FDA Documents Reveal DEATH As Possible Adverse Outcomes from Covid-19 Vaccine

a reply to: uncommitted
I summarize it for you.

You made a blunt statement that you could not support, because you had insufficient knowledge about the topic you were opining about. I made you aware of it. Kenzo posted a link directly contradicting your statement.

That you didn't have this information at the time you were posting, was my whole point.

You can decide to take the negative things with you, or learn from it.

a reply to: uncommitted


BREAKING : FDA announces 2 deaths of Pfizer vaccine trial participants from "serious adverse events"


On page 41

Vaccines and Related Biological Products A dvisory Committee MeetingDecember 10, 2020

originally posted by: ThatDamnDuckAgain
a reply to: uncommitted
I summarize it for you.

You made a blunt statement that you could not support, because you had insufficient knowledge about the topic you were opining about. I made you aware of it. Kenzo posted a link directly contradicting your statement.

That you didn't have this information at the time you were posting, was my whole point.

You can decide to take the negative things with you, or learn from it.

Or you can look at what you actually posted. I guess you are anti mask, anti covid being a bad thing? There was no evidence anyone had died directly as a result of taking the vaccine at the point I wrote my post and apart from a right wing blog - there actually still isn't.

You could perhaps grow up and read people's posts before making negative comments, or not bother responding, it's a free world.

a reply to: uncommitted

If pointing out a false claim is a negative thing to you, fine. You could perhaps stop the guessing and making up of things and stick to facts.

Like I wrote, you can run with the negative thing here or learn something. For the sake of denying ignorance, I would have thought you choose the latter one.

It's a free world.
good day

originally posted by: ThatDamnDuckAgain
a reply to: uncommitted

If pointing out a false claim is a negative thing to you, fine. You could perhaps stop the guessing and making up of things and stick to facts.

Like I wrote, you can run with the negative thing here or learn something. For the sake of denying ignorance, I would have thought you choose the latter one.

It's a free world.
good day

So I've just read that report and I can quote -

A total of six deaths occurred in the reporting period (2 deaths in the vaccine group, 4 in
placebo). In the vaccine group, one participant with baseline obesity and pre-existing
atherosclerosis died 3 days after Dose 1, and the other participant experienced cardiac arrest
60 days after Dose 2 and died 3 days later. Of the four deaths in the placebo arm, the cause
was unknown for two of them, and the other two participants died from hemorrhagic stroke
(n=1) and myocardial infarction (n=1), respectively; three deaths occurred in the older group
(>55 years of age). All deaths represent events that occur in the general population of the age
groups where they occurred, at a similar rate.

www.fda.gov...


So there is no evidence (yet) that either were related directly to the vaccine and twice as many died after having the placebo!!!!!!!

You might want to educate yourself a little, like others on here who take clickbait seriously.

a reply to: uncommitted
3 Days after a dose of a new vaccine still in testing phase is enough to be suspicious. Two deaths in the placebo group can not be accounted for at all. Even though all deaths represent events that occur in the general population of these age groups at similar rate, I also attached two questions early on.

How many got the shots yet, how big is the data collection to make any statistical guesses yet? All I am saying is that blunt statements like yours are dangerous and way too early to be so confident. It's not just about death, it's about lasting side effects, too. I wrote that very early on, too.

Parents, like the mother I am, also have decisions for their children to make. Some decisions will have life long implications. A "nobody died (yet" isn't enough for me. I allow you to have your opinion, allow me to challenge blunt statements like yours.

originally posted by: ThatDamnDuckAgain
a reply to: uncommitted
3 Days after a dose of a new vaccine still in testing phase is enough to be suspicious. Two deaths in the placebo group can not be accounted for at all. Even though all deaths represent events that occur in the general population of these age groups at similar rate, I also attached two questions early on.

How many got the shots yet, how big is the data collection to make any statistical guesses yet? All I am saying is that blunt statements like yours are dangerous and way too early to be so confident. It's not just about death, it's about lasting side effects, too. I wrote that very early on, too.

Parents, like the mother I am, also have decisions for their children to make. Some decisions will have life long implications. A "nobody died (yet" isn't enough for me. I allow you to have your opinion, allow me to challenge blunt statements like yours.

Hmmm, that's ok, you can try and backtrack. What blunt statement did I make? Truth is you don't trust it. The FDA report showed nothing that linked the deaths of the two who had taken the vaccine as linked to it - as in that the vaccine was responsible for their deaths as the clickbait would lead you to believe.

You do know that two people dying after taking the placebo where cause of death has not been accounted for has nothing to do with the vaccine, don't you?

Please don't try and turn my posts around because you'd rather take clickbait from 'alternative' blogs that have an agenda that isn't necessarily linked to your wellbeing.

ETA: It wasn't 3 days after the injection. 60 days after injection 2 the poor person had a heart attack and died 3 days after the heart attack.

Little edit, but the detail is important.

originally posted by: Kenzo
a reply to: rickymouse


Good to know Calcium supplements can block molybdenum uptake. Garlic / Kyolic is also quite good chelator....kyolic is easy to take daily and removes heavy metals, expect aluminium i think. Just recently i noticed that i when taked several different sulfur supplements same day....i started to get odd taste to my mouth ....then, i realized that i need to add molyblenum which enables bodys sulfur things....the taste vanished after taking the molyblenum.

NAC also prevents blood clots, so it"s amazing supplement. Right now i am doing some anti-candida things....i feel it is causing symptoms to me...so focusing now to that.

I went through about ten years experimenting on myself with supplements and food chemistry. Evaluating different mineral complexes and evaluating how they worked. Same with the vitamins and other supplements. I still occasionally take them for a longer term with higher doses to evaluate something but for the most part I have tested much of the chemistry. I do better with Methyl Folate and methylcobalamin....fits right in with the information from my genetic data when analyzed.

The Methyl Folate is usually plant based but is found in liver too. Methylcobalamin is the opposite, it is found mostly in Meats and some bacteria or fungus can also make it. So, since microbes are not included in a ban for vegans, they have vegetarian types of this supplement in health food stores, appropriate for everyone. I have some adenocobalamin but am waiting to test it in times when covid is not so much a problem. I cannot find reasonable priced hydroxycobaliman but adeno and Hydroxy versions are good medicine for some special illnesses, I can just keep the adeno type for emergency use.

Testing things on myself has given me some bad results sometimes, especially boosting calcium absorption with a combo of Vitamin D and Calcium in high doses. Felt great till all sorts of lumps started forming on my joints. I tried high dose nicotinic acid, just a thousand mg once a day. My moles that had gotten hard and irritating all got raw and I was hoping they would disappear, but they remain but are not soft and not itchy or irritating anymore. I had no idea that would happen, but it did, makes me wonder if I could use hot peppers to do the same thing. I took that niacin for about five days overall for a trial, the niacin flush was bad, but I learned what can initially seem bad can sometimes do some good. I still have some in stock but only 500 mg ones and with studies, I learned that if you are deficient in niacin, niacin is required to make enzymes that help us uptake niacin. Sometimes high doses are needed to jumpstart the metabolism of it and then just a normal amount is needed. In my case, I was locked out and I do take a little supplement every couple of days and that is plenty. It actually cured my problem in that week...but it can come back and I am aware of that.

I could go on and on with this kind of stuff, I must have evaluated hundreds of supplements, vitamins, mineral types, and specific food chemistries that way to evaluate them. Just because something makes your tummy twist does not mean you need to avoid it. Also, like you said, B vitamins need sulfite oxidase and nitrogen dehydroginase to utilize, both of these share the Molybdenum coenzyme. The only way you could be deficient in Molybdenum is if you avoided molybdenum meat sources or lacked enzymes to seperate it from food sources. Amylase deficiency could make it so you could not absorb plant or grain molybdenum kinds from foods which could lead to a deficiency. Rice tends to have quite a bit, but if you can't absorb it, what good does it do. The molybdenum in potatoes gets left in the plant usually. The seeds of fruit do have it but also contain lectins to protect the seed from being processed in the digestive tract. You can increase absorption of this in some things by roasting the seeds, it destroys some but not all lectins which are anti-nutrients in some plant chemistries.

I really should write a book on all this stuff before I wind up with dementia. I would call it fake nutrition since it does not match the fad nutrition that is accepted as real nowadays, consensus of the time as it relates to nutrition is worse than the news is these days, research does not say what they imply it says.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Kenzo

Death is always a possibility.

When you provoke your immune system, you could be setting yourself up for an severe allergic reaction among other things.

When I took a series of allergy shots, I had to carry an epi-pen because even if the previous shots were fine, there was always a chance that the next could provoke an anaphylactic reaction. Those allergy shots were messing with my immune system. Granted, it's a different facet of the immune system, but the idea is the same -- you don't know for sure how you'll react to any given injection until you get it.

Makes for a good case to well, NOT be injected with a novel vaccine we don’t know it will do. Seems like an added risk I don’t need.

a reply to: uncommitted

So there is no evidence (yet) that either were related directly to the vaccine and twice as many died after having the placebo!!!!!!!

Didn't they come out with the news that they forewent the placebo and actually vaxxed everyone, so there was no control group?