The State of Texas filed a lawsuit directly with the U.S. Supreme Court

a reply to: Snarl

Yep, even uncited, I recognize Justice Alito's words.

What's your point?

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: Klassified

That looks like it's correct. Currently no case number so at this point the Justices still need to decide to accept it or not.

I'll be damned.

Now that IS interesting!

Texas wants to dictate to other States how to run their elections?

So much for States Rights, eh?

Fascinating times, if it's true.

Hmmm ... the document was uploaded to Scribd by Breitbart.

C'mon Gryphon, even you know if everyone doesn't play by the rules, it dilutes the election for the whole country. I'm gonna bet there were states on both sides that bent the rules. The ones named are just the most egregious at the moment.

Another day, another lawsuit, another thread full of Irrational exuberance that the Donald Trump can pull it through to a second term and cynical defense of an election system that has kept the same group of people in power for decades/centuries .... I do think the racist tone in some of the replies to be something new so there's that.

a reply to: TERAKO68

Why has not of this so called evidence stood up in a court of law?

Giuliani told a judge his case was NOT alledging fraud.

Why can't you see that team Trump is using this to sucker more donations from his gullible followers.

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: Klassified

That looks like it's correct. Currently no case number so at this point the Justices still need to decide to accept it or not.

I'll be damned.

Now that IS interesting!

Texas wants to dictate to other States how to run their elections?

So much for States Rights, eh?

Fascinating times, if it's true.

Hmmm ... the document was uploaded to Scribd by Breitbart.

It isn't a state election.
It is a Constitutional issue.

originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: Ohanka

Dominion voting machines were used in states Trump won also.

Your logic is invalid.

But you see there are so many different components to this though.

I don't believe this suit will have any pertinence, or very little, with Dominion or specific voting systems/software. Texas is going after states that unilaterally changed local voting laws, via federal courts, without having the changes pass through the state legislature, as they ordinarily should.

originally posted by: Ohanka

originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: Ohanka

Several states that Trump won also changed their voting rules because of the pandemic.

The fact they are only going after states that Biden won tells me the lawsuit is without merit and an attempt to disenfranchised 10s of millions who voted for Biden.

Yup. Disenfranchisement is pretty bad. Disenfranchising the entire country through massive voter fraud that makes every legitimate vote worthless is perhaps the highest crime of all.

... and yet, to date, no fraud has been proven in any court after more than 50 cases.

Anyone can claim anything, proving it is another matter.

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: jrod

No.
It is much more than that, plainly spelled out in the OP.

Additionally, Texas argues that there were differences in voting rules and procedures in different counties within the states, violating the Constitution’s Equal Protection Clause.

It is about the Constitution.

How exactly does Texas have a right to determine what another State does or other counties do?

What do you see as the argument about Equal Protection in this instance.

I find it fascinating.

TX won't determine that, SCOTUS will.

Do you have a problem with an issue being brought to them for further examination or something?

Couple points.

It is much easier to figure out who to charge once it has been proven a crime occurred. Right now is only strong suspicion. Plus you can get suspects to roll over on each other for reduced sentences or immunity.

What really needs to happen is a Californian Republican that the nation can rally around like Reagan needs to run. You flip California red a few times using the “favorite son” method then it might stick. Especially if there is several terms in a row like post Civil War era until basically Wilson.

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: Klassified

That looks like it's correct. Currently no case number so at this point the Justices still need to decide to accept it or not.

I'll be damned.

Now that IS interesting!

Texas wants to dictate to other States how to run their elections?

So much for States Rights, eh?

Fascinating times, if it's true.

Hmmm ... the document was uploaded to Scribd by Breitbart.

It isn't a state election.
It is a Constitutional issue.

Yes, they are State elections. That's why the Governors of each State certify that State's election.

We will see if this is even legitimate zero confirmation thus far.

a reply to: Gryphon66
Hmmm.....isn't it "proven" in court?
Nice "circular" logic.

Still, the lawperson and his cohorts, have deemed this over, right?

originally posted by: Nyiah

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: jrod

No.
It is much more than that, plainly spelled out in the OP.

Additionally, Texas argues that there were differences in voting rules and procedures in different counties within the states, violating the Constitution’s Equal Protection Clause.

It is about the Constitution.

How exactly does Texas have a right to determine what another State does or other counties do?

What do you see as the argument about Equal Protection in this instance.

I find it fascinating.

TX won't determine that, SCOTUS will.

Do you have a problem with an issue being brought to them for further examination or something?

I've said it's fascinating ... does that sound like I have an issue with it?

It hasn't even been proven that the case is filed. Breitbart uploaded the file to Scribd. So, at this moment, Breitbart is the only "source."

Maybe wait for that before you go in whole hog on this, eh?

a reply to: Gryphon66

The fact they are only going after states where Biden won says it all.

One can easily find states where Trump won that had similar changes via executive action, yet the lawsuit did no name those states.

We both know this will go no where, but it might be the kind of news that will help Trump get more donations.

Perhaps states should simply follow their own laws?
Seems almost simple....

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: Klassified

That looks like it's correct. Currently no case number so at this point the Justices still need to decide to accept it or not.

I'll be damned.

Now that IS interesting!

Texas wants to dictate to other States how to run their elections?

So much for States Rights, eh?

Fascinating times, if it's true.

Hmmm ... the document was uploaded to Scribd by Breitbart.

It isn't a state election.
It is a Constitutional issue.

Yes, they are State elections. That's why the Governors of each State certify that State's election.

We will see if this is even legitimate zero confirmation thus far.

You might want to give up being deliberately obtuse.
These issues are about a national election. The President doesn't just preside over Wisconsin... you know?

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: Klassified

That looks like it's correct. Currently no case number so at this point the Justices still need to decide to accept it or not.

I'll be damned.

Now that IS interesting!

Texas wants to dictate to other States how to run their elections?

So much for States Rights, eh?

Fascinating times, if it's true.

Hmmm ... the document was uploaded to Scribd by Breitbart.

No one likes a cheater. Wait for what the US Supreme Court will say about all of this - I suspect you won´t like their decision.

-MM

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: Klassified

That looks like it's correct. Currently no case number so at this point the Justices still need to decide to accept it or not.

I'll be damned.

Now that IS interesting!

Texas wants to dictate to other States how to run their elections?

So much for States Rights, eh?

Fascinating times, if it's true.

Hmmm ... the document was uploaded to Scribd by Breitbart.

It isn't a state election.
It is a Constitutional issue.

Yes, they are State elections. That's why the Governors of each State certify that State's election.

We will see if this is even legitimate zero confirmation thus far.

Density is good for stuff, not people.

Really dumbing this down so you can grasp it, maybe Lum can expound later when she gets on:

They think they have a shot at having the case heard, not for the election itself, but the Constitutional procedures sidestepped in order to quickie-change state laws. Those procedures exist for a reason and if they were violated and nothing is ever done about it, it sets a god-awul precedent for changing # on a whim in future elections.
That must not be allowed to happen again if it did happen, under the existing legal structure.

This is the section of the original article that piques my interest...

Additionally, Texas argues that there were differences in voting rules and procedures in different counties within the states, violating the Constitution’s Equal Protection Clause.

I'd really like to understand what the procedural differences were, and justification for why they were made.

originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: Ohanka

Several states that Trump won also changed their voting rules because of the pandemic.

The fact they are only going after states that Biden won tells me the lawsuit is without merit and an attempt to disenfranchised 10s of millions who voted for Biden.

how does that work from a legal perspective? Do the courts operate off of the feelz of some leftie in Florida? Or do they go by the law? See, the law just appears to be a better way to judge things.

And I'm sure after the suits are filed in the contested states or (states that Trump lost and could change the results of the election) if any of those suits win, then each state can check into their own laws and see if they followed them.

Or is the law not a factor due to Covid?

a reply to: Nyiah

We'll see.

May I just say, that you "dumbing something down" for anyone is hilarious.

Thanks for the early morning gut-buster, LOL.