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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
originally posted by: rounda
Just keep pushing the “no credible evidence” line.
There have been lawsuits by EVERY party, Democrat and third party included, since there was even talk about using these machines for the election process.
You can deny it all you want, it just shows everyone where you stand.
Sure, and where did the 'wide spread fraud' cases go besides in the toilet?
You don’t have to say a damn word about Kamala for us to know you’re a supporter.
Sure. How many times did you vote for Biden? You seem to be a big Biden guy.
originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
originally posted by: rounda
Just keep totin that line.
You mean the reality? State courts, Federal courts and the Supreme Court all tossed these suits. Not one made it through.
originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
originally posted by: rounda
On bull# technicalities, not merit.
Yeah, you may want to read up on that, plenty were tossed as being meritless.
originally posted by: KansasGirl
a reply to: Doctor Smith
Follow the science. Right? How can prove-able mathematic data be untrue, because the source is a “rag site?”
originally posted by: Jimy718
originally posted by: KansasGirl
a reply to: Doctor Smith
Follow the science. Right? How can prove-able mathematic data be untrue, because the source is a “rag site?”
Retired software engineer here;
I've been holding my tongue on this for a while...
There are NO statistical methods that can be applied! They are nearly all doomed to failure, for one very important reason.
No one has reviewed, or analyzed, the original source code for the Dominion Systems. Until that has been done; you will not know what the machines were actually doing. And, there is NO OTHER way.
All that these "forensic audits" can do is look at system logs and try to divine what the machine was doing...that doesn't really work out very well much of the time (when true exceptions are thrown, then logs are useful). Logs do not show system operation, just exceptions and system performance.
originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: Doctor Smith
They are all from rag sites, that are extremely bias and have a poor record of reporting facts.
originally posted by: PurpleFox
a reply to: Jimy718
In your opinion, why do you think a judge would block access of the source code to the public?
If that's all it takes to prove or disprove this and all.
originally posted by: AfterPaid
originally posted by: Gryphon66
originally posted by: AfterPaid
a reply to: AaarghZombies
Trust me, liberal media is everywhere, and swallowing the narrative, hook, line and sinker.
It's bad enough that it stinks that people in the US refuse to open their eyes, but when it's other places, it's a kick in the guts. Blind followers, who should know better... but tds is global, so it appears.
The only blind followers I see are the ones absolutely denying reality.
There is no fraud and that has been documented in numerous court hearings. Guiliani and other Trump members have admitted in court under oath that there is no fraud.
I agree. No corruption at all. We've been told that. No one bothers to look at the evidence, just dismiss it. So therefore no fraud.
In other news, the covid vaccine is 100% safe, everyone who said so, said so.
originally posted by: PurpleFox
a reply to: Jimy718
In your opinion, why do you think a judge would block access of the source code to the public?
If that's all it takes to prove or disprove this and all.
originally posted by: Willtell
The claim doesn't hold up under scrutiny:
Even if there were errors then both sides would be subject to them.
Read the source article at Detroit Free press
www.detroitnews.com...
Antrim County, which is reliably Republican, has been in the spotlight because its initial results on election night showed Biden ahead of Trump by thousands of votes. Election officials later determined there were problems in the reporting of the results, and Trump ended up winning the county by more than 3,700 votes.
"If the Trump campaign had any actual evidence of wrongdoing – or genuine suspicion thereof – they could have requested a hand recount of every ballot in the state," Benson said in a Monday statement. "They did not, instead choosing to allow shadowy organizations claiming expertise to throw around baseless claims of fraud in an effort to mislead American voters and undermine the integrity of the election."
But Trump, who lost Michigan by 154,000 votes, tweeted that the report showed "massive fraud." The report came from an organization called Allied Security Operations Group, which has previously made false claims about Michigan's election.
The group previously claimed there were six precincts with more than 120% turnout in the state's election. But its data was incorrect, according to publicly available turnout numbers.
Here is this obscure group that is supposed to have made this report.
They don’t amount to much
asog.us...
The new report alleges that Dominion Voting Systems, the election technology used by Antrim County and elsewhere, "is intentionally and purposefully designed with inherent errors to create systemic fraud and influence election results." It's unclear how Allied Security Operations Group (ASOG) reached this conclusion, however.
Likewise, the report, authored by Russell James Ramsland, Jr., who is part of ASOG's management team, says the group found an "error rate" of 68% when examining "the tabulation log" of the server for Antrim County. It's also unclear what the "error rate" data refers to specifically and how it impacts the results.
There will be ongoing bogus claims like this as we go along.
This one is easily refuted. I won't even bother to look at these distorted claims in the future.
originally posted by: Willtell
The claim doesn't hold up under scrutiny:
Even if there were errors then both sides would be subject to them.
Read the source article at Detroit Free press
www.detroitnews.com...
Antrim County, which is reliably Republican, has been in the spotlight because its initial results on election night showed Biden ahead of Trump by thousands of votes. Election officials later determined there were problems in the reporting of the results, and Trump ended up winning the county by more than 3,700 votes.
"If the Trump campaign had any actual evidence of wrongdoing – or genuine suspicion thereof – they could have requested a hand recount of every ballot in the state," Benson said in a Monday statement. "They did not, instead choosing to allow shadowy organizations claiming expertise to throw around baseless claims of fraud in an effort to mislead American voters and undermine the integrity of the election."
But Trump, who lost Michigan by 154,000 votes, tweeted that the report showed "massive fraud." The report came from an organization called Allied Security Operations Group, which has previously made false claims about Michigan's election.
The group previously claimed there were six precincts with more than 120% turnout in the state's election. But its data was incorrect, according to publicly available turnout numbers.
Here is this obscure group that is supposed to have made this report.
They don’t amount to much
asog.us...
The new report alleges that Dominion Voting Systems, the election technology used by Antrim County and elsewhere, "is intentionally and purposefully designed with inherent errors to create systemic fraud and influence election results." It's unclear how Allied Security Operations Group (ASOG) reached this conclusion, however.
Likewise, the report, authored by Russell James Ramsland, Jr., who is part of ASOG's management team, says the group found an "error rate" of 68% when examining "the tabulation log" of the server for Antrim County. It's also unclear what the "error rate" data refers to specifically and how it impacts the results.
There will be ongoing bogus claims like this as we go along.
This one is easily refuted. I won't even bother to look at these distorted claims in the future.
originally posted by: Willtell
The claim doesn't hold up under scrutiny:
Even if there were errors then both sides would be subject to them.
Read the source article at Detroit Free press
www.detroitnews.com...
Antrim County, which is reliably Republican, has been in the spotlight because its initial results on election night showed Biden ahead of Trump by thousands of votes. Election officials later determined there were problems in the reporting of the results, and Trump ended up winning the county by more than 3,700 votes.
"If the Trump campaign had any actual evidence of wrongdoing – or genuine suspicion thereof – they could have requested a hand recount of every ballot in the state," Benson said in a Monday statement. "They did not, instead choosing to allow shadowy organizations claiming expertise to throw around baseless claims of fraud in an effort to mislead American voters and undermine the integrity of the election."
But Trump, who lost Michigan by 154,000 votes, tweeted that the report showed "massive fraud." The report came from an organization called Allied Security Operations Group, which has previously made false claims about Michigan's election.
The group previously claimed there were six precincts with more than 120% turnout in the state's election. But its data was incorrect, according to publicly available turnout numbers.
Here is this obscure group that is supposed to have made this report.
They don’t amount to much
asog.us...
The new report alleges that Dominion Voting Systems, the election technology used by Antrim County and elsewhere, "is intentionally and purposefully designed with inherent errors to create systemic fraud and influence election results." It's unclear how Allied Security Operations Group (ASOG) reached this conclusion, however.
Likewise, the report, authored by Russell James Ramsland, Jr., who is part of ASOG's management team, says the group found an "error rate" of 68% when examining "the tabulation log" of the server for Antrim County. It's also unclear what the "error rate" data refers to specifically and how it impacts the results.
There will be ongoing bogus claims like this as we go along.
This one is easily refuted. I won't even bother to look at these distorted claims in the future.