Congressional Dems condemn execution of man convicted of heinous abuse, rape and murder of child

a reply to: chr0naut

Yea, it definitely can but with todays technology, should add plenty of discernment, and there always the potential for abuse.

Also, depending on which prison an how the prison populace feels about, or had similar experience from someone else, an it not what they are in their for. It would be a mercy compared to other scenarios.

Or we could just keep them in a nice safe cell, where they could be reformed or go even more bonkers at the tax payers expense.

Your right two wrongs don't make it right, but it would be even.

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: SleeperHasAwakened

I totaly understand how you feel, I'll just say, you spend more on executions than you do life sentences.

A rope cost,what 5 bucks? bullets are cheap too. We can do it so much cheaper. We should export them to china for execution.

Ya, and yet rule of law applies, not feelings, so, while I get the idea of stringing a deserving mofo up..its not how it works..we are dealing with reality, not 1850's old west frontier. Check out how much it cost to go through the automatic appeals in DP cases.

Anyway..off to work, will check the thread later.

originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: SleeperHasAwakened

I totaly understand how you feel, I'll just say, you spend more on executions than you do life sentences.

A rope cost,what 5 bucks? bullets are cheap too. We can do it so much cheaper. We should export them to china for execution.

Ya, and yet rule of law applies, not feelings, so, while I get the idea of stringing a deserving mofo up..its not how it works..we are dealing with reality, not 1850's old west frontier. Check out how much it cost to go through the automatic appeals in DP cases.

Anyway..off to work, will check the thread later.

If you get sentenced to death there should be no appeals. Immediate execution should follow. because no one has time or money to babysit a convicted killer.

a reply to: vonclod

Touchee, but I submit the cost of executions is rooted in needless litigation and exploitation of open and shut legal matters by attorneys to enrich themselves.

There is no basis for any kind of appeal, review or legal controversy here. The facts of this case are cut and dried.

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: SleeperHasAwakened

I totaly understand how you feel, I'll just say, you spend more on executions than you do life sentences.

A rope cost,what 5 bucks? bullets are cheap too. We can do it so much cheaper. We should export them to china for execution.

^^^^^
Genius. Best use of the term "outsourcing" I've ever heard.

Nothing but state sanctioned revenge??

Yep. The victims family can not take their revenge without becoming criminals. So the state has been told that they can do so.

I'm not a fan of the death penalty...usually. It's far too readily used, and mistakes happen. You can't undo it.

However, in this case, over a quarter of a century went by with no further information being found. The crime was especially heinous...so, no real issue here. He's answering to a much higher authority now.

originally posted by: SleeperHasAwakened
a reply to: vonclod

Touchee, but I submit the cost of executions is rooted in needless litigation and exploitation of open and shut legal matters by attorneys to enrich themselves.

There is no basis for any kind of appeal, review or legal controversy here. The facts of this case are cut and dried.

I'm not really talking about this dude, just general principal, the appeals are automatic under a death sentence.

Mine and a few others arguments aren't for this POS, it's because we don't trust the govt and a flawed justice system to get it absolutely right. The current estimate is 4% of people on death row are in fact innocent.

a reply to: TKDRL

why would you be against the death penalty for this piece of filth

originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: SleeperHasAwakened
a reply to: vonclod

Touchee, but I submit the cost of executions is rooted in needless litigation and exploitation of open and shut legal matters by attorneys to enrich themselves.

There is no basis for any kind of appeal, review or legal controversy here. The facts of this case are cut and dried.

I'm not really talking about this dude, just general principal, the appeals are automatic under a death sentence.

Mine and a few others arguments aren't for this POS, it's because we don't trust the govt and a flawed justice system to get it absolutely right. The current estimate is 4% of people on death row are in fact innocent.

It's interesting to me how the left leaning don't trust the government ... until they do.

Government can run out entire health care system. Government can control all of our education. It's awesome at those things.

But the left leaning don't trust the justice system any further than they they can throw it.

How is that that the government can absolutely be trusted with the first two, but not the latter?

a reply to: Steveogold
Because I am against the death penalty.....

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: SleeperHasAwakened
a reply to: vonclod

Touchee, but I submit the cost of executions is rooted in needless litigation and exploitation of open and shut legal matters by attorneys to enrich themselves.

There is no basis for any kind of appeal, review or legal controversy here. The facts of this case are cut and dried.

I'm not really talking about this dude, just general principal, the appeals are automatic under a death sentence.

Mine and a few others arguments aren't for this POS, it's because we don't trust the govt and a flawed justice system to get it absolutely right. The current estimate is 4% of people on death row are in fact innocent.

It's interesting to me how the left leaning don't trust the government ... until they do.

Government can run out entire health care system. Government can control all of our education. It's awesome at those things.

But the left leaning don't trust the justice system any further than they they can throw it.

How is that that the government can absolutely be trusted with the first two, but not the latter?

You have a bad habit of putting words in peoples mouth's, or deciding who or what they think, STOP IT!!!..who are you talking about..me?? trusting govt???

I'm thinking stuff a pineapple up his arse and leave bound in a fire ant bed with Nickleback playing at deafening volume.

a reply to: trollz

Democrats are okay with ending the lives of innocent unborn humans but have issues with vile humans who commit crimes.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: trollz

Democrats are okay with ending the lives of innocent unborn humans but have issues with vile humans who commit crimes.

Sure Mr rights and freedoms..

originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: trollz

Democrats are okay with ending the lives of innocent unborn humans but have issues with vile humans who commit crimes.

Sure Mr rights and freedoms..

I'm all for equal rights, even for those of the unborn.

I'm not for rights for those who infringe upon the rights of others.

I'm just in a pissy mood tonight..tough day at the office. Not going to argue for abortion..I don't think it's my choice though!

I got to agree with the op on this one. That guy should be crucified.

Definitely executed.

a reply to: SleeperHasAwakened

Oh, I remember the Petit murders, I was knocked up with my eldest that summer.

Let's just say if someone ever did that to my family and I was the lone survivor, I'd learn how to fly a plane.

No mercy would be given, for the prison housing someone that got away with it and lived out their life on MY tax dime.

originally posted by: TKDRL
One can be against the death penalty, without defending individual murderers ya know.

No, I disagree with this. Especially in the stupid era of #metoo and #everyonewhodoesn'tthinklikemeisliterallyhitler... Let's put it this way, if it can be argued (and it is often argued) anyone who doesn't agree with BLM is "racist," or anyone who doesn't support abortion is "mysoginist," or anyone who doesn't celebrate Islam is "Islamophobic," then by effing God, if you don't support capital punishment for heinous crimes, you're clearly a goddamn enabler and defender of murderers and other filth.

Glad the asshat in OP's article is dead. He won't be missed by anyone who matters.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: TKDRL
One can be against the death penalty, without defending individual murderers ya know.

No, I disagree with this. Especially in the stupid era of #metoo and #everyonewhodoesn'tthinklikemeisliterallyhitler... Let's put it this way, if it can be argued (and it is often argued) anyone who doesn't agree with BLM is "racist," or anyone who doesn't support abortion is "mysoginist," or anyone who doesn't celebrate Islam is "Islamophobic," then by effing God, if you don't support capital punishment for heinous crimes, you're clearly a goddamn enabler and defender of murderers and other filth.

Glad the asshat in OP's article is dead. He won't be missed by anyone who matters.

Why the f would you care if your thought a racist by morons, because you dont support BLM, or any of your other examples? I dont buy into that sh#t, so..ya, you can be against the death penaly..you really can, without defending murderers.