn’t start any wars in his first time but did start another branch of the armed services and managed to pull us out of some “bad deals” that takes money out of our war chest.

When I think about it this way, i suspect he might have been planning to start a hot war with China in his second term.

Space force is now just posturing at that point - it implies we’ve now weaponized space. Show of strength.

A true war with China would be far, far more devastating to the global economy/stability/status quo than COVID. And, when it comes down to it, neither country truly benefits from that conflict.

If I assume there’s a “World Order”, which I think likely exists in some form or fashion, then China is an experiment for them - it’s the future. It’s an experiment to see what the balance is supposed to be between free markets and centrally planned governments and social structures at massive scale. Logic being if you can do it at over a billion people you could scale up those processes over 8bn people.

Thus China can’t be attacked, economically crippled or hindered in any way that’s truly meaningful - they need the learning. And Trump probably would have tried something.

So maybe we got to Netflicks and Chill for a year instead of full blown war... who knows.

consider how few victims of the disease there are in China versus everywhere else. In fact, the numbers across the board are low in Asia.

What if it is genetically engineered to affect non-Asians or Non-Chinese DNA Haplotypes more easily?

Here in Spain, everyone who refuse the vaccine ends up in a registration that will be share with other European countries.

a reply to: EnigmaChaser

I think it is naive to assume that Covid 19 has been manufactured by only one country and effected all of us at once...I also guess that all elites of the world and potentially the whole universe have been involved in one of the most adventurous ethnic cleansing of all times...their goal is to make the world less populated,more refined and tame enough so they can continue their legacy for centuries to come and pass it on to their grand children without the fear of social resistance and unrest which can intrupt their slavery system and cash flow...From now on people line up twice a year to be injected by the magic liquid and will be so happy to have a job that pays their dues and lets them to eat out every once in a while and spend their hard earned money on crap made by the companies owned by the elites...So cheers and have a good life.

Something I picked up on watching CBS morning show, when a State has a supposed spike, the news groups go after it in a “overhyped fear” piece that talks about those infected, those that died and the hospitals will be over run. Today it was California.

California lately had a few residents speak out about the draconian lock down rules.

Is the media attack on California orchestrated to make the citizens afraid and compliant so they don’t speak out against lockdowns? The majority will shame anyone who speaks out?

Just seeing a trend of media assault that is slow and determined

a reply to: wdkirk

California does have a spike going on, but the thing is that this thing will hit everywhere sooner or later. There will be a spike everywhere sooner or later because you can't stop it, only delay the inevitable.

California has been delaying like mad, but now the spike is there too.

Where I am at, the spike is just on its way down.

I think no matter what places did or didn't do, the disease pretty well did what it was going to do, so all the economic destruction was for naught. And history will write exactly that picture.

originally posted by: shapur
a reply to: EnigmaChaser

I think it is naive to assume that Covid 19 has been manufactured by only one country and effected all of us at once...I also guess that all elites of the world and potentially the whole universe have been involved in one of the most adventurous ethnic cleansing of all times...their goal is to make the world less populated,more refined and tame enough so they can continue their legacy for centuries to come and pass it on to their grand children without the fear of social resistance and unrest which can intrupt their slavery system and cash flow...From now on people line up twice a year to be injected by the magic liquid and will be so happy to have a job that pays their dues and lets them to eat out every once in a while and spend their hard earned money on crap made by the companies owned by the elites...So cheers and have a good life.

I don’t think any of this is without possibility.

But if this was “ethnic cleansing” they did a pretty crappy job of it.

Now, one point that doesn’t get talked about much is cost savings on a go-forward basis.

We’re talking about likely hundreds of billions of dollars this year along between wrath transference, no longer paying medical bills for the deceased, all ancillary businesses (attorneys/CPAs/FAs) settling estates - assets being reinvested... lots more.

And that amount of activity climbs.

If anything, the disease is killing off the GOP stronghold age groups - and transferring wealth to younger people who - in general - see the GOP as the backwards party of history.

That’s not good for the GOP until they change the presentation of their position.

a reply to: EnigmaChaser
Your a bit late. They've already hit us with "even though you've had it, you can catch it again" or the new go to " the virus has mutated and we have a new variant about to run rampant". Plus the biggie "we think the vaccine will only work for a few months".

a reply to: EnigmaChaser

i'm not a big fan of oregonlive.

i gravitate to KGW or KOIN6 but even those two are sketchy sometimes.