Trump's court losses near 50. Can we all agree that it's over and Biden is our President?

originally posted by: carniv0re
More likely when justice is done, the outcome will be accepted.

Will it? I doubt that bigly.

originally posted by: johnnylaw16

originally posted by: putnam6
On a side bar... does anybody else read johnnylaw16 posts and hear them like it's Sam Waterson speaking and then get the Law and Order tag line

"In the criminal justice system, the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups. The police who investigate crime and the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. These are their stories."

along with the DUN DUN

I literally just laughed out loud reading this. I sincerely hope that that is happening.

It’s not. You literally don’t know the difference between drivel and dribble. Game recognizes game. And you look strange.

originally posted by: johnnylaw16

originally posted by: MerkabaMeditation

originally posted by: johnnylaw16

originally posted by: MerkabaMeditation
FAKE NEWS!

Trump´s legal team has only filed 3 lawsuits, you´re falsely (and perhaps even intentionally) including 3rd parties that are also filing lawsuits that have no association with Trump´s legal team except perhaps a common goal. Here is what Trump´s lawyers say on your fake news at 3:30 in this two day old recording from the hearings:

This thread should be closed; it´s fake news!

-MM

First sentence of the OP points this out. Moreover, there may have only been 3 where the campaign was a plaintiff, but that does not mean that his legal team is not intimately involved in the others; indeed it would border on malpractice if they were not advising on the others with all that they have at stake here. Have you heard them anywhere disclaim any lawsuit filed for their benefit?

Lies from you OP:

originally posted by: johnnylaw16
..Judge after judge has thrown out and denied lawsuits by Trump and his allies, as they near fifty total losses:..

These are not lawsuits filed by Trump´s allies - where is your proof that they are his allies? Trump and his lawyers have no influence on these third parties and neither do they have contact with them, so how can they be allies. These is all lies!

-MM

You are delusional if you do not think that Trump has influence over these suits. It would be an idiotic move by Trump's legal team if they were not involving themselves in these suits. And while I think that his legal team certainly leaves something to be desired, they are not that stupid.

Show me proof of these conspiracy theory fantasies of yours.

-MM

a reply to: johnnylaw16

Nope

But much to the American public’s dismay, the 2020 Presidential election is not a simple one-two punch. “We still have not graded a winner People who bet Trump say it is not over. People who bet Biden say it is. This makes for a tricky situation where we have to be sure. It’s not like a football game,” Adam Burns, BetOnline’s sportsbook manager, told the New York Post.

The NYP reported that just a few weeks before November 3rd, 2o2o, one political bettor wagered $1.3 million on Joe Biden, and today awaits a $1.9 million payout from BetOnline.

Many of the online sportsbooks are holding out to avoid a 2016 Presidential election payout debacle. In 2016, Ireland-based gambling site PaddyPower made premature payments on Hillary Clinton as the winner and ended up taking a five-million-dollar bath. One of our favorite sportsbooks, Bovada, echoed the rationale many sportsbooks are currently using on their Twitter.

“If Biden comes in, it’s a big win for us,” said Adam Burns, siting that BetOnline’s bettors strongly favored Trump. “If Trump is declared the winner, we will take a bath. It will not be a happy day here.”

High action from poll-mocking Trump loyalists has many sportsbooks holding out for a clear Biden victory, but they are unwilling to take any chances declaring a premature winner. For now, bettors will have to wait.

Follow the money, it's sad when the gambling houses have more truth of the reality than the MSM

originally posted by: djz3ro

originally posted by: carniv0re

originally posted by: djz3ro
a reply to: johnnylaw16

Trump is done, every rejected case is another egg on his face. He never stood a chance and anyone with a logical brain knows this.

You'll get many challenges but i doubt many will be of substance.

As long as he holds up the transition process he is making America look weak and foolish on the world stage. His friends in Russia and China will be loving this.

Trust me, besides the MSM banging on about 'president biden' the world see this scam for what it is. Trump has every right to demand a fair and proper investigation.

you should too. it's better to be seen as legit in the light of day, than win countless votes in secrecy and darkness.. with no one to check.

I think you're mistaken. People the world over are reporting on Trump's baseless claims. Every newspaper in the UK mocks him relentlessly for his effort to change the course of the election.

Let me ask you this my Scottish friend. When you have a family argument or even a family discussion do you run next door and ask what your neighbor thinks about the situation, and if is contrary to your beliefs do you take their advice and actually do it.

If so I'm pretty sure William Wallace wouldn't have been wearing a kilt.

a reply to: johnnylaw16

"Can we all agree that it's over and Biden is our President?"


After 4 years of being called all kinds of names for voting for Trump, hearing Trump referred to as "my" president....



Joe Biden will NEVER be my President and I look forward to judging Biden every time he farts and blaming Biden supporters for the crap show that is about to start.


Fun times are directly ahead.

originally posted by: MerkabaMeditation

originally posted by: johnnylaw16

originally posted by: MerkabaMeditation

originally posted by: johnnylaw16

originally posted by: MerkabaMeditation
FAKE NEWS!

Trump´s legal team has only filed 3 lawsuits, you´re falsely (and perhaps even intentionally) including 3rd parties that are also filing lawsuits that have no association with Trump´s legal team except perhaps a common goal. Here is what Trump´s lawyers say on your fake news at 3:30 in this two day old recording from the hearings:

This thread should be closed; it´s fake news!

-MM

First sentence of the OP points this out. Moreover, there may have only been 3 where the campaign was a plaintiff, but that does not mean that his legal team is not intimately involved in the others; indeed it would border on malpractice if they were not advising on the others with all that they have at stake here. Have you heard them anywhere disclaim any lawsuit filed for their benefit?

Lies from you OP:

originally posted by: johnnylaw16
..Judge after judge has thrown out and denied lawsuits by Trump and his allies, as they near fifty total losses:..

These are not lawsuits filed by Trump´s allies - where is your proof that they are his allies? Trump and his lawyers have no influence on these third parties and neither do they have contact with them, so how can they be allies. These is all lies!

-MM

You are delusional if you do not think that Trump has influence over these suits. It would be an idiotic move by Trump's legal team if they were not involving themselves in these suits. And while I think that his legal team certainly leaves something to be desired, they are not that stupid.

Show me proof of these conspiracy theory fantasies of yours.

-MM

Out in the hinterlands, beyond the realm of the pot, there is a kettle so black it’s purple...

originally posted by: carniv0re

originally posted by: djz3ro

originally posted by: carniv0re

originally posted by: djz3ro
a reply to: johnnylaw16

Trump is done, every rejected case is another egg on his face. He never stood a chance and anyone with a logical brain knows this.

You'll get many challenges but i doubt many will be of substance.

As long as he holds up the transition process he is making America look weak and foolish on the world stage. His friends in Russia and China will be loving this.

Trust me, besides the MSM banging on about 'president biden' the world see this scam for what it is. Trump has every right to demand a fair and proper investigation.

you should too. it's better to be seen as legit in the light of day, than win countless votes in secrecy and darkness.. with no one to check.

I think you're mistaken. People the world over are reporting on Trump's baseless claims. Every newspaper in the UK mocks him relentlessly for his effort to change the course of the election.

Well you just confirmed what I said.

The MSM is guffawing over things, as they are told to do.

The people on the other hand, those who do their own research, not so much. The MSM can play it as hard as they want, make every one look a fool. it's their mandate. But it's got no chops.

We, who dare to look, see.

I do my own research and I don't share your opinion

Moot plea. We aren't the ones who decide when "it's over".

a reply to: johnnylaw16

originally posted by: johnnylaw16

originally posted by: RMFX1
I thought that the trump team only filed 3 law suits?

First sentence of post says “Trump and his allies.” Besides, just because Trump isn’t a named party does not mean that he is not involved in the case.

Trump election campaign, led by Trump appointee, paid by Trump, and RNC.

Here's one tiny example,



Name: Donald J Trump for President, Inc v. Philadelphia County Board of Elections

RELIEF SOUGHT: HALTING THE COUNT IN PHILADELPHIA
CURRENT STATUS: SETTLED
NUMBER OF BALLOTS AT ISSUE: NONE
While Pennsylvania was still tallying votes, the Trump campaign rushed into federal court seeking an emergency injunction to stop the count in Philadelphia. It claimed its observers were not allowed to be present in the counting room. At an emergency hearing, the campaign’s lawyer admitted that, in fact, some of its observers were present, prompting the judge to ask: “I’m sorry, then what’s your problem?”

The case was settled at the hearing with an agreement that Republicans and Democrats could have up to 60 observers each in the counting room.

Trump campaign

www.ft.com...

From The Guardian,

'lawyers for the Trump campaign withdrew a lawsuit in Arizona, conceding that the case would not move enough votes to change the election result in the state. “Since the close of yesterday’s hearing, the tabulation of votes statewide has rendered unnecessary a judicial ruling as to the presidential electors,” Trump lawyer Kory Langhofer told an Arizona state court, in news first reported by the Wall Street Journal'

www.theguardian.com...

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: djz3ro

originally posted by: carniv0re

originally posted by: djz3ro
a reply to: johnnylaw16

Trump is done, every rejected case is another egg on his face. He never stood a chance and anyone with a logical brain knows this.

You'll get many challenges but i doubt many will be of substance.

As long as he holds up the transition process he is making America look weak and foolish on the world stage. His friends in Russia and China will be loving this.

Trust me, besides the MSM banging on about 'president biden' the world see this scam for what it is. Trump has every right to demand a fair and proper investigation.

you should too. it's better to be seen as legit in the light of day, than win countless votes in secrecy and darkness.. with no one to check.

I think you're mistaken. People the world over are reporting on Trump's baseless claims. Every newspaper in the UK mocks him relentlessly for his effort to change the course of the election.

Let me ask you this my Scottish friend. When you have a family argument or even a family discussion do you run next door and ask what your neighbor thinks about the situation, and if is contrary to your beliefs do you take their advice and actually do it.

If so I'm pretty sure William Wallace wouldn't have been wearing a kilt.

What a silly question?

Of course I don't. You seem confused and very off topic.

a reply to: johnnylaw16

Uh, no. Biden can be YOUR President, he will never be my President. Crooked elections produce invalid results.

originally posted by: TonyS
a reply to: johnnylaw16

Uh, no. Biden can be YOUR President, he will never be my President. Crooked elections produce invalid results.

What actual court “certified” proof of a crooked election do you have?

Emotional driven speculation proves nothing.

originally posted by: johnnylaw16
Well, can't argue with God, I guess . . . But seriously, how do you begin to have a substantive argument with someone who believes this?

I didn't say it, take it up with HIM. And in reality you ARE arguing with God. Good luck with that BTW, like I said, He's usually right. You have literally picked a fight that you CANNOT win.

originally posted by: Murgatroid

originally posted by: johnnylaw16
Well, can't argue with God, I guess . . . But seriously, how do you begin to have a substantive argument with someone who believes this?

I didn't say it, take it up with HIM. And in reality you ARE arguing with God. Good luck with that BTW, like I said, He's usually right. You have literally picked a fight that you CANNOT win.

Both you and Michelle Bachmann are really onto something. Something so reasoned and sane. If god would just quit puttering around & unsheathe that iron rod already! Those clay pots of delusion have got to go!

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: djz3ro
a reply to: johnnylaw16

Trump is done, every rejected case is another egg on his face. He never stood a chance and anyone with a logical brain knows this.

You'll get many challenges but i doubt many will be of substance.

As long as he holds up the transition process he is making America look weak and foolish on the world stage. His friends in Russia and China will be loving this.

Imagine how much it is costing.

A good bit less than the Mueller Probe and the Impeachment hearings,

DOJ says the Mueller probe cost $32 million. But they recovered $28.6 million from Manafort and Cohen, so actual cost to the nation was $3.4 million.

Yes, the Mueller investigation is costly. But the millions seized from Manafort have it on track to break even

Wisconsin alone has been estimated to cost $7.9 million.

Wisconsin recount would cost Trump campaign about $7.9 million, state officials say

A similar recount in the gubernatorial race in Washington in 2004 cost $1.16 million.

The Cost of Statewide Recounts
A Case Study of Minnesota and Washington

Apparently, The Trump campaign has put forward $3 million for the task.

And they are keeping a database of instances of vote fraud. Have a look at the actual numbers.

Also, Trump implemented a DOJ team to look at voter fraud in the 2016 election, back in 2017-2018 and that was disbanded because it cost too much and wasn't showing results.

Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

originally posted by: Murgatroid
God called this election numerous times including way back in 2007 long before AP even knew who was RUNNING. Unlike some of the 'professionals' here on ATS, he's usually right... On the plus side, ignoring this is making some of you look like absolute total buffoons. If you had listened to HIM instead of CNN, you'd be right instead.

January 20 is coming up real quick, you still have time to admit you're wrong. We won't even say: 'I TOLD you so...' No matter HOW tempting that might be...

EDIT: If this all sounds foolish to some of you, I heard about a lawyer who used this knowledge back in 2016 to bet a half million on Trump , we all KNOW how that turned out...

False religion and political propaganda.

originally posted by: Murgatroid

originally posted by: johnnylaw16
Well, can't argue with God, I guess . . . But seriously, how do you begin to have a substantive argument with someone who believes this?

I didn't say it, take it up with HIM. And in reality you ARE arguing with God. Good luck with that BTW, like I said, He's usually right. You have literally picked a fight that you CANNOT win.

I don't think he is arguing with God.

He is arguing with people who suggest God is doing their bidding and who justify their opinions by saying it is God ordained. But we have significant history that shows us that God allows bad things to happen to sinful people (for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God).

The gospels are about personal repentence and how Jesus has restored to us relationship with God. It isn't about some legalist set of rules, nor is it about being enforced into compliance by autocratic leadership.

Even back straight after the giving of the Law, there was the legal issue of inheritance that was not covered in the given Law (Daughters of Zelophehad).

Cleraly, God wanted us not to simply follow the Law, but to understand the intent behind it and to apply that intent intelligently - to interpret the Law.

This means that those who wrestle with difficult issues (like abortion, euthanasian and sexuality) are doing God's will and those who simply follow the letter of the Law, are not.

"I hate, I despise your religious festivals; your assemblies are a stench to me. Even though you bring me burnt offerings and grain offerings, I will not accept them. Though you bring choice fellowship offerings, I will have no regard for them. Away with the noise of your songs! I will not listen to the music of your harps. But let justice roll on like a river, righteousness like a never-failing stream! ... You have lifted up the shrine of your king, the pedestal of your idols, the star of your god -- which you made for yourselves. Therefore I will send you into exile" says the LORD, whose name is God Almighty. - Amos 5:21-27a.

originally posted by: chr0naut
False religion and political propaganda.

His OWN word disagrees with you, numerous times...

Since you brought up scripture, you read it I assume, but do you actually obey it?

Asking simply because it appears you clearly do not understand it.

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: djz3ro
a reply to: johnnylaw16

Trump is done, every rejected case is another egg on his face. He never stood a chance and anyone with a logical brain knows this.

You'll get many challenges but i doubt many will be of substance.

As long as he holds up the transition process he is making America look weak and foolish on the world stage. His friends in Russia and China will be loving this.

Imagine how much it is costing.

Cost is irrelevant when it comes to ensuring an election is legitimate.

Cost is also irrelevant when someone in authority acts as if they are above the law.

Executive Privelege is the very principle of corruption.

It also has no support within, and is counter to, the Constitution of the USA.

Any and every POTUS who invokes Executive Privelege, is corrupt and not upholding the law as is their duty under the Constitution.