Joe Biden to Receive Top Secret Intel Briefings - How Does He Qualify for Any Security Clearance?.

a reply to: deadlysyn


Dude Joe is not u der criminal investigation.
The FBI is still looking into Hunter though.
CWM is ill informed most the time.
A simple search will clear that up for ya.
With that being said Joe is absolutely able to get clearance.

This thread: "JIPP JIPP JIPP" (excited and anxious little dog noises).


This guy has been Vice-president. He has had already more security clearings than all of you together.. And there is no reason that he might not get it again. And for Hunter Biden and his so-called Ukraine-connections (which nobody believes in):

Please take a look at Eric and Don jr. as a *BAD* example of not-really-cleared but nethertheless.
Was Donald sr.'s security clearing being revoked because of this? Nope.

They're hoping he lets something classified slip out so they can deem him unfit for office sooner than 2022.

a reply to: Allaroundyou

The echo chamber does not like facts.

The next 4 years on this site, the OP will be promising evidence that will force Biden's impeachment that will never materialize.

Dont let facts get in the way of what you want to be true, especially when you have an echo chamber to astroturf so it appears to be a popular opinion.

originally posted by: carewemust
How could ANYONE, let alone the potential President of the most powerful nation on Earth, be ELIGIBLE to be briefed on the highest/most classified and sensitive information rounded up by our CIA, NSA, FBI, US Mil, DOJ, etc., when:

Think about it...

1. Joe is senile. He won't be able to remember a thing, especially when

2. Half of the Intel briefing will be about the status of the investigations into him, his son, and votescam 2020.

It will probably drive him to either a heart attack or into a catatonic state.

a reply to: carewemust

In the same manner that Trump received briefings when he was acknowledged as president elect.

Or are you saying that Trumps briefings were unethical/illegal?

Do you even think before you make these posts?

a reply to: neformore

But that was Trump.

Ironic how partisans only care when it's the other guy.

The media called Trump the winner before the electoral college (albeit that wasn't as close), he received the briefings, spoke with foreign leaders (even as a candidate), and other similar happenings.

Now that he's lost, he's even doing the whole foreign interference, election was hacked, and all that.

At least Trump said give the same briefings he gets, unlike the last President did when Trump was coming in 😃🚬

originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: Allaroundyou

The echo chamber does not like facts.

The next 4 years on this site, the OP will be promising evidence that will force Biden's impeachment that will never materialize.

Dont let facts get in the way of what you want to be true, especially when you have an echo chamber to astroturf so it appears to be a popular opinion.

You obviously have amnesia or maybe a worse problem.
We saw 4 years of you guys promising evidence to impeach Trump that never materialized.
There is not a deranged Leftist alive that knows what real facts are.

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Lumenari

It's likely that no-one will need a security clearance, or immigration papers. But everyone will need a Corona-19 vaccination in order to shop, get a license, own a gun, travel, etc..

Sounds like oppression to me. Wait, we're not democrats so we're forced to live under a different set of rules. I'm getting real sick of it.

If Joe Biden succeeds in stealing the election, 75 million Americans will rebel. It will get real ugly, real fast.

originally posted by: xuenchen
At least Trump said give the same briefings he gets, unlike the last President did when Trump was coming in 😃🚬

If Biden looks shaken every day, we'll know he got the 100% briefing.

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: LSU2018

..... I remember how the Media forced the White House to take away Donald Trump Jr's, and Jared Kushner's security clearances, for being guilty of something, before they were proved innocent.

You clearly remember that? I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you're having another attack of paranoid delusions. You may want to talk to your doctor about having your medication dosages adjusted.

Here's what actually happened.

Don Jr. was never put up for a security clearance because he has never had a government position that would justify one. During the transition, the compromise that Trump Sr. reached for dealing with potential conflict of interest issues with his business empire was to step back from day-to-day management of it and turn it over to Eric and Don Jr.

On the other hand, he did want Jared to be part of his government team, so he had the White House personnel office create a position for him as a senior advisor. The position description presumably carried with it a requirement for access to classified information. As is common with that kind of position, the requirement was for a Top Secret/Sensitive Compartmented Information (TS/SCI) clearance. So the White House personnel office started the process of obtaining those clearances for Jared.

During my career with the government, I held both of those clearances (and others, as well) and each time I got a new clearance, my security officer would explain to me the process of obtaining it and the laws behind it. So I am speaking from personal experience.

When an individual who doesn't have a security clearance is hired into a position that requires one, that individual immediately begins the process of obtaining one. Continued employment is made conditional on the individual being able to attain a clearance and keep it.

"Executive Order 10450, “Security Requirements for Government Employment,” 18 Federal Register 2489, was issued by President Eisenhower on April 27, 1953. E.O. 10450 established that “the appointment of each civilian officer or employee in any department or agency of the government shall be made subject to investigation.” While E.O. 10450 has been amended by subsequent executive orders, it has never been revoked and remains in effect."

(From fas.org...)

The first step is to fill out a very long and detailed statement of personal history, employment record, criminal history, etc., etc. (Standard Form 86). Investigating agencies then take the information on the form and begin prowling through the applicant's life, looking for any possible derogatory information that might cast doubt on the reliability of the individual. That process can take anywhere from weeks to months to years, depending on a whole range of variables. For senior personnel in the executive branch, they generally take special steps to expedite the process. In the mean time, Jared was apparently given a temporary TS/SCI clearance at the President's direction, while waiting for the final clearances to be granted, after the background investigations were completed. Granting temporary clearances is not illegal or necessarily uncommon.

However, according to news reports Jared had to go back and amend his Standard Form 86 three or four times in the following months because he left out or was dishonest about some information which was immediately detected by the investigators. According to Intelligence Community guidelines 704.1, retaining a temporary TS/SCI clearance requires there to be no unfavorable elements in the SF86 review:

www.dni.gov...

So John Kelly,White House chief of staff, following standard policy, downgraded Jared's clearance to interim Secret, which automatically removed his access to SCI. After a few months, Trump overruled that decision and ordered John Kelly to grant Jared a permanent TS, which Kelly did and documented in a memo for the record.

www.courthousenews.com...

Now, the authority to create and control information classified at the Confidential/Secret/Top Secret levels is considered to flow directly to the POTUS from his constitutional offices of Chief Diplomat and Commander in Chief. It has been that way from George Washington to the current President. The POTUS can grant clearances at any of those levels to anyone he wants to. He can grant that clearance even if the background investigation turns up derogatory information. So Trump Sr. was within his authority to grant a TS clearance to Jared, even though Jared did not meet the standards that would apply so someone who is not a member of Trump's family.

www.theguardian.com...

However, the POTUS does not have exclusive authority to adjudicate access to SCI; under the National Security Act of 1947 and other laws, he is supposed to get the approval of the DNI, and the DNI at the time was Dan Coats. Coats said publicly in 2018 that he thought the White House should not be giving complete access to the most sensitive information to Jared.

In any case, Kushner did not have any clearances taken away by the media. His clearance was downgraded at one point by chief of staff Kelly because his background investigation reportedly turned up derogatory information, and Kelly followed IC Policy Guidance, exactly as he should have. That was until Trump intervened and ordered that Kushner be granted a final TS. Since the derogatory information revealed in Jared's background investigation was never resolved (whatever it was) the DNI would not have recommended he be given SCI access again, once his TS clearance was restored.

As far as I know, that's where it stands. Kushner has a final TS clearance because Trump could do that on his own authority, but I don't think he has an SCI clearance. Of course the White House has refused to release any information that would clarify this, so Jared has not been proven innocent or guilty of anything.

a reply to: 1947boomer
Thanks for filling in the details.

On Monday November 30th, Joe Biden begins receiving the President Intelligence Briefing.

This morning's briefing informed President Trump that he won the election.

Source: twitter.com...

How will Joe Biden react when he sees this information next Monday?

originally posted by: 1947boomer
(snippage)
As far as I know, that's where it stands. Kushner has a final TS clearance because Trump could do that on his own authority, but I don't think he has an SCI clearance. Of course the White House has refused to release any information that would clarify this, so Jared has not been proven innocent or guilty of anything.

Just wanted to add a note of thanks for your excellent explanation.

a reply to: RazorV66

You have amnesia. Trump was impeached by the House!

The Republican majority Senate, loyal to Trump refused to hear any testimony.

It was a complete kangaroo court. The Republican Senators did not want to upset their base demographic, and ignored all evidence.

History will remember this. The stunts Trump.pulled make Nixon look like a saint.

LOOK at this Joe Biden Thanksgiving family photo: twitter.com...

How many Corona-19 violations do you see?