Ivermectin

Like many here, I have seen the video claiming Ivermectin is a wonder drug against covid-19.
I have been familiar with this product for 30 years in that I have used it on my dogs, cats and cattle throughout the years.
Because I am fairly familiar with this product and I don't trust the government in the least any more, I decided to try to find some Ivermectin in tablet form so I stopped by my local farm and ranch supply yesterday to see if I could find some there.
I couldn't find any tablets and the only form of this drug I did find was the pour on Ivermectin and also in a paste form for internal use. I bought a tube of paste Ivermectin and am going to start taking just small smears for the next couple of days and hope it doesn't kill me.
It's horse wormer to beat Covid-19.

Fluck their untested vaccines.

$4.00 for a tube to treat a 1200 lb. horse. Just a little dab will do me. Maybe a pennies worth at a time.

It doesn't taste too awfully bad.

I wouldn't know how to dose it on a human, but evidently they have used it on humans occasionally over the years.

a reply to: rickymouse

I haven't done any research but I think the tablets for human consumption can be purchased.

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Ivermectin

Last Updated: August 27, 2020

Ivermectin is a Food and Drug Administration (FDA)-approved antiparasitic drug that is used to treat several neglected tropical diseases, including onchocerciasis, helminthiases, and scabies.1 It is also being evaluated for its potential to reduce the rate of malaria transmission by killing mosquitoes that feed on treated humans and livestock.2 For these indications, ivermectin has been widely used and has demonstrated an excellent safety profile.1
Proposed Mechanism of Action and Rationale for Use in Patients With COVID-19

Ivermectin acts by inhibiting the host importin alpha/beta-1 nuclear transport proteins, which are part of a key intracellular transport process that viruses hijack to enhance infection by suppressing the host antiviral response.3 Ivermectin is therefore a host-directed agent, which is likely the basis for its broad-spectrum activity in vitro against the viruses that cause dengue, Zika, HIV, and yellow fever.3-6
Recommendation

The COVID-19 Treatment Guidelines Panel recommends against the use of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19, except in a clinical trial (A

As I have already stated, fluck what the government says.

a reply to: CharlesT

Maybe it’s because you lost your sense of taste to Covid.

So because it works in a direct application controlled experiment using one cell type, of course naturally it will work in an entire organism through the oral route.

I honestly can’t tell if this is a joke or not but it should be a joint decision with a medical professional. If it’s serious I wish you the best. I doubt it’s intended for long term use in humans, although it is approved for a number of internal and external parasites.

I don't have covid and never have.

As far as overdose is concerned, a gallon of the stuff can be poured on a large animal and it won't kill it.

a reply to: CharlesT

Ok, so it’s safe for use against parasites, nothing about Covid, what about dosage? You are basically calculating by smears and I imagine a med for a horse would be concentrated, but I don’t know the size of the tube.

People OD on meds all the time and usually they tell a medical person they only took a little bit and meanwhile they’re showing symptoms of toxicity.

Early research is showing that the drug does show promise, but there could be many variables that we don’t know about in a whole organism. Plus genetic issues, underlying conditions, undiagnosed medical problems that could make it be an issue. Just be careful is all and I’ll leave it at that.

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IVERMECTIN (eye ver MEK tin) is an anti-infective. It is used to treat infections of some parasites.

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a reply to: TheAMEDDDoc

I'll let you know if it kills me.

a reply to: rickymouse

The tube, or actually, the syringe is set in gradients of 250 lbs. each setting.

a reply to: CharlesT

A good friend of mine is an ER doctor - - I went on a golf trip with him in early October. So naturally in the car ride I asked him about all kinds of ER stories and what he thought about Covid and treatment. He said that if anybody comes into the ER with even the mildest of symptoms that could fall under the Covid umbrella he prescribed them Ivermectin. That was his go to drug for treating Covid.

I'm pretty sure there are studies showing how effective it is in treating Covid from a few months back. I'd have to dig to find those studies. Its safer than tylenol and aspirin.

Problem is that it's cheap, so the pharmaceutical monopolies aren't going to get rich off of it.

Found studies - Ivermectin Studies

originally posted by: CharlesT
a reply to: TheAMEDDDoc

I'll let you know if it kills me.

That will have to come under the paranormal thread if you do let him know that it killed you.

originally posted by: CharlesT
a reply to: rickymouse

I haven't done any research but I think the tablets for human consumption can be purchased.

www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov...
Ivermectin

Last Updated: August 27, 2020

Ivermectin is a Food and Drug Administration (FDA)-approved antiparasitic drug that is used to treat several neglected tropical diseases, including onchocerciasis, helminthiases, and scabies.1 It is also being evaluated for its potential to reduce the rate of malaria transmission by killing mosquitoes that feed on treated humans and livestock.2 For these indications, ivermectin has been widely used and has demonstrated an excellent safety profile.1
Proposed Mechanism of Action and Rationale for Use in Patients With COVID-19

Ivermectin acts by inhibiting the host importin alpha/beta-1 nuclear transport proteins, which are part of a key intracellular transport process that viruses hijack to enhance infection by suppressing the host antiviral response.3 Ivermectin is therefore a host-directed agent, which is likely the basis for its broad-spectrum activity in vitro against the viruses that cause dengue, Zika, HIV, and yellow fever.3-6
Recommendation

The COVID-19 Treatment Guidelines Panel recommends against the use of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19, except in a clinical trial (A

As I have already stated, fluck what the government says.

It sucks that I understand the method of action of the medicine so easily. I need to start fishing again instead of researching meds and food chemistry.

a reply to: TheAMEDDDoc

Watch the video then ask yourself if this is a joke

a reply to: rickymouse

Lol I’m sure everything will be fine, I just couldn’t read that and not say anything. Animal meds are sometimes made differently than those for human consumption and they could contain ingredients or concentrations of Ivermectin that may be dangerous. Or if you calculate wrong with kg and lbs.

The good news is a bunch of blinded studies from over the summer are starting to publish with varying patients, including a couple prophylactic studies. Ivermectin will most likely work in some form, it’s just getting the dose and timing correct.

a reply to: underpass61

Look, I’m not questioning ivermectin, I’m questioning using a medication developed for a horse in a human. There are variables that a healthcare provider can analyze to ensure it is safe is all and that could depend on the patient.

Uh-oh, I feel something moving around in my stomach.

I've gotta go take a dump.

originally posted by: TheAMEDDDoc
a reply to: rickymouse

Lol I’m sure everything will be fine, I just couldn’t read that and not say anything. Animal meds are sometimes made differently than those for human consumption and they could contain ingredients or concentrations of Ivermectin that may be dangerous. Or if you calculate wrong with kg and lbs.

The good news is a bunch of blinded studies from over the summer are starting to publish with varying patients, including a couple prophylactic studies. Ivermectin will most likely work in some form, it’s just getting the dose and timing correct.

I was giving a little of some leftover augmentin to our cat for his overreaction to allergins. It was the clavinate or the chemistry used to stop overreaction of the immune system that was helping. A tiny sprinkle in his milk worked fairly good. So we went to the vet and she prescribed us the clavamoxin long term. It is a bigger pill than the other pill, and it was not working with a little sprinkle because it was only a two fifty verses the six fifty/two fifty in the ones we had. So I boosted the amount and he did not initially like the flavor of what they put into it and wouldn't drink the milk....after getting really bad, he started drinking it and is doing fine. Also I read up on Duralactin and it is made with grassmilk that is powdered, and we get grassmilk sometimes otherwise we get regular organic milk and his condition got better and worse irregularly. We switched to all grassmilk, it is a lot less inflammatory according to the research I did, and he is doing pretty good. Added a sprinkle of L-lysine in the milk now too, that also helps. For a blind cat he sure gets into trouble when he is feeling good, he is up on the table, can't see the edge and falls off occasionally, climbing on everything and is constantly mewing for help to get down now. I have been contemplating splitting the difference, a little sick but not to sick would be a lot better for us...he might break something when he falls off of high stuff and it could cost us a lot at the vets.

originally posted by: CharlesT
Uh-oh, I feel something moving around in my stomach.

I've gotta go take a dump.

You won't have that nice worm feeling in your tummy anymore, I am sure that parasites excrete chemicals that make us dumb and not feel their presence.

a reply to: rickymouse

That’s really cool, I wish western medicine incorporated stuff like this more in humans lol. I’m glad that your vet agreed and your little buddy is doing better. I’ve done similar stuff with my kids when they’re sick. Benadryl is a perfect example and it can be used for nausea, plus it helps them sleep. Zofran can be challenging to keep around at times.

Another example is with my son, he has autism, epilepsy and autoimmune encephalitis or maybe any combination of the 3. Something to realize, low serotonin is common in these group along with something called long term potentiation when the neurons can’t really relax. He can’t sleep well and is extremely hyper. We added a second med to his regimen that should calm him but it didn’t, then we added an SNRI to balance him and that helped a little but he was still out of balance and not sleeping and stressed. So we did some research and started supplementing with melatonin, valerian and a few other things like ashwagandha, theanine etc. with some stuff that will break down into ions to act on GABA and increase his serotonin levels and he’s doing much better. Not as stressed, better sleep, no more depression and it worked out well for him. Neurologist loved it too and approved after the fact.

The problem is lobbying and government interference in cheap alternatives when these pharmaceutical companies decide that their brand new drug is the best and they have to pay for all that research. There really needs to be more transparency and less interference to uphold standards of scientific integrity.

a reply to: TheAMEDDDoc

Our cat is blind as a bat, born that way. We got the cat from my granddaughter who can't keep him with the kids because he would get outside on the street and he could never find his way home. If he gets stressed he cannot think right and bangs into things hard. She brought him to the vet and got some sort of time delay shot similar to benedryl and he could not think right and was banging into things and getting lost all the time. I tried a tad of benedryl and the same thing happened. so I won't let them give him meds like that, he needs clear senses so he doesn't get hurt bad. I think he uses some sort of echo location or something, I guess cats can use that just like people can be trained to maneuver in no light blindfolded. But it does not work well when he is sneezing or he is doped up.

Did you try taurine on your kid? It has some pretty decent neuroregulation chemistry. I tried a lot of different supplements for my epilepsy, and the best one was Hemp CBD oil tablets. but like pot it destroyed my initiative to learn new things. Second best is Taurine, just one five hundred mg tablet a day cuts my TLE risk way down. Gives me more of a break from using certain food chemistries, but so far has not been able to stop the cramping and locking down of certain muscles in my arm leg and back completely even if I take one in the AM and one in the PM. Magnesium made the cramps worse when I tried that for a week, causing a lockup that broke a blood vessel and caused a big bruise. Not doing that again. I am not saying that Red Bull or energy drinks will work, they would probably make it worse. I did a lot of reading of research on taurine before I started taking it, skeptical because so many people said Red Bull is bad for you. Taurine needs sulfite oxidase to work right, if a deficiency of that exists it could cause a lot of various problems like what you are talking about. A lack of the enzyme or deficiency in the molybdenum coenzyme that makes it could cause all sorts of neuromodulation problems. All the taurine in the world won't help someone with a sulfite oxidase deficiency.