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Blatant Facebook Fact Checking Nonsense
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originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: LordAhriman
You’re full of it.
The fear card doesn’t work anymore, covid is a mild respiratory disease in the vast majority of cases. Actually the majority of people are completely symptom free.
Either you’re the most unlucky person in the world or making sh!t up.
I made nothing up. Yes, for the vast majority of people it is mild. That's a good thing. 98% or so of people will survive. I never claimed otherwise. That percentage will go down if the hospitals are full (we're there). In my particular county, they release numbers every Friday at 5pm, and every week since the beginning they have been reporting over 80% of positive tests being symptomatic. Provide a source on that majority being asymptomatic.
We are being massively conned, kinda' like the election in fact.
Coincidence? Maybe...
Coincidence? Maybe...
"The actual covid death rate is between .1% and .2%, that means the actual death rate is 22 1/2 to 45 times less deadly than we were originally told..."
What It's Like to Believe Everything the Media Tells You (@ 2 1/2 min.)
www.youtube.com...
In stunning new findings, researchers working in Los Angeles County contend that the number of people who have been infected with coronavirus could be as much as 55 times higher than the levels experts originally believed. The numbers indicate the virus could be far less deadly than believed.
www.dailynews.com...
originally posted by: Murgatroid
It's mutating, and hospitals are getting better at dealing with it. Viruses usually mutate to keep their host alive. Their sole purpose is to reproduce. If the host dies, they lose their reproduction host. It was to be expected that the mortality rate would go down.
edit on 1-12-2020
by LordAhriman because: (no reason given)
a reply to: dug88
fact checking is even more biased than the news stories, memes etc, that they are checking. in many if not most cases this fact checking is actually done due to political bias and trying to censor people with different opinions.i do believe the proper term for this is gaslighting.
i have read many so called fact checks. some take one tiny point that might be wrong, even things such as the wrong date given, and use it to call the entire thing FALSE. other times it actually takes some extensive mental gymnastics to come the their point of calling something FALSE. and still yet other times if you read it, what they are calling FALSE is proven to be true in their write up.
i just had a post fact checked as FALSE last week. it was over a post i had posted a couple or so weeks before. which shows how far they will go to gaslight. i have seen some from friends were posts that were YEARS OLD had been fact checked, and brought to their attention. which just shows how far they will go to gaslight people.
now my post that was just fact checked wasn't even political in nature. and know for a FACT, the information given was true. it was about the massive flooding that occurred in the Philippines from the second typhoon to go through following a very close track to the previous typhoon about a week and a half earlier. added to the flooding from the intense rains (measured in meters deep, even up to three stories deep in some spots), was the fact that they then opened dam floodgates, making the situation even worse. it was about people asking for help and rescue, long after the storm had gone through. which since entire towns were underwater, even almost whole provinces. with rescue efforts majorly hampered by strong winds which made helicopter rescue difficult, if they could get air-born at all. not to mention a lack of non flooded places with fuel available. where they could land and refuel. and boats hampered by the very strong currants in many places even powerboats could not safely get through.
how do i know it was true? because i happen to live there, it was on the news for days. and close friends and friends and relatives of close friends were some of those affected. heck those who still had cellphone data that worked, were actually using things like facebook, twitter etc to try to call for help while stranded on things like roofs out in the open.
now why did facebook's supposed fact checkers call it FALSE? well according to them one picture had supposedly been posted the year before (slight possibility it could have been, or could have been a picture that is very close considering when taking a picture of mostly roofs poking out of the water during floods in the same area, would likely be taken from the same piece of high ground and vantage point). but even worse than that, it was also false, because they could not VERIFY the other pictures. so first they say it's false because they found the same or similar picture online. and also false because they couldn't find the other pictures online?
what makes it even worse is the fact that MSM uses old pictures, pictures with the wrong people, even pictures (verifiably), taken somewhere else entirely, at a different time. and you don't see the supposed fact checkers calling their stories and posts FALSE for it.
fact checking is even more biased than the news stories, memes etc, that they are checking. in many if not most cases this fact checking is actually done due to political bias and trying to censor people with different opinions.i do believe the proper term for this is gaslighting.
Gaslighting
Gaslighting is a form of psychological manipulation in which a person or a group covertly sows seeds of doubt in a targeted individual or group, making them question their own memory, perception, or judgment. Wikipedia
i have read many so called fact checks. some take one tiny point that might be wrong, even things such as the wrong date given, and use it to call the entire thing FALSE. other times it actually takes some extensive mental gymnastics to come the their point of calling something FALSE. and still yet other times if you read it, what they are calling FALSE is proven to be true in their write up.
i just had a post fact checked as FALSE last week. it was over a post i had posted a couple or so weeks before. which shows how far they will go to gaslight. i have seen some from friends were posts that were YEARS OLD had been fact checked, and brought to their attention. which just shows how far they will go to gaslight people.
now my post that was just fact checked wasn't even political in nature. and know for a FACT, the information given was true. it was about the massive flooding that occurred in the Philippines from the second typhoon to go through following a very close track to the previous typhoon about a week and a half earlier. added to the flooding from the intense rains (measured in meters deep, even up to three stories deep in some spots), was the fact that they then opened dam floodgates, making the situation even worse. it was about people asking for help and rescue, long after the storm had gone through. which since entire towns were underwater, even almost whole provinces. with rescue efforts majorly hampered by strong winds which made helicopter rescue difficult, if they could get air-born at all. not to mention a lack of non flooded places with fuel available. where they could land and refuel. and boats hampered by the very strong currants in many places even powerboats could not safely get through.
how do i know it was true? because i happen to live there, it was on the news for days. and close friends and friends and relatives of close friends were some of those affected. heck those who still had cellphone data that worked, were actually using things like facebook, twitter etc to try to call for help while stranded on things like roofs out in the open.
now why did facebook's supposed fact checkers call it FALSE? well according to them one picture had supposedly been posted the year before (slight possibility it could have been, or could have been a picture that is very close considering when taking a picture of mostly roofs poking out of the water during floods in the same area, would likely be taken from the same piece of high ground and vantage point). but even worse than that, it was also false, because they could not VERIFY the other pictures. so first they say it's false because they found the same or similar picture online. and also false because they couldn't find the other pictures online?
what makes it even worse is the fact that MSM uses old pictures, pictures with the wrong people, even pictures (verifiably), taken somewhere else entirely, at a different time. and you don't see the supposed fact checkers calling their stories and posts FALSE for it.
a reply to: LordAhriman
I would be VERY surprised if this were true. I can't see how a false flag in a test tube would be smart enough to mutate. If the mainstream academia & the 'news' is saying it, I'm not buying it. PERIOD...
I would be VERY surprised if this were true. I can't see how a false flag in a test tube would be smart enough to mutate. If the mainstream academia & the 'news' is saying it, I'm not buying it. PERIOD...
originally posted by: Murgatroid
a reply to: LordAhriman
You are insane. 3rd grade science teaches us about virus mutation. If it is bio-warfare, it's the weakest example in history.
a reply to: Rikku
Simplification of the issue and borderline anti-Semitic. The tiny cabal pulling the strings is not a reflection of an entire demographic. The average Jewish person is under the same attack on liberty as the rest of us.
It’s akin to saying all Catholics are paedophiles.
Simplification of the issue and borderline anti-Semitic. The tiny cabal pulling the strings is not a reflection of an entire demographic. The average Jewish person is under the same attack on liberty as the rest of us.
It’s akin to saying all Catholics are paedophiles.
a reply to: LordAhriman
www.who.int...#:~:text=For%20COVID%2D19%2C,i nfections%2C%20requiring%20ventilation.
According to the WHO it’s around 80% asymptomatic. I’d say that qualifies as a vast majority and stand by my statement.
www.news-medical.net...
Some sources in the UK put the figure at 86%.
Next.
www.who.int...#:~:text=For%20COVID%2D19%2C,i nfections%2C%20requiring%20ventilation.
According to the WHO it’s around 80% asymptomatic. I’d say that qualifies as a vast majority and stand by my statement.
www.news-medical.net...
Some sources in the UK put the figure at 86%.
Next.
a reply to: LordAhriman
Science 'Fiction'... NOT a big fan...
Science 'Fiction'... NOT a big fan...
How do you know if you have fallen prey to the cult of 'Scientism'? Answer this question: Can you differentiate between the collective human understanding of 'how' things work in our material world, and the 'why' of how they came to be that way. (or even why it does what it does at all.) Those are two very different questions, that scientists, (who frequenty are very bad philosophers,) often get mixed up. Never forget that 'science' can be as abused for the sake of religious or anti-religious preconceptions as equally as the Bible can be, on both sides of a debate.
Combating the cult of "Scientism."
originally posted by: LordAhriman
originally posted by: putnam6
Sorry about your sister and friends I really am as I have mentioned before, and sure don't want to get into specifics in what is obviously a troubling time for you.
Regardless your cases are purely anecdotal, if there were extensive cases of "permanent damage" it would be blasted across the airwaves by our esteemed MSM.
I know what you're asking. No, they didn't have any preexisting conditions. None of them. Heart damage guy is old, but that's it. My sister is 35, and COPD guy is 50. It's not "anecdotal", it's typical experience from people I know in this area. I'm in a small county, in the middle of Missouri, and we keep breaking records because of maskless rednecks who refuse to believe epidemiologists and virologists.
Permanent damage is ABSOLUTELY something that is being talked about within the circles of people who are actually studying this outside of YouTube and infowars.
No, my friend you have told me before about your sister and the other man too, you mentioned your sister had blood clots on her lungs, saw no reason to rehash it
But it is purely anecdotal just the 6 people I know that have had it, one passed away he was elderly and they were on a cruise, my uncle in his mid 70's has previously had a spot on his lungs was sick for 2-3 days was in the hospital on supplemental oxygen had lingering effects but ok now. Old acquaintance's Mom was sick and has been in a nursing home for a while she actually recovered better than my uncle. My sister's sister in law has caught it just last month she is 60 and she is fine now. The other 2 business associates in their early 50's had and didn't even know it, till they heard a client they had seen had it. They went and got tested and it came back positive. My personal known cases are purely anecdotal as well
www.msn.com... r-12-weeks/ar-BB199saV
Here's an article that is important to read
Lung damage could be permanent for some coronavirus patients, but new scans show significant healing after 12 weeks
The research confirms that the virus can produce long-lasting physical damage, but it also suggests that patients' lungs might be capable of healing over time.
That's good news for the growing share of COVID-19 patients whose recovery processes have lasted well beyond their hospital visits. An Italian study in July found that 87% of patients who were hospitalized with COVID-19 still had symptoms — including difficulty breathing — two months after their illness began. And last month, a UK study that's still awaiting peer review found that 12% of COVID-19 patients had abnormal chest X-rays 12 weeks after they were admitted to the hospital.
a reply to: LordAhriman
www.dovepress.com...
Published on 8th October by University College London
Keep trying, your blind arrogance and ignorance is bound to come up with a reasonable point given enough attempts.
www.dovepress.com...
Published on 8th October by University College London
Keep trying, your blind arrogance and ignorance is bound to come up with a reasonable point given enough attempts.
edit on 1/12/20 by Grenade
because: (no reason given)
originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: dug88
First statistic - 0.11495% of the world population die of hunger in a year.
2nd statistic - 0.10218% of the world population die from poverty in a year.
These first two statistics cannot be added together to increase the value, they significantly overlap each other.
Third statistic - (global deaths / global recovered) = 2.374746 % which is more than 20 times the previous percentages (I didn't use the approximate number from the graphic).
(statistics taken from: coronavirus.jhu.edu... and www.worldometers.info...)
For my sanity, I have to assume almost nobody truats "fact checkers" - I mean, mych of the poplation zips around in 2+ tons of high-speed vehicle on the same streets as I do. It terrifies me to think those who believe The Ministry of Truth are somehow pulling of driving cars. I'd be shocked at their being literate, but assume they're using voice to text.
What I'm really stuck on, is how do you die of poverty? I can see them saying poverty increases the risk of heart disease because of eating McDonald's regularly, Cheetos, twinkies...receive poor mideocal care? Starve to death from lack of food. Accidental overdose because they can only afford street druge of really questionable quality, or freezes_burns to death living outside, but as far as I know, nobody dies because their wallets are empty.
originally posted by: WakeUpBeer
This just in! In a new study, we found that 100% of people, die at some point in their lives.
Well : we can only hope, for ourselves and loved-ones :that the point in our lives at which we die, will be near the end of our lives, and not near the beginning.
But as my good old dad used to say : there are folks dying today, that have never died before !
There's a nice new cemetery up on the hill. Folks are dying to get into there !
What ? We're supposed to stay on OP ? OK : here yaz go :
CorbettReport.Com : Who Will Fact Check the Fact Checkers ?
Ducky back-up link for above vid.
Vid while it lasts, before the purge:
If a Facebook (or twitter) fact-checker says something is false - it’s not
That’s the case 100% of the time
That’s the case 100% of the time
originally posted by: dogstar23
originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: dug88
First statistic - 0.11495% of the world population die of hunger in a year.
2nd statistic - 0.10218% of the world population die from poverty in a year.
These first two statistics cannot be added together to increase the value, they significantly overlap each other.
Third statistic - (global deaths / global recovered) = 2.374746 % which is more than 20 times the previous percentages (I didn't use the approximate number from the graphic).
(statistics taken from: coronavirus.jhu.edu... and www.worldometers.info...)
For my sanity, I have to assume almost nobody truats "fact checkers" - I mean, mych of the poplation zips around in 2+ tons of high-speed vehicle on the same streets as I do. It terrifies me to think those who believe The Ministry of Truth are somehow pulling of driving cars. I'd be shocked at their being literate, but assume they're using voice to text.
What I'm really stuck on, is how do you die of poverty? I can see them saying poverty increases the risk of heart disease because of eating McDonald's regularly, Cheetos, twinkies...receive poor mideocal care? Starve to death from lack of food. Accidental overdose because they can only afford street druge of really questionable quality, or freezes_burns to death living outside, but as far as I know, nobody dies because their wallets are empty.
Being poor is stressful as hell, its constant and all-encompassing you never get away from it. Throw in all the other things that being poor makes you more susceptible to bad living conditions, crime, uncertainty, lack of security so many factors.
Hell, we grew up poor but nobody noticed cause everybody was poor, wasn't till I was in my teens that we were well off and it was noticeable. My life has been up and down 4-5 times and we are on a down cycle right now. It's much better to be not even well off, just to be able to sustain modest living expenses.
If you want to truly experience it, send me your paycheck each month and I'll send you what a minimum wage worker makes on 50 hours a week and you try and maintain your current lifestyle.
originally posted by: Murgatroid
a reply to: LordAhriman
Science 'Fiction'... NOT a big fan...
How do you know if you have fallen prey to the cult of 'Scientism'? Answer this question: Can you differentiate between the collective human understanding of 'how' things work in our material world, and the 'why' of how they came to be that way. (or even why it does what it does at all.) Those are two very different questions, that scientists, (who frequenty are very bad philosophers,) often get mixed up. Never forget that 'science' can be as abused for the sake of religious or anti-religious preconceptions as equally as the Bible can be, on both sides of a debate.
Combating the cult of "Scientism."
Big Science™ = Bought and owned.
Governments™ = Bought and owned.
Therefore : Government science™ = Bought and owned.
Yet in this thread again, we have the call to authority. We are implored to listen to "The Experts™".
Virologists™, Immunologists™, Fingerupyerarseologists™, etc...
Can we not see that those supposed experts, are toeing the line, time after time ?
Screw "The Experts™" !!
They work for the oligarchs/technocrats, that are driving this whole snip-show.
But yer gonna have to think for yourselves.
Don't believe any of the above ideas.
'Cause ya never know...
Maybe even good old nothin, is really Nothin™ = Bought and owned...
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