Wisconsin Supreme Court got it Right!

Some interesting reading!
www.wicourts.gov...

¶18 The process of handling missing witness information is
not new; election officials followed guidance that WEC created,
approved, and disseminated to counties in October 2016. It has
been relied on in 11 statewide elections since, including in the
2016 presidential election when President Trump was victorious in
Wisconsin. The Campaign nonetheless now seeks to strike ballots
counted in accordance with that guidance in Milwaukee and Dane
Counties, but not those counted in other counties that followed
the same guidance. The Campaign offers no reason for waiting years
to challenge this approach, much less after this election. None
exists.

including in the
2016 presidential election when President Trump was victorious in
Wisconsin.

I've said this all along, if it is cheating now, it was cheating then!!


I read through the whole lawsuit.
I'm not saying there is zero merit.
There is probably some (maybe still not enough to make a difference) merit on
on the indefinitely confined voter ballots BUT
The Trump Campaign said
all in-person absentee votes were cast unlawfully without an
application.
That would basically throw the baby out with the bath water.

cheat once, shame on democrats
cheat twice, wait what's going on here?
cheat three times, hey cut it out!
cheat every time, and there's no evidence of widespread fraud! Oh, and the AP called the election, because they're obviously important.

I'm not looking forward to seeing the history books if these clowns keep getting away with it.
This is why old men are grumpy.

a reply to: JAGStorm
President Trump was genuinely surprised when he beat Hillary, because he knew Democrat cheating was so prevalent across many states.

His 2012 interviews and tweets demonstrated great awareness of fake ballots, vote switching, etc..

It's all nearing exposure now. The China-Dominion-Politician connections are being systematically revealed.

Wisconsin's Indefinitely-confined votes were un the hundreds of thousands.

So glad the kid-sniffer is being elected today.

Jesus H, it's all such a joke.

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: JAGStorm
President Trump was genuinely surprised when he beat Hillary, because he knew Democrat cheating was so prevalent across many states.

His 2012 interviews and tweets demonstrated great awareness of fake ballots, vote switching, etc..

It's all nearing exposure now. The China-Dominion-Politician connections are being systematically revealed.

I agree. This means also that the margin of victory in ‘16 was very likely larger.
The net result may have simply prompted Trump to work more aggressively, with less
influence of ego -and he needs no prompting on the latter. Nonetheless, the crats
were lit up from the word go, their goal to foment hatred and divide which ultimately
fueled the brazen cheating and statistical anomalies of 2020, both of which are impossible
to ignore except in the minds of rare psych cases. The DNC heads feel justified in what they have performed. Probably, there is no cure for this sort of self-delusional conditioning.
That the media mob are exposed to be in collusion with the crats is an added perk of discovery.

I know damn well Trump held back on them, and I suspect the DNC is aware as well. He tried instead
to leverage what he had on them, rather than to go all Watergate, perhaps in the belief that with determination
and hard work, that they would as a party become weakened through their own flagrant rancor, and diminished by sheer contrast to what he put forth as achievements, goals. Depending on how much cheating was needed
to bypass a landslide win....Trump may have been right. I estimate Biden earned roughly 60% of his claimed
totals. That would be a whole lot of cheating. The problem at hand is that to reveal the extent of cheating
might set the place ablaze...and there are a lot of folks who are complicit in wanting a return to
business as usual in politics. All dems. Rinos. Judges. Everyone in media. State and local pols. So the TV is telling us nothing. They believe they must stay the course. Pretend Biden won. Because the alternative...is unthinkable
to them. We are supposed to agree, or else. I think we know what is in the cratmob think tank regarding this.
Hunted down. Enablers hunted down. They ‘give’ the election to Trump? Cities burn and no one has to pay for their Yeezys for the next 4. As an added bonus,,,a Biden win means cratmob will be empowered to hunt us down. Not to mention the obvious...the Dark Winter. Social scoring. Technofascism. We all see this coming,
unless mentally impaired. It is right there on your 110 inch TV, every damn minute. The desired middle ground is that we all just hold our nose against the stench of a dead Republic, because the fraud was only deployed because Orange Man Bad. They won’t do this again ie., be this flagrant about it, promise! This is how we are being guided to accept the fact that our votes will never matter again. But there won’t be a better time to bust them at it, nor a more crucial moment to do it. There won’t be a more ripe opportunity, and time will only
dilute the issue. That...and a Dark Winter after Dark Winter.

Trump may have been surprised at the ‘16 win, and this made him more peaceable.
But he is shocked at the blatant fraud result, and sorta pissed. This was their way
of killing him, to bury him, to place him at the bottom of his own landslide win,
and make him eat it,
only because an outright
assassination would have been impossible to sell us.

Now what?


# 1289

originally posted by: Tempter
Wisconsin's Indefinitely-confined votes were un the hundreds of thousands.

So glad the kid-sniffer is being elected today.

Jesus H, it's all such a joke.

If the Indefinitely-confined votes were in the hundreds of thousands why were they only challenged
in two counties?

From the judgement:

The Campaign sat on its
hands, waiting until after the election, despite the fact that
this "application" form was in place for over a decade.
To strike ballots cast in reliance on the guidance now, and to do so only in
two counties, would violate every notion of equity that undergirds
our electoral system

originally posted by: lordcomac
cheat once, shame on democrats
cheat twice, wait what's going on here?
cheat three times, hey cut it out!
cheat every time, and there's no evidence of widespread fraud! Oh, and the AP called the election, because they're obviously important.

I'm not looking forward to seeing the history books if these clowns keep getting away with it.
This is why old men are grumpy.

I've said it before, what is good for the goose.
If there is really a problem, it needs to be fixed well ahead of the election.
It has benefitted both sides at different times.

Maybe Trump has been the only one with enough grit, balls, craziness, delusion (however you want to classify him)
to challenge it. The problem is in many cases he did it too late, and he also enjoyed the spoils of those same things
when he was elected..

originally posted by: JAGStorm

originally posted by: Tempter
Wisconsin's Indefinitely-confined votes were un the hundreds of thousands.

So glad the kid-sniffer is being elected today.

Jesus H, it's all such a joke.

If the Indefinitely-confined votes were in the hundreds of thousands why were they only challenged
in two counties?

From the judgement:

The Campaign sat on its
hands, waiting until after the election, despite the fact that
this "application" form was in place for over a decade.
To strike ballots cast in reliance on the guidance now, and to do so only in
two counties, would violate every notion of equity that undergirds
our electoral system

How was the campaign supposed to challenge an abuse before it happened?

a reply to: JAGStorm

My issue with the court's logic is why would the winner challenge the system if they benefitted?

This is like if a ref makes a bad call. The team that benefitted from the call isn't going to bring up the issue.

a reply to: Tempter

How was the campaign supposed to challenge and abuse before it happened?

As mentioned previously, all the actions that were brought up in the lawsuit are not new.
If they were not abuse when Trump won in 2016, how could they be abuse now.

despite the fact that
this "application" form was in place for over a decade.

If Trump won this time, would they still claim those things were abuse/cheating... nope.

originally posted by: lordcomac
cheat once, shame on democrats
cheat twice, wait what's going on here?
cheat three times, hey cut it out!
cheat every time, and there's no evidence of widespread fraud! Oh, and the AP called the election, because they're obviously important.

I'm not looking forward to seeing the history books if these clowns keep getting away with it.
This is why old men are grumpy.

Well, maybe Texas will secede and then you can move there and not have to worry about the democrat corruption. They can be left to wallow in their sh*t. Other states will eventually follow suit. States that mean anything anyways. What are we gonna miss, the latest iPhone? Pac-12 football? Strawberries? California walnuts? Hollywood?

HELL YEAH!

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: JAGStorm
President Trump was genuinely surprised when he beat Hillary, because he knew Democrat cheating was so prevalent across many states.

His 2012 interviews and tweets demonstrated great awareness of fake ballots, vote switching, etc..

It's all nearing exposure now. The China-Dominion-Politician connections are being systematically revealed.

My buddy was telling me earlier this afternoon that WI recounted the exact same ballots 3 times and had different results every time. I was also told that Australia is getting information released about people in high places that are part of a communist team.... Times are getting interesting.

originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: Tempter

How was the campaign supposed to challenge and abuse before it happened?

As mentioned previously, all the actions that were brought up in the lawsuit are not new.
If they were not abuse when Trump won in 2016, how could they be abuse now.

despite the fact that
this "application" form was in place for over a decade.

If Trump won this time, would they still claim those things were abuse/cheating... nope.

Democrats would claim it...

Again, why would the winner bring up a bad call? They wouldn't....

a reply to: lordcomac

You claim Democrats cheat in elections but ignore obvious deceitful tactics like gerrymandering at the hands of the Republicans and pretend like the never a Republican has been busted for voter fraud.

History is not on the GOP's side with recent fraud cases:
Cries of voter fraud should be aimed at those committing it: Republicans

Republicans Finally Find Major Perpetrators of Ballot Fraud—and It’s Them!


Donald Trump attacks 'ballot harvesting' voter fraud - even though last major case involved a REPUBLICAN

Trump has a track record of baseless fraud claims:
Trump once again complained about nonexistent voter fraud in a closed-door meeting with Congress



Remember Trump and the GOP were actively trying to prevent people from voting leading up to election date.
Five Ways Trump And GOP Officials Are Undermining The Election Process


Before election day Trump was actively sowing seeds of doubt about the election process.
Trump baselessly sows doubt about election at Pennsylvania rallies while coronavirus surges


And now we are here in the eyes of Trump and his followers:
If You Didn’t Vote for Trump, Your Vote Is Fraudulent


Who are you going to believe? Trump has been dishonest to us since the beginning, now all of a sudden we should take his claims seriously?

We have scores of court cases, countless investigations from a variety of agencies, news outlets, and private interests. None have brought up any evidence of widespread fraud or any other kind of voting manipulation that could flip the results.

Georgia's Governor and Secretary of State were big supporters of Trump, they certified the vote against Trump and not only have been criticized by Trump, they are getting death threats from Trump's supporters because of the dangerous game Trump is playing.

Enough is enough. If there was truly a case for widespread fraud, there are others we to investigate it without undermining the US democratic process. In fact that would be the intelligent way to do it, quietly and without giving the entity(s) that committed a heads up they are being investigated.

Trump is doing this because he knows there is no fraud, all he wants to convince is the jury of his followers so they keep giving him money. He dies not care about the US or having a free and fair election. Given his behavior, it is obvious Trump would cheat to win if given the opportunity.

a reply to: LSU2018

Well, maybe Texas will secede and then you can move there and not have to worry about the democrat corruption. They can be left to wallow in their sh*t. Other states will eventually follow suit. States that mean anything anyways. What are we gonna miss, the latest iPhone? Pac-12 football? Strawberries? California walnuts? Hollywood?

Texas is a different place for sure. It's not so much the location but the frame of mind the people there have.
That is a compliment!
They would probably be the most successful state to secede since they been trying to do since the beginning!

originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: Tempter

How was the campaign supposed to challenge and abuse before it happened?

As mentioned previously, all the actions that were brought up in the lawsuit are not new.
If they were not abuse when Trump won in 2016, how could they be abuse now.

despite the fact that
this "application" form was in place for over a decade.

If Trump won this time, would they still claim those things were abuse/cheating... nope.

In 2016 there were 14k (around there) IC ballots returned.

In 2020, it was in the hundreds of thousands.

This year was different because Wisconsin treated those ballots for people who claimed they were staying home due to covid, which the court just said wasn't a valid reason.

It was extremely abused.

a reply to: JAGStorm

"The Campaign offers no reason for waiting years to challenge this approach,"...

This is a BS argument. Why would Trump want to contest an election he won? If anyone should protest the 2016 election it would have been the Wicked Witch Of The Left.

A slate of Wisconsin electors voted for President Trump today.

www.thegatewaypundit.com...

originally posted by: JAGStorm

Some interesting reading!
www.wicourts.gov...

¶18 The process of handling missing witness information is
not new; election officials followed guidance that WEC created,
approved, and disseminated to counties in October 2016. It has
been relied on in 11 statewide elections since, including in the
2016 presidential election when President Trump was victorious in
Wisconsin. The Campaign nonetheless now seeks to strike ballots
counted in accordance with that guidance in Milwaukee and Dane
Counties, but not those counted in other counties that followed
the same guidance. The Campaign offers no reason for waiting years
to challenge this approach, much less after this election. None
exists.

including in the
2016 presidential election when President Trump was victorious in
Wisconsin.

I've said this all along, if it is cheating now, it was cheating then!!


I read through the whole lawsuit.
I'm not saying there is zero merit.
There is probably some (maybe still not enough to make a difference) merit on
on the indefinitely confined voter ballots BUT
The Trump Campaign said
all in-person absentee votes were cast unlawfully without an
application.
That would basically throw the baby out with the bath water.

There absolutely was cheating then too... just not enough to defeat trump as planned. He won by a tight margin but he won. Exactly what standing did he have to contest the results of an election he won? None. The only person able to ask for a recount or file a lawsuit was Clinton and imo it’s telling that she didn’t.

originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: Tempter

How was the campaign supposed to challenge and abuse before it happened?

As mentioned previously, all the actions that were brought up in the lawsuit are not new.
If they were not abuse when Trump won in 2016, how could they be abuse now.

despite the fact that
this "application" form was in place for over a decade.

If Trump won this time, would they still claim those things were abuse/cheating... nope.

Your assumptions (and others in this thread) are based on the idea that any cheating, irregularities or rules that allow fraud benefited Trump simply because he won. That’s a faulty argument. It’s much more likely, given the fake polling prior to the election, The way HRCs campaign handled WI and other midwestern states in the last few days leading up to Election Day, the very narrow margin of victory without any request for a recount by HRC that there was cheating/fraud but not for Trumps benefit and just not enough to push HRC to a win.