Antrim County Michigan Forensics Report Released

Fulton County Georgia is staging a public event to demonstrate absentee ballot signature verification beginning on December 21, 2020.

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originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: Drucifer

THIS is different.

It certainly looks different. Staid layout, corporate-style fonts, went-to-college writing style.

Closer inspection, however, proves it another piece of partisan fake news. See Phage’s posts above.

Also, this.

And this

The Allied Security Operations Group is a cobbled-together gang that exists only to propagate this very lie.

Well that certainly puts a damper on things.

I think it’d be wise to have someone disputing the ASOG report to come out and clarify how it’s wrong. I totally understand skewing things to present one side of a situation, but who knows who to trust in this situation. Each side has got a lot to lose and have equal interest in wanting things to go their way.

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: DontTreadOnMe

I'm sorry. Just seems really dumb to release this now.

"Yea, about that fraud thing, I guess it's real and maybe we should have listened. Better luck next time."

Not too late. MI Trump electors met and did the deed.

A total of 7 States are sending dueling electors.

If enough evidence is out in the open to support it, Congress can either use the alternate set of electors for Trump, or just decide the whole election is tainted and do it themselves. Either way, Trump should win handily...

originally posted by: elementalgrove
This is what Sidney Powell, Rudy, and Lin have been shouting about.

How many machines could have this same issue.

ALL of them?

originally posted by: slatesteam
Man if only I could recall why 12/14/20 is significant with regards to this tumultuous and questionable election...

It is significant, yes, but not that significant. If you are thinking that just because the electors have met, it is ove... you would be very, laughably wrong.

This new evidence is far, far more significant, and will likely be the little snowball that ends up derailing this whole charade once it reaches the bottom of the hill.

originally posted by: vonclod
Interesting!

So, what now?

The alternate electors for Trump are used? Or, Congress trashed the whole election as flawed and does the deed themselves?

originally posted by: slatesteam
a reply to: CIAGypsy

Why not treason? I’m not sure how that crime works, but it seems like US election tampering or corruption should fall under that consequence too maybe?

No this would be either sedition or insurrection...

Alas, the penalties are not death, only 10 years in prison and they can never hold public office again.

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: DontTreadOnMe

Am I missing something?

Trump got more votes after the 'flip'. It's in the report.

Try again - he got more votes after the flip was reversed.

originally posted by: CIAGypsy
Btw, I reached out to several Republican members of congress in both the House and Senate and asked WHY they are not doing forensics on Dominion machines in Republican states such as Florida, Tennessee, Alaska, Nebraska, Iowa, etc...which might corroborate the fraud that was seen in swing states? Powell had mentioned weeks ago that the Dominion software was likely changing votes across all states where it was used. Why are Republicans not gathering this evidence with the support of Congress personnel in those states to validate those beliefs?

I agree this should absolutely be done, everywhere.

The point is, you have to start somewhere. Now that the real, direty, criminal facts have been established, and Sidney has been proven to not, in fact, be a looney tune, I expect to see massive calls for this very thing.

Prep yourself - California will turn red if this happens there.

originally posted by: jrod
You do realize most cases of voting fraud in recent times were carried out by Republicans?

By all means, every single State that used any of the machines from Dominion or any other nmachine that licenses SmartMatic software should undergo a full forensic audit even more deeply than the one just done in Antrim County.

Every. Single. One.

Let the chips fall where they may.

originally posted by: DontTreadOnMe
Dominion was used in the other states with questionable results. The way to turn the election was to run this compromised system in Democratic strongholds, places where there would be a lot of Biden votes anyway.
If they did this in hard red areas, it would be obvious fraud, even to CNN.

Exactly, and this is precisely why this was discovered in Antrim County - because it has always been a heavily red state, and the elections managers noticed it, and took a look.

Thankfully. They should be congratulated!

originally posted by: chr0naut
For instance, in 81% of swing state counties where Dominion machines were used, the vote went to Trump. If the Democrats were cheating, it was to give votes to Trump, based upon actual results.

-sigh-

Apparently you don't understand... much of anything...

Each machine can be manipulated independently.

There were two primary methods for the cheating in these big, heavily democrat counties, was through the adjudication process. First is the adjudication process - 68% error rate allows the adjudicators, who handle the votes that need to be adjudicated, on each machine, one at a time - to do whatever they want with those ballots, so lots - tens of? hundreds of? thousands of Trump votes were flipped to Biden. Second is the fake/fraudulent ballots they had to use to backfill all of the fake/fraudulent votes that had to be added to overcome the huge Trump leads. You know, the ones that you've seen reports of being trucked in from out of state?

Then there is also the claimed evidence (haven't seen it yet though) that every democrat candidate was given 35,000 votes right off the bat (though if this happened, I imagine there was an algorithm that only did this in areas where there were enough registered voters to make this not so readily apparent).

The single greatest proof of fraud is the pushback from the Dems. Innocent people do not need subpoenas to prove their legitimacy.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: DontTreadOnMe
a reply to: chr0naut

I guess you're missing the point.
The Dominion System was/is compromised to allow fraud.
It was caught in Antrim county.
Then the security files disappeared.

The same system with the same program was used in Wayne County, all of Michigan.

Dominion was used in the other states with questionable results. The way to turn the election was to run this compromised system in Democratic strongholds, places where there would be a lot of Biden votes anyway.
If they did this in hard red areas, it would be obvious fraud, even to CNN.

Yes, the Dominion machines were old and insecure.

But was there any instance of cheating using them?

For instance, in 81% of swing state counties where Dominion machines were used, the vote went to Trump. If the Democrats were cheating, it was to give votes to Trump, based upon actual results.

Swing-state counties that used Dominion voting machines mostly voted for Trump

The narrative of the "stolen election" isn't supported by the facts in the case of swing state counties using Dominion machines.

Why are the same people who are so worried about fraud, not concerned about Florida, North Carolina and Texas?

Florida had a massive vote dump that favored Trump, North Carolina was accepting ballots up to a week after the election(which is ok if those ballots only favors Trump?), and then we have Texas where the Diebold(now called Premier) voting machines were used. Diebold has a history of fraud and security questions.

Why not scrutinize the vote in those states?

It is as if, some of you are only concerned about overturning states that voted for Biden and ignore discrepancies that favored Trump!

originally posted by: jrod

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: DontTreadOnMe
a reply to: chr0naut

I guess you're missing the point.
The Dominion System was/is compromised to allow fraud.
It was caught in Antrim county.
Then the security files disappeared.

The same system with the same program was used in Wayne County, all of Michigan.

Dominion was used in the other states with questionable results. The way to turn the election was to run this compromised system in Democratic strongholds, places where there would be a lot of Biden votes anyway.
If they did this in hard red areas, it would be obvious fraud, even to CNN.

Yes, the Dominion machines were old and insecure.

But was there any instance of cheating using them?

For instance, in 81% of swing state counties where Dominion machines were used, the vote went to Trump. If the Democrats were cheating, it was to give votes to Trump, based upon actual results.

Swing-state counties that used Dominion voting machines mostly voted for Trump

The narrative of the "stolen election" isn't supported by the facts in the case of swing state counties using Dominion machines.

Why are the same people who are so worried about fraud, not concerned about Florida, North Carolina and Texas?

Florida had a massive vote dump that favored Trump, North Carolina was accepting ballots up to a week after the election(which is ok if those ballots only favors Trump?), and then we have Texas where the Diebold(now called Premier) voting machines were used. Diebold has a history of fraud and security questions.

Why not scrutinize the vote in those states?

It is as if, some of you are only concerned about overturning states that voted for Biden and ignore discrepancies that favored Trump!

Actually they are, you are just thinking they aren't. All the voting machines need to be forensically audited in every state.

originally posted by: Phage
The "audit report" comes from Russell James Ramsland Jr., the guy who didn't know the difference between Minnesota and Michigan. I'll wait for a second opinion thank you. He's had other problems with getting his facts straight.

MSN? Really Phage?

Ramsland was only one of many involved in the audit and production of the report.

If nothing else, you should simply be calling for more audits, to either support or debunk this one. But no, all you can do is attack one of the messengers?

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: DontTreadOnMe

How do you square your concerns with Dominion with the fact that 81% of the counties that Trump won were using Dominion systems?

This isn't hard to understand.

Each machine is an independent vote gathering/manipulating device. If the people using it are honest, a large aspect of the cheating won't occur (adjudication process). The thing is, there simply should not - EVER - be a process where some beaurorat has the ability to change, add or delete votes. PERIOD.

Why are we only concerned with fraud when Trump lost?

I haven't seen anyone suggesting anything of the sort - except people like you.

Every. Single. Dominion. Machine. Should. Have. A. Forensic. Audit. Performed. NOW.

And if Kemp won by using it, throw his ass in jail. Same for Raffensberger. And yes, same for Sleepy Joe, and HRC, and everyone else where it can be proven they knowingly participated in or accepted the benefit of the cheating.

a reply to: tanstaafl

Are you familiar with the process of adjudication?

It's state law in Georgia and most other states.

As opposed to the lady in Coffee County that got caught trying to submit Trump votes twice, the fact of the matter is that all adjuication takes place before a committee made up of Democrats, Repubicans and Independents.

Don't believe everything you see on Youtube.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: tanstaafl

Are you familiar with the process of adjudication?

Yes.

It's state law in Georgia and most other states.

Yep.

As opposed to the lady in Coffee County that got caught trying to submit Trump votes twice,

One person...

Yes, this kind of thing happens on both sides. The thing is, one-offs isn't even remotely what we're discussing. Please stay on pojnt.

the fact of the matter is that all adjuication takes place before a committee made up of Demorats, Republicans and Independents.

It is supposed to. That is the problem. In these instances, there are thousands of affidavits saying this did not happen.

Don't believe everything you see on Youtube.

Or see/hear on CNN...

a reply to: tanstaafl

Ramsland was only one of many involved in the audit and production of the report.

Who else? The staff of his company?
www.abovetopsecret.com...


It's his "company" which did the "audit." The company that Sidney hired. I wonder if his "team" includes Sidney's "military intelligence expert."

Spyder, it turns out, is Joshua Merritt, a 43-year-old information technology consultant in the Dallas area.

www.seattletimes.com...