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Its apparently official....US Cities are dying!

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posted on Dec, 15 2020 @ 08:35 AM
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I dont post very often anymore, but when I saw this I just had to share it.

thehill.com...



This is the year that officially ended the boom of cities that started in the 1990s. The mirage of cities buffeted by white-collar jobs and supported by wealthy citizens willing to take on just one more tax increase is officially kaput. It is easy to blame the deluge on the coronavirus, but in reality a unique combination of factors heralded the end of the growth in places like New York while introducing population booms in medium-sized cities and suburbs across specific regions of the country. Significant populations of each social class decided it was no longer worth living in major metropolitan areas.


City statistics are cited in the article. In a way, I guess this isnt surprising. COVID seems to have accelerated the trend. Closures have been an attendant affect and have accelerated the movement along with ever higher taxes.

I see this as something of a mixed blessing. We have noticed an increase of people moving in from cities in Texas and this is an extremely remote area of Texas. We have even encountered a couple from California that recently moved to the area.

There may well be adverse political effects for the rural areas that will see the newcomers vote for the same high tax agendas they are fleeing from. Apparently I am not the only one who fears that effect.

From the "About the Author" section of the article:


Kristin Tate is a libertarian author and an analyst for Young Americans for Liberty. She is a Robert Novak journalism fellow at the Fund for American Studies. Her newest book is “The Liberal Invasion of Red State America.”


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posted on Dec, 15 2020 @ 08:39 AM
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Maybe they'll live in small towns enough for it to sink in why those areas are conservative like they are. We can hope. There is often a reason for it, and it has to do with the way of life. Leftists policies just plain are unworkable in rural parts. For example, electric cars just aren't practical. Guns are actual necessary tools of rural life. I could go on.



posted on Dec, 15 2020 @ 08:44 AM
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If at first you don’t secede,
try try again.

# 1293



posted on Dec, 15 2020 @ 08:48 AM
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a reply to: TonyS

I'd be curious to ask some of them why they moved. If they say high taxes, or high crime, then continue down that road and ask why they feel taxes or crime are high. Some people may simply be cashing out due to property appreciation, and some are probably fleeing from issues and problems they may have contributed due to their voting habits.


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posted on Dec, 15 2020 @ 08:49 AM
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originally posted by: TonyS It is easy to blame the deluge on the coronavirus


it certainly is, because it's true. the scamdemic is killing society.



posted on Dec, 15 2020 @ 08:50 AM
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There may well be adverse political effects for the rural areas that will see the newcomers vote for the same high tax agendas they are fleeing from.



yes,there most certainly will. same thing happened in panhandle of Florida, snow birds and retired service came down because they like how nice it was weather wise and people wise. but when they get here they want to make it just like home.

just wait till they start running for county offices, then you'll really be screwed.

we were better off when they thought we were just dumb rednecks.
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posted on Dec, 15 2020 @ 08:51 AM
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originally posted by: RoScoLaz5
it certainly is, because it's true. the scamdemic is killing society.


I live about 10 miles outside Manhattan, the influx of families moving here from NYC is due to the shutdowns. We've gotten 6 new neighbors in the past couple months and each have said they needed to move somewhere where they could go outdoors comfortably. Anecdotal, but that's what I'm seeing.



posted on Dec, 15 2020 @ 08:51 AM
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You could be right.....they may adapt. Life out here isnt easy and I am interested to see how long they last. Practically everything is difficult out here at least. We have had to find numerous ways to adapt and one of the most difficult things to do is to acclimate to the allergens. Its taken me nearly 7 years to get to the point where I am not rendered useless because of the allergy problems.

As for their political impact, I think it will be slow in coming. Local Texas politics is peculiarly insular. If your family didnt settle here in the 1800's, you are forever an outsider and have no chance of running for office of any type.

Time will tell.


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posted on Dec, 15 2020 @ 08:55 AM
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a reply to: ketsuko

The zombie infection will spread: crime, drugs, litter, crippling taxation to support useless projects like scrap metal “art” leaving permanent rust stains on the sidewalks...



posted on Dec, 15 2020 @ 08:56 AM
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It is definitely going to be a large social experiment.

I think it will take a long time for cities to recover. However, some people think the rural and smaller cities will be a flash in the pan as people used to living in large cities will find them boring.

However, I don't think people will come back to cities as quickly as some people because the lock downs will continue. It will be Covid 20 next year.... Covid 21 the year after. People aren't going to want to be around the unpredictability of city living anymore.



posted on Dec, 15 2020 @ 09:00 AM
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originally posted by: TonyS
a reply to: ketsuko

You could be right.....they may adapt. Life out here isnt easy and I am interested to see how long they last. Practically everything is difficult out here at least. We have had to find numerous ways to adapt and one of the most difficult things to do is to acclimate to the allergens. Its taken me nearly 7 years to get to the point where I am not rendered useless because of the allergy problems.

As for their political impact, I think it will be slow in coming. Local Texas politics is peculiarly insular. If your family didnt settle here in the 1800's, you are forever an outsider and have no chance of running for office of any type.

Time will tell.


This is one of the reasons some feel people will move back to cities. They will discover they have to drive 30 minutes to the grocery store, land up keep, wild animals, etc. They may find life a little harder even if it may be a slower pace than they are used to....



posted on Dec, 15 2020 @ 09:06 AM
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a reply to: Edumakated

I'm moving to just outside of a town of 7,000, so far from what I've seen of the town and surrounding areas it's beautiful, quiet, and abundant with outdoor things to do. My wife, who has lived in cities her entire life is a little less enthusiastic, however she is also loving the quiet. When we drive to check the progress on the house it's after 5, so it's pitch black by the time we get out that way, she loves the fact she can actually see the stars so clearly.

I can see most of these things being undesirable for a lot of city dwellers, there's no 24 hour pharmacy, you've got 2 grocery stores but neither of them are Whole Foods or Trader Joes. There's no Starbucks, very few fast casual dining options. There are no large shopping complexes, or any of the conveniences that most are used to. So I agree that most city dwellers will not fare well in rural America, as long as they're not there long enough to bring their failed policies with them, I'm fine with them experimenting.



posted on Dec, 15 2020 @ 09:12 AM
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This is one of the reasons some feel people will move back to cities. They will discover they have to drive 30 minutes to the grocery store, land up keep, wild animals, etc. They may find life a little harder even if it may be a slower pace than they are used to....


didn't work like that here, there was a 16 mile stretch of hwy here with no red lights, between one small city and another larger city. 20 mins tops between the two. only had a few continence stores, two hardware stores, two auto repair shops a few homes, and a couple of big cattle ranches.
one of them the owners got out and sold there land.

wal mart, was the first. now i can't count the number of chain stores, chain restaurants and Trendy shopping spots.
that same 16 mile stretch if you can get through takes 45 mins at best


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posted on Dec, 15 2020 @ 09:12 AM
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a reply to: TonyS

My biggest worry is when they leave the cities they bring their voting habits with them.

You don't like where you live so you move and try to change the new place into the place you left.



posted on Dec, 15 2020 @ 09:14 AM
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Can someone please inform Broward county of this so they stop building all the condos, warehouses and parking garages. They’re not building up as you can’t go any further West without building over the Everglades. I’m actually looking to bail the f*ck out of here because it’s gotten too big. It used to be spread out and never felt cramped, but the same streets I drove on 15-20 years ago now take twice as long to traverse due to traffic.

This is one thing that’s surprised me this whole time, new building construction has remained constant during the pandemic and more and more are popping up everyday. Downtown Ft. Lauderdale is getting CRAMPED. I don’t think I’d be as uptight about it if it were office buildings, but everything they’re all residential and they’re f*cking huge.



posted on Dec, 15 2020 @ 09:18 AM
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a reply to: Edumakated

They won't but the radicals are pushing for policies to make rural living as difficult as possible to force urbanizing on everyone.



posted on Dec, 15 2020 @ 09:19 AM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: TonyS

My biggest worry is when they leave the cities they bring their voting habits with them.

You don't like where you live so you move and try to change the new place into the place you left.


They blame the people without realizing *they* are the "the people" too.



posted on Dec, 15 2020 @ 09:19 AM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: RoScoLaz5
it certainly is, because it's true. the scamdemic is killing society.


We've gotten 6 new neighbors in the past couple months and each have said they needed to move somewhere where they could go outdoors comfortably.


Wait ,What? They actually moved next to you thinking they could go outdoors comfortably? Ha wait till they get a view of your naked outdoor yoga sessions.


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posted on Dec, 15 2020 @ 09:19 AM
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a reply to: TonyS

I think US cities transition as advancements in society change. Big cities used to be built around or near rail lines when trains were the main mode of transportation. Once automobiles became the focus freeways became the main mode of transportation. Now with remote capability there is another transition on the horizon.

On a side note, I also want to add that as America transitions to a more "service" oriented economy, cities will change from financial centers to more entertainment and service centers. Think shopping, hotels, performance venues, and convention centers
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posted on Dec, 15 2020 @ 09:20 AM
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originally posted by: interupt42
Wait ,What? They actually moved next to you thinking they could go outdoors comfortably? Ha wait till they get a view of your naked outdoor yoga sessions.


LOL, yeah, welcome to the neighborhood.

On the plus side my property value has skyrocketed due to the 'Vid.



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