Penguin Random House Staff Confront Publisher About New Jordan Peterson Book

Really?

Now if you are considered "not Progressive enough" they want to censor Book Publishing. What the hell is wrong with these people. It has gotten to the point that if you disagree with the leftest Progressive religion that you "Must" be silenced.

I see this story and wonder why they allow "activist employees" to interfere with business operations.

I am using a leftest news source since it is the only news that is allowed to be true.

www.vice.com...

During a tense town hall, staff cried and expressed dismay with the publishing giant's decision to publish 'Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life.'

“He is an icon of hate speech and transphobia and the fact that he’s an icon of white supremacy, regardless of the content of his book, I’m not proud to work for a company that publishes him,” a junior employee who is a member of the LGBTQ community and who attended the town hall told VICE World News.

Another employee said “people were crying in the meeting about how Jordan Peterson has affected their lives.” They said one co-worker discussed how Peterson had radicalized their father and another talked about how publishing the book will negatively affect their non-binary friend.

To be silenced is violence

a reply to: infolurker

Where’s the town-hall cry-in for Big Tech censorship?

Oh wait. There was one. In SF in front of their buildings and the black guy, the leader of the Free Speech rally got his teeth knocked out by white Antifa cucks. Bc y not?

a reply to: infolurker

Censoring books for political correctness been an ongoing issue for a bit.

www.theguardian.com...

a reply to: infolurker

I am a huge fan of Dr Peterson.

He has helped millions of people around the world lead themselves out of dark places and is a sorely needed voice and perspective in the public discourse.

Anybody who considers him transphobic or a white supremacist has certainly never taken the time to understand his positions and points of view.

People crying. Of course they were...it is the only response of people who have the intellectual aptitude of a four year old and can not coherently make counter arguments to support their narrative with logic, let alone facts.

Sooooo tired of this cancel culture insanity. Cancel cancel culture. Burn them at the stake (metaphorically speaking of course).

a reply to: IAMALLYETALLIAM

Ya know what? Thank you. Had no idea who this is or why is should/shouldn’t be crying in the first. Turns out I read the actual article from Vice. While he may be controversial his advice apparently includes classic hate-speech such as:

“Stand up straight”

And

“Get your own house in order before you criticize the world...”

Still trynna figure out which I’m supposed to cry over.....

To understand the socialist mindset you´ll have to understand their philosophy; socialists believe that everything is taught by society (even gender) and that it is therefore their duty as a "good socialist" to stop any non-leftist ideas being spread. Their reasoning is, in case of racism for example, that if no one ever heard of racism then there will be no racists - they don´t believe that human behaviour is instinctual or from birth, all you are you have learnt from some book etc. No books about racism means no racists to them - just silly. This is why they cancel or censor books.

-MM

He is an icon of hate speech and transphobia.
Because he tells the truth?

He’s an icon of white supremacy.
Because he doesn't agree with you?

Regardless of the content of his book, I’m not proud to work for a company that publishes him.
Then quit your job and go work for a different company.

The LBGQ mafia at work. Funny how they demand acceptance and tolerance, but then want to kill anyone who disagrees with them. What a bunch of jerkoffs.

originally posted by: slatesteam
a reply to: IAMALLYETALLIAM

Ya know what? Thank you. Had no idea who this is or why is should/shouldn’t be crying in the first. Turns out I read the actual article from Vice. While he may be controversial his advice apparently includes classic hate-speech such as:

“Stand up straight”

And

“Get your own house in order before you criticize the world...”

Still trynna figure out which I’m supposed to cry over.....

You are welcome, he is fantastic.

Has a lot of free content available by way of YouTube videos and podcasts.

He seems to cause an allergic reaction in the brains of people whom can't grasp the concept of personal responsibility and conducting yourself righteously in the world.

He also commits the grave sin of suggesting Western values and society are perhaps not the devil but something we should be thankful for whilst also acknowledging its many flaws.

I suggest you start buying the books you're going to miss.

Progressives are going to go on a ban spree. It's what they consider progress.

originally posted by: projectvxn
I suggest you start buying the books you're going to miss.

Progressives are going to go on a ban spree. It's what they consider progress.

And still the socialists says book banning is only Fascism when it´s not them that does it.

-M

It is illogical to put these book burners in charge of publishing books.

Unless there has been a change the publisher is still going to put the book out so kudos to them.

Don't know the author, but even if he was everything he is accussed of I still say publish it let any other ist or ism out themselves rushing to buy it.

Now considering who is crying I seriously doubt any accusation is correct and wish those folks would get help.

This short one minute video nicely demonstrates how the left try to berate Peterson, but go on to embarrass themselves, every, single, time:



As mentioned above, he's helped a great many people through his works, myself included, he's a good man,

a reply to: infolurker

I work indirectly for this company at times. These big meetings happen pretty often on all kinds of would-be best-sellers. They love giving employees a chance to champion an author, or to say, "Are you sure we should publish this?". It never holds much weight either way, it's an inclusivity project.

Now, this happens often that employees say, "Why would you publish this because x and y!?". But you never, ever, ever hear about it because it's not really a factor when it comes to publishing. BUT! When it comes to Peterson, a huge factor in his self-promotion is using others to highlight when people try to censor him.

This is 100% a genius marketing move on Peterson and Penguins part. People who enjoy and support Petersons work will absolutely rally to purchase this book now they've heard some group of people has tried to censor it.

Don't forget that Penguin still advertises where you can purchase Mein Kampf in many countries. They aren't really in the business of censoring printed ideas if they're eloquently written moneymakers, or even badly written (subjectively) moneymakers.

Man, 5 minutes watching any click bait “Peterson Destroys blah blah” vid will clearly show that he’s not everything these f*cking children are claiming.

I’ve really come to enjoy Peterson in the last year. Love the way he speaks and self-edits on the fly. The Rogan podcast he did with both Peterson and Brett Weinstein was AWESOME and I recommend it to any and everyone. Several times Peterson had to pause and say “Give me a moment, I’m at the peak of my intellectual grasp on things and I don’t want to say the wrong thing” and even tried changing a subject at one point out of fear he was tapped mentally and didn’t want to say the wrong thing.

Dude has a lot of heart and great insight into things.

a reply to: infolurker

To be silenced is violence

What’s being silenced? The book is being published.

Or did you not read the article?

Several employees spoke against it at a town hall the company held about pushing the book. Several means 3. Lmao.

Please explain to me how right wing voices are being silenced by Random House by publishing a book by Jordan Peterson. The only thing I see here is fragile conservatives screaming that the sky is falling because three people at a company disagreed with Peterson’s book being published. Which is being published anyway.

It’s a constant source of amusement just how fragile the right wing has become.

a reply to: underwerks

What's fragile is the Progressive mind. It is the tendency of Progressives to ban ideas and the people spreading them as a means of maintaining ideological fundamentalism.

a reply to: Atsbhct

You have to feel for the children who work there though.

Take it from someone who works in editorial -- you have to actually read the work you edit and proof. For a woke leftist, that means being exposed to thought that is simply beyond that pale when you're talking about a publishing house that still dares to not tow the line.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Atsbhct

You have to feel for the children who work there though.

Take it from someone who works in editorial -- you have to actually read the work you edit and proof. For a woke leftist, that means being exposed to thought that is simply beyond that pale when you're talking about a publishing house that still dares to not tow the line.

I don't know. You work in the field, so you would probably see through what's going on with this story. I know most people I encounter in publishing/editing are pretty "pro-book".

That being said, I think it's more nuanced than the Vice story, and definitely the stories rehashing the Vice story, make it out to be. Penguin is a super inclusive workplace, and people who work there understand that lots of material is going to get published that they don't agree with. A few people got upset telling personal stories about how Petersons ideas have affected them/their loved ones. Which, I'm sure people have openly used Petersons points to say rude things to LGBT people, because people are rude.

I also can't see Penguin forcing anyone to edit or even read the book if they didn't want to. I would imagine Peterson had a dedicated team to edit the book that he or his agent signed off on who had worked on other books of ideologies.

I just find it so weird that this even got out because 1) Penguin is known to hammer down on NDA's, and 2) It's a non story, it's just what happens in publishing. Books get shut down everyday, but this one didn't.

I'm just so suspect of why this would even get out.

I think either they leaked it to promote the book; OR, maybe more nefarious, they leaked it so they could have plausible deniability and virtue within the LGBT communities. Maybe both.

a reply to: infolurker

Burning books leaves a carbon footprint.

So censorship is actually better for the environment.