Trump's court losses near 50. Can we all agree that it's over and Biden is our President?

originally posted by: johnnylaw16

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: johnnylaw16

originally posted by: carewemust
The United States Supreme Court has agreed to hear evidence of election violations.... beginning tomorrow.

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They aren't "hear[ing] evidence." They are hearing arguments regarding whether the PA statute is legal. That's all.

PA Officials overrode (ignored) the laws set forth by the PA legislature. That's illegal.

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That's what I said. Just worded it differently than you.

Back to business...

Sidney Powell described today how lower court judges not even addressing the content of the lawsuits is a good thing.

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a reply to: johnnylaw16
Didn't you say it is over?
Whats with the scotus hullabaloo?
Lol

a reply to: Gryphon66


" There is no documented voter fraud."

Keep Telling Yourself that while the Opposite Happens .

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: johnnylaw16

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: johnnylaw16

originally posted by: carewemust
The United States Supreme Court has agreed to hear evidence of election violations.... beginning tomorrow.

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They aren't "hear[ing] evidence." They are hearing arguments regarding whether the PA statute is legal. That's all.

PA Officials overrode (ignored) the laws set forth by the PA legislature. That's illegal.

Are you literate? You seem to have trouble reading any of the items that you discuss or link to. The PA case is challenging a law enacted by the state legislature. Read the case. You'll learn something about it.

That's what I said. Just worded it differently than you.

Back to business...

Sidney Powell described today how lower court judges not even addressing the content of the lawsuits is a good thing.

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This is what you said "PA Officials overrode (ignored) the laws set forth by the PA legislature. That's illegal."

This is literally the opposite of what the case is about. The case is about whether the laws set forth by the legislature are legal, not whether someone "overrode" or "ignored" those laws.

Sidney Powell is an idiot. Really. She has no respect in the legal community, and SCOTUS will not take her case. I can guarantee that.

a reply to: Zanti Misfit
That one will slink back under the rock it lives under soon.
Its due for another "break".

a reply to: johnnylaw16
You already told us its over.
Did the scotus not get your memo?
Did you not file a brief?

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: Gryphon66


" There is no documented voter fraud."

Keep Telling Yourself that while the Opposite Happens .

The opposition is on life support and will soon flatline. No court is taking any of this seriously.

a reply to: johnnylaw16
You said its over.
Why would anyone take YOU seriously?
Does scotus know about this?

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: johnnylaw16
You already told us its over.
Did the scotus not get your memo?
Did you not file a brief?

This case will not overturn the election results. It is unlikely that SCOTUS will even grant the requested emergency relief, much less hear the case on the merits. And even if it did, it will not invalidate any votes, regardless what it holds with regard to the law. It is still over.

a reply to: johnnylaw16
Does scotus know its over lawman?
Why accept something thats over lawboy?

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: Gryphon66


" There is no documented voter fraud."

Keep Telling Yourself that while the Opposite Happens .

Yet, reality contradicts you.

Over 50 court case results contradict you.

The sworn statements of Trump's attorneys contradict you.

I don't have to say a word.

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: johnnylaw16
Does scotus know its over lawman?
Why accept something thats over lawboy?

They do know it's over. There may be a question left to answer with regard to PA law (we'll see what SCOTUS says on the certiorari petition), but they will not invalidate any votes or overturn any results.

a reply to: johnnylaw16

Let me make sure I understand the issue: Alito instructed PA to keep the absentee ballots that were received after 8 PM on Election Day separate, and to provide a tabulation of the total votes reeived after 8 PM Tuesday through Friday close of business (which is the extention the legislature gave in recognition of the health crisis, which was acknowledged by the PA Supreme Court).

PA has to report to Alito by tomorrow morning that number of segregated votes, correct? (Of course in a filed response to the PA Republican's appeal)

And further, hasn't the entire US Supreme Court already ruled on the September ruling of the PA Supreme Court, right? And ruled against the PA Republicans and for allowing the extension?

Ruling that the state could accept the mail in ballots through the following Friday, as long as they were postmarked by Election Day?

Is that a fair summary of the situation? And the suit that is pending is asking that ALL absentee ballots be discarded?

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: johnnylaw16

Let me make sure I understand the issue: Alito instructed PA to keep the absentee ballots that were received after 8 PM on Election Day separate, and to provide a tabulation of the total votes reeived after 8 PM Tuesday through Friday close of business (which is the extention the legislature gave in recognition of the health crisis, which was acknowledged by the PA Supreme Court).

PA has to report to Alito by tomorrow morning that number of segregated votes, correct?

And further, hasn't the entire US Supreme Court already ruled on the September ruling of the PA Supreme Court, right? And ruled against the PA Republicans and for allowing the extension?

Ruling that the state could accept the mail in ballots through the following Friday, as long as they were postmarked by Election Day?

Is that a fair summary of the situation? And the suit that is pending is asking that ALL absentee ballots be discarded?

No, not quite. There's a lot of confusion surrounding the current case and the one that came before it. Around Election Day, Alito issued an emergency injection ordering PA to segregate ballots received after Election Day, in case it was later decided that those ballots could not be counted. It was later determined that the number of late-arriving ballots would not effect the outcome of the election, and as far as I am aware, nothing more has come of that case.

The second case was filed more recently by a small group of state legislators. This lawsuit alleges that PA's entire no-excuse mail-in voting law is unconstitutional under the PA constitution and federal constitution. The PA Supreme Court dismissed the case, stating that it was not timely brought (1) because the law sets a time limit by which constitutional challenges to be brought, and (2) because plaintiff's have tried to essentially game the system by waiting until voters relied on the law in good faith and then seeking to challenge the law.

This is the case in which Plaintiffs have now sought an emergency injunction before Alito. The parties are currently briefing the issue of whether Alito should grant the emergency injunction. If the injunction issued, it would only last until the court decides whether to hear the case on the merits. Also pending before the Supreme Court is Plaintiffs' petition for certiorari, which asks the Court to hear the case on the merit. If four justices agree to hear the case, the petition will be granted and the court will hear the merits of the case later.

It's very unlikely that the Court will grant the emergency injunction that Plaintiffs seek. It's also unlikely that the Court will grant the cert petition, but they may have slightly better odds there. Regardless what happens, it is extremely unlikely that the Court would invalidate any votes, even if (and this is still very unlikely) the court found the mail-in voting law to be unconstitutional.

a reply to: johnnylaw16

Perfectly clear.

Thanks for taking the time.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: johnnylaw16

Perfectly clear.

Thanks for taking the time.

a reply to: johnnylaw16

Truth is something I am highly interested in.
So I will say it, as others have yet said it... "It's not over till it's over."

Due diligence in process can yield wisdom, yet. no?

Some who might presume themselves wiser than they are, may have presumed the outcome already...

That could be egg on plate or face depending on the outcome.
It "in truth" is generally an unwise venture, but I suppose in the sponsorship for good debate could be considered "wisdom in seeking".

*bows*

What we need here is something like the "Warp Speed" program.

Something like "Captain Picard's Phaser."
In an episode of "The Next Generation", there was a debate over whether or not Commander Data was Star Fleet property or had Free Will to choose for himself.

Captain Picard was defense council for Data, and argued that all of the points Commander Ryker, (serving as Prosecution),
had brought up were irrelevant to the core issue, otherwise known as the "real" Truth. "You must burn away all the irrelevancies to get to the core truth of the matter."

That is "Picard's Phaser".

...and D.J. used it!

The Truth is this..
It is about our system of voting.
The Heart and Life Blood of our Constitutional Republic!

He came to realize that what was happening was not about "Trump vs Biden". It was about the miracle of the greatest experiment in governance to ever Grace the surface of this world!

A Government of , by and for the people of the United States of America; under God and indivisible. With Liberty and Justice for ALL! 07

...and indeed the world for that matter.
Give the Bells of Freedom a little time to Ring, Johnny? ...please?

The Statue of Liberty was well crafted and placed... We are a beacon of Light in the Darkness of the Eternal Night.

A beacon of Hope in the Darkness.
Darkness that can come to rest upon , and/or overwhelm the Light that is the Human Spirit.

We are children of a being of Light, Love and Life
We are ouselves, beings of Light

May you walk always in the Light of Truth...
May it guide you, between the Dark Secrets of Forever...
And may you go with Dignity and Courage into the Night, wrapped in a cloak of Compassion, Love and Human Kindness...

Fare you well fellow Travellers......Always...

a reply to: johnnylaw16
If scotus knows its over why hear the case?
I do not understand your "logic".

originally posted by: johnnylaw16

originally posted by: pteridine

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: pteridine

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: NorthOfStuff
a reply to: Zanti Misfit

The Dems kept the country and POTUS tied up in lawsuits, investigations, and court cases for four years!

Fraud or not this election needs to be investigated fairly and openly for the sake of the country’s future.

The Dems and the Left are now outraged at a good portion of the population that have doubts in the election process and have called for an investigation.

This is a prime example of Leftist false indignation and hypocrisy.

If they had nothing to hide they would let it run it’s course so they can have an “I told you so moment”.

It’s too much to ask that they do it for the sake of the country but at least you would think they would in order to stroke their ego.

Haven't you heard, investigations are what Congress does now. That whole legislative thing wasn't any fun anymore.

Please.

I will tell you what is bad for the country though, the ex-President lying and trying to undermine our electoral system and his allies trying to start an insurrection.

You do realize that the lying ex-President is Barack Hussein Obama, don't you? Trump is the President and Biden is not President-elect.

Trump is the lying soon-to-be-ex-President I referred to, you know, the guy who is lying claiming that he won the Election? The one whose allies are calling for insurrection and civil war because they got their feelz??

Yeah, that guy. Thanks for the clarification.

You should probably wait until the legal festivities are concluded before making such definitive statements. From what we have seen, he seems to have a good case for fraud. In PA, 1.5 million ballots were mailed out and 2.5 million were counted. Do you wonder how that happened?
Joe even told one of his audiences that he didn't need them to win. At the time, I wondered what he meant. Maybe his handlers told him and he let it out without understanding why.

If you're going to make wild claims, cite to some actual evidence. Trump does not have a "good case for fraud." Indeed he isn't even alleging fraud in court. And the crazy lawyers that have (read: Powell and Lin) have had their cases dismissed out of hand left and right.

Those dismissed cases are leading to SCOTUS which should sort things out. There are many witnesses to "irregularities" in the voting process and the unusual vote count spikes during the counting process. Why would all those key states suddenly stop counting in the middle of the night right before finding magical packs of ballots?

We don't get to see what the evidence is because we are not part of the judiciary. It would seem Dominion has some explaining to do about their software that allows for partial votes.

Do you really believe that Biden got more votes than Clinton or Obama? His rallies were in tens of people. He couldn't answer any questions other than what flavor of ice cream he bought and even then he had to look. When asked about his tax plan he said "if I tell you they'll shoot me." He can't even read the teleprompter, an Obama strength. He is obviously mentally impaired and the use of this shell of a man to slip Harris into the presidency is elder abuse. Harris is a worse presidential candidate than Hillary and Tulsi gutted this empty headed lightweight in the primary debates. Why not run stronger candidates? The racist DNC and Barry O pushed a "woman of color" and Biden was the more moderate candidate who could also resign due to "health problems."

We mere citizens can only watch and kibitz while the power players, play.