Trump's Legal Update : HUGE! Georgia ORDERS Ballot Audit as Sidney Powell RELEASES THE KRAKEN!!!

a reply to: FatherLukeDuke

Click your heels and say there's no place like home all you want to. All those words will soon be turning into crow just like Cinderella's carriage after the ball. WHEN this happens, you will realize that you have been listening to all the wrong folks. ONE of us is about to be proven wrong. THEN we'll see whose REALLY done...

originally posted by: Doctor Smith
Turn off the MSM media. Nothing but propaganda. Make no mistake. Stay focused on this. The Presidency will be decided in the House of Representatives. This isn't going away. And it still doesn't look good for Biden.

To save time start video at 10:00 minutes to get into the facts and updates.

HUGE! Georgia ORDERS Ballot Audit as Sidney Powell RELEASES THE KRAKEN!!!

Just for context.. so we know the impartiality (cough) of the thread. It would be nice to see a thread started on here that isn't originating from a right wing, propagada source. But what's the likelihood of that eh??

No idea if this response will be deleted or not. I created a thread several days ago to start an open dialogue with members to talk about the many threads which seem to be created (often by the same people) from questionable (and generally) very far right sources and if it is something we as a site want to support or flag as a potential issue. It was closed down by the mods after an hour or so. Make of that what you will I guess.

Anyway, for what it is worth..

mediabiasfactcheck.com...

Overall, we rate BitChute extreme right and Questionable based on the promotion of conspiracy theories, propaganda, hate speech, poor sourcing, fake news, and a lack of transparency. This source is not credible for accurate information and may be offensive to some (most).

a reply to: bluesilver

Overall, we rate BitChute extreme right and Questionable based on the promotion of conspiracy theories, propaganda, hate speech, poor sourcing, fake news, and a lack of transparency. This source is not credible for accurate information and may be offensive to some (most).

I rate the centralized controlled media as highly dangerous to the cognitive function of the population. We get 4 years of Russia nothing burgers among a systemic case of TDS. The bias with the election coverage is both sociopathic and delusional. The case for organized and intentional crimes with attempt to steal the election look compelling. Removing Section 230 is a good start.

As for Bitchute, it makes a good place to pick up the slack from Youtube. As with all information sources these days, handle with care. Finding anyone 100% right, 100% of the times is a tough ask. I find it worth checking out at times for what big tech and the media ain't saying.

originally posted by: kwakakev
a reply to: bluesilver

Overall, we rate BitChute extreme right and Questionable based on the promotion of conspiracy theories, propaganda, hate speech, poor sourcing, fake news, and a lack of transparency. This source is not credible for accurate information and may be offensive to some (most).

I rate the centralized controlled media as highly dangerous to the cognitive function of the population. We get 4 years of Russia nothing burgers among a systemic case of TDS. The bias with the election coverage is both sociopathic and delusional. The case for organized and intentional crimes with attempt to steal the election look compelling. Removing Section 230 is a good start.

As for Bitchute, it makes a good place to pick up the slack from Youtube. As with all information sources these days, handle with care. Finding anyone 100% right, 100% of the times is a tough ask. I find it worth checking out at times for what big tech and the media ain't saying.

I am in no way saying that centralized media isn't a problem, but when threads are so often started, like this one, from highly dubious sources and no apparent effort by the OP to confirm that information from anywhere else too before posting such a thread as probable FACT, we are just saying "don't look at those dodgy news places, look at this dodgy news place instead!".

Which. Helps. No-one.

originally posted by: Murgatroid
a reply to: FatherLukeDuke

Click your heels and say there's no place like home all you want to. All those words will soon be turning into crow just like Cinderella's carriage after the ball. WHEN this happens, you will realize that you have been listening to all the wrong folks. ONE of us is about to be proven wrong. THEN we'll see whose REALLY done...

OK, you stay in your safe space.

I am curious as to what exactly you think will happen between now and December 8th?

a reply to: bluesilver

when threads are so often started, like this one, from highly dubious sources and no apparent effort by the OP to confirm that information from anywhere else

The motto of this website is 'Deny Ignorance'. it can be a tough thing to do these days with so much complex stuff around. For someone to start a new thread there must be something to it. Maybe they have a good story to share, maybe they have questions and trying to work it out? There are some good experts and well experienced individuals lurking around these boards at times that can help to quickly sort out the facts from the fiction. Some things may take years or generations to resolve, if ever.

It is good when people can put together interesting threads, it can take time and experience to get better at it. Sometimes there is not much to work off and one of many mysteries? The one thing that does bring us all together is the truth. Take it easy with the ones catching up, call it out when you see it. Learning to live in the grey zone helps with so many conflicting views and stories around helps. Occasionally you find some strong nuggets of truth to help take away some of the uncertainty.

There is an information war going on. ATS makes a good blade with the armour of god.

originally posted by: bluesilver

originally posted by: kwakakev
a reply to: bluesilver

Overall, we rate BitChute extreme right and Questionable based on the promotion of conspiracy theories, propaganda, hate speech, poor sourcing, fake news, and a lack of transparency. This source is not credible for accurate information and may be offensive to some (most).

I rate the centralized controlled media as highly dangerous to the cognitive function of the population. We get 4 years of Russia nothing burgers among a systemic case of TDS. The bias with the election coverage is both sociopathic and delusional. The case for organized and intentional crimes with attempt to steal the election look compelling. Removing Section 230 is a good start.

As for Bitchute, it makes a good place to pick up the slack from Youtube. As with all information sources these days, handle with care. Finding anyone 100% right, 100% of the times is a tough ask. I find it worth checking out at times for what big tech and the media ain't saying.

I am in no way saying that centralized media isn't a problem, but when threads are so often started, like this one, from highly dubious sources and no apparent effort by the OP to confirm that information from anywhere else too before posting such a thread as probable FACT, we are just saying "don't look at those dodgy news places, look at this dodgy news place instead!".

Which. Helps. No-one.

Agreed. We're in a world all of a sudden where AP News is being labelled deep state left wing blah blah, by the same people who post newsmax, OAN, and BitChute without even so much as a mention of the fact that they are heavily, objectively right-leaning.

And when you post a link to a media bias rating website? The rating website is deep state liberal controlled and biased.

You can't possibly win against this level of mental gymnastics.

I'm as anti Trump as you can possibly be - but I don't read CNN as it's just too heavily left leaning with its bias. Same reason I don't read other rags like newsmax as they're obviously way too far to the right with their propaganda.

I read a variety of left, right, and relatively central sources to try and make my own mind up. Too many of the cultists on either side just label anything which goes against their narrative "biased" or "deep state".

And then they claim everyone else is a sheep... Christ.

a reply to: FatherLukeDuke

Watch this interview with Jerome Corsi & Ex-CIA Robert David Steele. It's over an hour long so be warned but I believe it is very close to what will happen very soon... BTW before yesterday I was already 1000% convinced that Trump was staying in the WH. I was already sure of that, but it's late and I need to sleep...

When the case reaches the Supreme Court, the justices have been traditionally reluctant to pick winners and losers in elections. Also, the Supreme Court is likely to insist that questions of voter fraud had to be settled in state and federal trial courts. In the federal court system, the Supreme Court would expect the federal district courts to have adjudicated whether or not voter fraud occurred and if it occurred in sufficient numbers to award the presidency to Trump. Unfortunately, given the Constitutional deadlines, including the setting of the inauguration day on January 20, 2021, there may not be enough time for the federal district courts to conduct the trials that would be required.

Fortunately, the Constitution provides the Supreme Court a remedy. When the Electoral College fails to vote 270 electors to any one presidential candidate, the solution is for the Supreme Court to throw the election to the Congress.

The Election Goes to Congress

According to Article II, Section 1, Clause 3 of the Constitution, as modified by the Twelfth Amendment, the U.S. House of Representatives votes for the president and the U.S. Senate votes for the vice president. In the House of Representatives, each state gets one delegate vote in the vote for president; in the U.S. Senate, the candidate receiving the majority of votes becomes the vice president.

corsination.com...

originally posted by: Murgatroid
a reply to: FatherLukeDuke

Watch this interview with Jerome Corsi & Ex-CIA Robert David Steele.

Sorry, but I'm not spending three hours of my precious life watching that. I tried 3 minutes and it seemed like a lifetime. I want to know what you think is going to happen between now and December 8th (or even 14th if you like) that will stop Biden becoming the next president?

Do you have some vision of Sydney Powell bursting into the Supreme Court at the 11th hour and unleashing her poorly spelled "Kraken" on them? They will read it and get blown away by the overwhelming evidence before banging their gavels and declaring the election for Trump?

It makes for a cheesy movie scene, I'm sure. But back in the real world it doesn't work like that.

originally posted by: kwakakev
a reply to: bluesilver

when threads are so often started, like this one, from highly dubious sources and no apparent effort by the OP to confirm that information from anywhere else

The motto of this website is 'Deny Ignorance'. it can be a tough thing to do these days with so much complex stuff around. For someone to start a new thread there must be something to it. Maybe they have a good story to share, maybe they have questions and trying to work it out? There are some good experts and well experienced individuals lurking around these boards at times that can help to quickly sort out the facts from the fiction. Some things may take years or generations to resolve, if ever.

It is good when people can put together interesting threads, it can take time and experience to get better at it. Sometimes there is not much to work off and one of many mysteries? The one thing that does bring us all together is the truth. Take it easy with the ones catching up, call it out when you see it. Learning to live in the grey zone helps with so many conflicting views and stories around helps. Occasionally you find some strong nuggets of truth to help take away some of the uncertainty.

There is an information war going on. ATS makes a good blade with the armour of god.

Absolutely. We all can find interesting stories and put them here as questions, discussion or just wanting further info, and sometimes we might not realise that our source isn't the best. I absolutely agree with that.

But there are quite a number of people who repeatedly and knowingly create threads originating from dubious sites and then state them as fact. They are not doing it to question or to highlight new information which needs discussion, it is to state that other people are wrong/idiots and to bolster their own position, even when the know that the site they are taking their information from is heavily biased.

Lets not kid ourselves here, they are fully aware that they are not pushing the discussion or information forward, they are certainly not wanting a dialogue around the subject to discuss it with an open mind. It's purely about trying to win an argument, even though they fully know that their source is at best questionable and at worst, propaganda. Thread after thread, post after post, day after day.

I have no problem with their politics or that they want to prove a point, doing so will help find the truth in anything. My issue is as I've stated countless times, if we want to find that truth, KNOWINGLY choosing to muddy the waters by posting so much bad quality information is counter to finding that truth and in my mind, we should guard against that.

It's like a player on your own team kicking the ball into their own net and saying "just highlighting that we need a better defence". You would be saying "what the...you're meant to be helping us, not making it harder!".

Seems crazy to me.

a reply to: bluesilver

Sorry pal. I want to know what is really happening. Not the censored by George Soros dung sources you worship.If you choose to ignore that their massive election fraud that's your problem.

a reply to: FatherLukeDuke

Sorry, but I'm not spending three hours of my precious life watching that. I tried 3 minutes and it seemed like a lifetime. I want to know

Here's the filed law suites your kind were demanding. Your going to have to scroll down the page to the links. Might be too much for you.

Kraken Filings


For someone that doesn't have any time to look at the evidence. You sure have all the time in the world to spread your made up self doubts.

a reply to: Doctor Smith

No kidding, I gave it to him in text, video, AND a picture, and his reply: "Sorry, but I'm not spending three hours of my precious life watching that." My PRECIOUS life? WHISKEY TANGO FOXTROT... I should have known better after seeing his 75K karma score, reminds me of this election, NOTHING suspicious there at all... WTG 'Father', NICE job completely destroying your 'precious' credibility!

a reply to: Doctor Smith

I stopped reading after the "Donate Below" banner appeared.

Also, posters that refer to "your kind" kind of ring alarm bells for me.

Show me evidence! Waaaaaah I don't wanna look at the evidence you are trying to show me! Why are you trying to show me this?

a reply to: TKDRL

This Kraken thing. Does it live up to it's name in your opinion?

Would be interested to know.

originally posted by: Doctor Smith
a reply to: FatherLukeDuke

Sorry, but I'm not spending three hours of my precious life watching that. I tried 3 minutes and it seemed like a lifetime. I want to know

Here's the filed law suites your kind were demanding. Your going to have to scroll down the page to the links. Might be too much for you.

Kraken Filings


For someone that doesn't have any time to look at the evidence. You sure have all the time in the world to spread your made up self doubts.

She's not going to win that -- and I say that as someone who is an election judge (Texas) and who's worked presidential elections. There are numerous checks and balances as well as multiple trails to confirm a vote tally. These checks and balances also mean that BOTH parties are heavily involved in every step of the process.

There's a voter registration cutoff date (which is legal and was decided on by both parties.)
There's judge and clerk training (done by both parties)
Polling places have judges and multiple clerks from both parties
Separate software means you can't vote in two different places (and will make you vote a provisional ballot if you requested a mail-in ballot. If you do a provisional vote, they will NOT count it until you show up with proof of who you are and confirm your vote)
The election night tally is done by both parties and is measured against a separate record of how many people actually voted.
Ballots and voting tallies are turned in (by the judge) to a single location that is manned by both parties.
Voting tallies are confirmed by multiple people. Tallies (Republicans vs Democrats) are confirmed by the separate records (we have actually a paper record in addition to our electronic records that we, as judges, have to keep)

...and election judges have to keep those records for 2 years.

So in order for this "ballot stuffing" to take place, every single person in the election process (including the clerks) from BOTH parties has to be conspiring to give the election to Biden.

I can tell you that this particular scenario is false. Lots of those Republican judges and clerks were VERY pro-Trump (in fact, one of my clerks in the previous election was pro-Trump and still worked at a Democratic polling place (for the Democratic party election where we chose Biden as our candidate)

We work because your ability to vote is important to us. And we put aside party differences AND we make sure the vote is honest, even when it goes against what we really wanted.

a reply to: Murgatroid

Jerome Corsi.

'Nuff said.

originally posted by: fencesitter85

Agreed. We're in a world all of a sudden where AP News is being labelled deep state left wing blah blah, by the same people who post newsmax, OAN, and BitChute without even so much as a mention of the fact that they are heavily, objectively right-leaning.

And when you post a link to a media bias rating website? The rating website is deep state liberal controlled and biased.

You can't possibly win against this level of mental gymnastics.

I'm as anti Trump as you can possibly be - but I don't read CNN as it's just too heavily left leaning with its bias. Same reason I don't read other rags like newsmax as they're obviously way too far to the right with their propaganda.

I read a variety of left, right, and relatively central sources to try and make my own mind up. Too many of the cultists on either side just label anything which goes against their narrative "biased" or "deep state".

And then they claim everyone else is a sheep... Christ.

You wrote what ive wanted too write here for a while, someone needed to say it. The fact we have Trump supporters on ATS who are as hypocritical, biased and blind in following as they appear while touting themselves as the complete opposite really makes me annoyed.

I personally, going from a conspiracy angle, think that what if with Trump and the Reps constant assault on media and deeming it all fake news bar anything that is 100% pro their message the last 4 years, that this was all done to drive their more 'special' supporter base into the arms of ultra right media such as OAN and NewsMax... all relatively new media outlets by the way that are 100% pure propaganda and conspiracy driven when you look at them with any sort of reasonable eye. ie drive and coerce your base into foregoing every form of information bar the ones you can have 100% message control over.

Yet as you say everyone else is called the Sheep.

originally posted by: continuousThunder
the most baffling thing about this whole situation still ongoing is thinking through the implications of what many posters here are gleefully hoping for.... you want Balkanised America? this is how you get Balkanised America

The alternative is questioning their own existence and coming to terms with harsh reality. Like Stalinists in the 50s, the cult of personality is in their very bones.