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How I found and connected with Christ Consciousness

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posted on Nov, 15 2020 @ 11:44 PM
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a reply to: TerryMcGuire

Thanks for sharing a little bit of your story.

I believed once too. And then I had a weird experience which showed me that while something with godlike powers is out there, all the stories we tell about it don't fit, and the words we use don't explain anything, they're just an excuse and a comforting blanket to stop searching and thinking.

Aeterna vigilia pretium libertatis est
Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty

that's from the NATO building in Brussels but also true for life and spiritual matters



posted on Nov, 15 2020 @ 11:51 PM
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a reply to: Peeple


What? He re-enacted the expectations people had waiting for a messiah. He declared himself God. He absolutely wanted to rule. He was definitely no stranger to pleasure.


Absolutely none of the above stated holds any truth

You clearly do not understand scripture


He re-enacted the expectations people had waiting for a messiah.


Really? No the exact opposite in fact...
Hence the very reason his own people rejected him.


He declared himself God


Although JESUS CHRIST was "GOD" in the flesh he declared himself equal to GOD...
He was not blaspheming he was speaking Truth.


He absolutely wanted to rule.


Rule how? He did not want to rule by force, in fact he said that force was not the way. JESUS was & is the only KING to date in the history of the world that did not obtain his kingdom through force, violence, & bloodshed, (JESUS himself, not men who used his name to establish kingdoms) All he wanted to rule & overcome was death, spiritual death & sin for everyone to have salvation and he did indeed accomplished that


He was definitely no stranger to pleasure.


The OP said

"pleasures of life"

[Ie. ] sinful-worldly pleasures
JESUS was tempted in every way we are, yet without sin...
So the OP was correct in that statement

So my question to you is.
What is your quarrel with JESUS/Christianity???

Seeing as how you try to personally attack every post about the subject an
make & take it so personal

It seems to be a deeper issue for you on a personal level...

Half the time you speak as if you believe in GOD but then other times you speak as if you don't

GOD said
"Choose this day whom you will serve"

So I'm not so sure if you're serious?
or just a waste of time troll?

Either way I'll pray for you
May GOD bless you and keep you always
and may GOD open your eyes, ears & heart to the truth
In JESUS name Amen...
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posted on Nov, 16 2020 @ 12:13 AM
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a reply to: DustybudzZ

That's also pissing me off "amen" you filthy human scum think it's okay to tell God "so be it"



posted on Nov, 16 2020 @ 12:17 AM
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Everything is beyond our control, if we were to control our lives it world take all of our time. God is thinking of us.



posted on Nov, 16 2020 @ 12:24 AM
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Thinking of my post, the sense of being in control is ego.



posted on Nov, 16 2020 @ 05:48 AM
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Thank you All for participating in our discussions.

^_^



posted on Nov, 16 2020 @ 06:09 AM
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a reply to: TerryMcGuire



I think that ''thinking about something is better for me than believing in something. In a way it stops short of being a belief.


You have stopped filling the bucket with water but why have you left the tap running? When your "me" is free of the minds projection it is receptive to the stillness that exists beyond mind.



posted on Nov, 16 2020 @ 06:32 AM
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TL
R: You will only be able to know the mind of Jesus until you you get to know the HEART of God....

Christianity 101

Love Yas, have a nice day



posted on Nov, 16 2020 @ 07:27 AM
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originally posted by: iammrhappy86
...my Truth...

Truth is neither relative nor subjective. It's absolute. Some belief about God or Jesus for example is either right/true or wrong/false (more on that in the article below, and then you'll see why I used the synonym "right" there; see bolded part). The expression "my Truth" reminds me of the attitude expressed in this song:

Regarding the text from Proverbs quoted in my signature:

“The Shrewd One Considers His Steps”

A SHREWD person is practical and clever, sound in judgment and sharp in perception, judicious and prudent, discerning and wise. He is neither devious nor manipulative. “Everyone shrewd will act with knowledge,” states Proverbs 13:16. Yes, shrewdness, or prudence, is a desirable trait.

How can we display shrewdness in our day-to-day life? How is this quality made evident by the choices we make, the way we treat others, and the way we respond to various situations? What rewards do the prudent reap? What calamities do they avoid? King Solomon of ancient Israel gives practical answers to these questions, as we read at Proverbs 14:12-25.

Choose Your Course Wisely

Making wise choices and being successful in life certainly require the ability to distinguish what is right from what is wrong. However, the Bible warns: “There exists a way that is upright before a man, but the ways of death are the end of it afterward.” (Proverbs 14:12) [whereislogic: Alternate rendering: “There is a way that seems right to a man, but in the end it leads to death.” Which brings us back to the attitude expressed in the Frank Sinatra song "My Way" and in the expression "my Truth".] Hence, we must learn to differentiate what is truly right from what appears to be right. The expression “the ways of death” indicates that there are many such deceptive paths. Consider some areas that we should be aware of and avoid.

The rich and famous of the world are generally viewed as respectable people to be admired. Their social and financial success may make it seem that their way of doing things is right. What, though, about the means that many of such individuals use to gain wealth or fame? Are their ways always upright and moral? Then there are some individuals who display admirable zeal for their religious beliefs. But does their sincerity really prove that their beliefs are right?​—Romans 10:2, 3.

Romans 10:2,3

For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to accurate knowledge. 3 For because of not knowing the righteousness of God but seeking to establish their own, they did not subject themselves to the righteousness of God.

"Seeking to establish their own", sound familiar again? Let's continue with the article:

A way may also appear upright because of self-deception. To base our decisions on what we personally feel is right is to depend upon the heart, a treacherous guide. (Jeremiah 17:9) An unenlightened and untrained conscience can lead us into thinking that the wrong way is the right way. What, then, will help us to choose a proper course?

Diligent personal study of the deeper truths of God’s Word is a must if we are to acquire “perceptive powers trained to distinguish both right and wrong.” Moreover, we must train these powers “through use” in applying Bible principles. (Hebrews 5:14) We must be careful not to allow a way that merely seems to be right to cause us to veer off ‘the cramped road leading into life.’​—Matthew 7:13, 14.

Jeremiah 17:9

The heart is more treacherous* [Or “deceitful.”] than anything else and is desperate.* [Or possibly, “incurable.”]

Who can know it?


Hebrews 5:11-14

We have much to say about him [Jesus], and it is difficult to explain, because you have become dull in your hearing. 12 For although by now* [Lit., “in view of the time.”] you should be teachers, you again need someone to teach you from the beginning the elementary things of the sacred pronouncements of God, and you have gone back to needing milk, not solid food. 13 For everyone who continues to feed on milk is unacquainted with the word of righteousness, for he is a young child. 14 But solid food belongs to mature people, to those who through use have their powers of discernment* [Or “their perceptive powers.”] trained to distinguish both right and wrong.

Matthew 7:13,14

“Go in through the narrow gate, because broad is the gate and spacious is the road leading off into destruction, and many are going in through it; 14 whereas narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are finding it.

When “the Heart May Be in Pain”

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The Faithless and the Good​—Satisfied How?

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Do Not ‘Put Faith in Every Word’

Contrasting the ways of the inexperienced with those of the prudent, Solomon says: “Anyone inexperienced puts faith in every word, but the shrewd one considers his steps.” (Proverbs 14:15) The shrewd one is not gullible. Rather than believing everything he hears or letting others do his thinking for him, he considers his steps wisely. Gathering all available facts, he acts with knowledge.

Take, for example, the question, “Is there a God?” The inexperienced one is inclined to go along with what is popular or with what prominent people believe. The shrewd one, on the other hand, takes time to examine the facts. He reflects on such scriptures as Romans 1:20 and Hebrews 3:4. In spiritual matters, a prudent person does not just accept the word of religious leaders. He ‘tests the inspired expressions to see whether they originate with God.’​—1 John 4:1.

How wise it is to heed the advice not to ‘put faith in every word’! Those entrusted with the responsibility to counsel others in the Christian congregation must especially take this to heart. The counselor must have the complete picture of what has transpired. He must listen well and gather facts from all sides so that his counsel is not unsound or one-sided.​—Proverbs 18:13; 29:20.

“The Man of Thinking Abilities Is Hated”

Pointing to yet another difference between the wise and the foolish, the king of Israel says: “The wise one fears and is turning away from badness, but the stupid is becoming furious and self-confident. He that is quick to anger will commit foolishness, but the man of thinking abilities is hated.”​—Proverbs 14:16, 17.

The wise person fears the consequences of following a wrong course. Therefore, he is cautious and appreciates any counsel that helps him to avoid badness. The stupid one does not have such fear. Being self-confident, he arrogantly ignores the counsel of others. Prone to becoming furious, such a person acts foolishly. But how is it that a man of thinking abilities becomes an object of hostility?

The original-language expression translated “thinking abilities” has two meanings. In a positive sense, it can denote discernment or cleverness. (Proverbs 1:4; 2:11; 3:21) Or negatively, the phrase can refer to wicked ideas or malicious thinking.​—Psalm 37:7; Proverbs 12:2; 24:8.

If the expression “the man of thinking abilities” refers to a malicious schemer, it is not difficult to see why such a person is hated. However, is it not true that a man of discernment may also be hated by those lacking this quality? For example, those who exercise their mental faculties and choose to be “no part of the world” are hated by the world. (John 15:19) Christian youths who exercise their thinking abilities and stand up to unwholesome peer pressure in order to avoid improper behavior are ridiculed. The fact is that true worshippers are hated by the world, which is lying in the power of Satan the Devil.​—1 John 5:19.

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posted on Nov, 16 2020 @ 08:21 AM
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originally posted by: iammrhappy86
...my Truth...

Three 16th-Century Truth Seekers​—What Did They Find?

“WHAT is truth?” That was the question that Pontius Pilate, Roman governor of Judea in the first century, asked of Jesus, who was on trial before the governor. (John 18:38) Pilate, of course, was not really seeking the truth. If anything, his question revealed his skeptical or cynical attitude. Apparently, to Pilate truth was whatever a person might choose or was taught to believe; there was really no way to determine what is truth. Many today feel the same way.

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Can you see the connection between the notion that truth is whatever a person might choose to believe and the expression "my Truth"?

“What Is Truth?”

THAT question was cynically posed to Jesus by the Roman Governor Pontius Pilate. He was not interested in an answer, and Jesus did not give him one. Perhaps Pilate viewed truth as too elusive to grasp.​—John 18:38.

This disdainful attitude toward truth is shared by many today, including religious leaders, educators, and politicians. They hold that truth​—especially moral and spiritual truth—​is not absolute but relative and ever changing. This, of course, implies that people can determine for themselves what is right and what is wrong. (Isaiah 5:20, 21) [whereislogic: coming back to the expression "my Truth" again] It also allows people to reject as out-of-date the values and moral standards held by past generations.

The statement that prompted Pilate’s question is worth noting. Jesus had said: “For this I have been born, and for this I have come into the world, that I should bear witness to the truth.” (John 18:37) Truth to Jesus was no vague, incomprehensible concept. He promised his disciples: “You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”​—John 8:32.

Where can such truth be found? On one occasion, Jesus said in prayer to God: “Your word is truth.” (John 17:17) The Bible, written under divine inspiration, reveals truth that provides both reliable guidance and a sure hope for the future​—everlasting life.​—2 Timothy 3:15-17.

Pilate indifferently rejected the opportunity to learn such truth. What about you? ...

Continuing with the previous article, keeping Jesus' statement above about God's written word, the Bible, in mind:

Churchgoers in 16th-century Europe faced the dilemma of what to believe as truth. Raised to believe in the supremacy of the pope and in other teachings of the church, they were confronted with new ideas spread by the Reformation, which was sweeping through Europe at the time. What should they believe? How would they decide what is truth?

During that period, there were, among many others, three men who were determined to seek out the truth.* How did they go about identifying what was true and what was false? And what did they find? Let us see.

“LET THE BIBLE . . . ALWAYS RULE SUPREME”

Wolfgang Capito was a young man with deep religious convictions. A student of medicine, law, and theology, Capito became a parish priest in 1512 and then chaplain to the archbishop of Mainz.

At first, Capito tried to soften the zeal of Reformers who preached a message contrary to Catholic dogma. Soon, however, Capito himself began to advocate reform. What did he do? When confronted with various teachings, Capito believed that “the best source with which to judge their preaching was the Bible, for only it was certain,” writes historian James M. Kittelson. Capito thus concluded that the church teachings on transubstantiation and the veneration of saints were unscriptural. (See the box “See Whether These Things Were So.”) Abandoning his prominent post with the archbishop in 1523, Capito settled in the city of Strasbourg, a center of religious reform at the time.

The Capito home in Strasbourg became a place where religious dissenters met and no doubt discussed many religious matters and Bible teachings. Though some Reformers still promoted the Trinity doctrine, Capito’s writings, according to the book The Radical Reformation, reflect “reticence on the doctrine of the Trinity.” Why? Capito was impressed by the way that Spanish theologian Michael Servetus appealed to Bible texts to disprove the Trinity.* [See the article “Michael Servetus​—A Solitary Quest for the Truth”.]

Denial of the Trinity could bring fatal consequences, so Capito was cautious about declaring his feelings openly. However, his writings suggest that he had privately questioned the Trinity doctrine even before he met Servetus. A Catholic priest later wrote that Capito and his associates “proceeded to discuss in their private capacity, and without appeal,​—the profoundest mysteries of religion; [and] rejected that of the most Holy Trinity.” A century later, Capito was listed first among prominent anti-Trinitarian writers.

Capito believed that the Bible was the source of truth. “Let the Bible and the law of Christ always rule supreme in theology,” he stated. According to Dr. Kittelson, Capito “insisted that the chief failing of the scholastic theologians lay in their neglect of the Scriptures.”

This earnest desire to learn the truth from God’s Word was shared by Martin Cellarius (also known as Martin Borrhaus), a young man who stayed at the Capito home in 1526.

“KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUE GOD”

Born in 1499, Cellarius was a diligent student of theology and philosophy. He accepted a teaching post in Wittenberg, Germany. Since Wittenberg was the cradle of the Reformation, Cellarius soon became acquainted with Martin Luther and others who wanted to reform church teaching. How could Cellarius distinguish mere human ideas from Scriptural truth?

According to the book Teaching the Reformation, Cellarius believed that true understanding results “from the assiduous reading of Scripture, from frequent comparison of Scripture with itself, and from prayer joined with repentance.” What did Cellarius find in his examination of the Bible?

In July 1527, Cellarius published his findings in a book entitled On the Works of God. He wrote that church sacraments, such as transubstantiation, were purely symbolic. According to Professor Robin Barnes, Cellarius’ book also “put forward an interpretation of scriptural prophecies in which a coming period of general calamity and suffering would be followed by a universal renovation and fulfillment.”​—2 Peter 3:10-13.

Especially noteworthy were Cellarius’ brief remarks regarding the nature of Jesus Christ. Although he did not directly contradict the Trinity, Cellarius distinguished the “Heavenly Father” from “his Son Jesus Christ” and wrote that Jesus was one of many gods and sons of the almighty God.​—John 10:34, 35.

In his book Antitrinitarian Biography (1850), Robert Wallace noted that Cellarius’ writings did not follow the Trinitarian orthodoxy common in the 16th century.* Several scholars thus conclude that Cellarius must have rejected the Trinity. He has been described as one of God’s instruments “in inculcating a knowledge of the true God and of Christ.” [*: Regarding Cellarius’ use of the word “god” when applied to Christ, the book states: “It is printed deus, and not Deus, the latter being used only to designate the Supreme God.”]

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posted on Nov, 16 2020 @ 08:38 AM
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HOPE OF A RESTITUTION

In about 1527, Wittenberg also became home to theologian Johannes Campanus, considered to be one of the greatest scholars of his day. Although at the center of religious reform, Campanus became dissatisfied with the teachings of Martin Luther. Why?

Campanus objected to the ideas of both transubstantiation and consubstantiation.* [Consubstantiation is Luther’s teaching that the bread and the wine “coexist” with Christ’s body at the Lord’s Supper.] According to author André Séguenny, Campanus believed that “the Bread as a substance remains always bread, but as a sacrament, it represents symbolically the flesh of the Christ.” At the 1529 Marburg Colloquy, a meeting held to discuss these very questions, Campanus was not permitted to share what he had learned from the Scriptures. Thereafter, he was shunned by his fellow Reformers in Wittenberg.

The Reformers were especially upset by Campanus’ beliefs about the Father, the Son, and the holy spirit. In his 1532 book Restitution, Campanus taught that Jesus and his Father are two distinct persons. The Father and Son “are one,” he explained, only as a husband and wife are said to be “one flesh”​—united, yet still two persons. (John 10:30; Matthew 19:5) Campanus noted that the Scriptures use the same illustration to show that the Father has authority over the Son: “The head of a woman is the man; in turn, the head of the Christ is God.”​—1 Corinthians 11:3.

What about the holy spirit? Again, Campanus appealed to the Bible, writing: “With no Scripture may it be adduced that the Holy Spirit is the third person . . . The spirit of God is taken in an operative sense, in that He prepares and carries out all things through his spiritual power and activity.”​—Genesis 1:2.

Luther called Campanus a blasphemer and an adversary of God’s Son. Another Reformer called for Campanus’ execution. Yet, Campanus was undeterred. According to The Radical Reformation, “Campanus was convinced that the loss of this originally apostolic and biblical understanding of the Godhead and of man accounted for the fall of the Church.”

It was never Campanus’ intention to organize a religious group. He had sought in vain for truth, he said, “among the sects and all the heretics.” So he hoped that the Catholic Church, by means of a restitution, would reinstate true Christian teaching. Eventually, however, Catholic authorities arrested Campanus, and he may have spent upwards of 20 years in prison. Historians believe that he died in about 1575.

“MAKE SURE OF ALL THINGS”

Diligent study of the Bible enabled Capito, Cellarius, Campanus, and others to distinguish truth from error. Even though not all of the conclusions reached by these truth seekers were in full harmony with the Bible, these men humbly searched the Scriptures and treasured the truth that they learned.

The apostle Paul urged his fellow Christians: “Make sure of all things; hold fast to what is fine.” (1 Thessalonians 5:21) To help you in your search for truth, Jehovah’s Witnesses have published a book with the appropriate title What Does the Bible Really Teach?

I want to do the box there as well, but I'll have to make some adjustments to the layout cause I don't know how to use the same one.

“See Whether These Things Were So”

What enabled Capito, Cellarius, Campanus, and others to reject certain church teachings? They did what the first-century Beroeans did, who examined the Scriptures carefully “to see whether these things were so.” (Acts 17:11) Here are some of the three Reformers’ findings:

CHURCH TEACHING: Saints may be venerated as intercessors with God.

WHAT THE SCRIPTURES SAY: “There is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus.”​—1 Timothy 2:5.

CHURCH TEACHING: Infants should be baptized.

WHAT THE SCRIPTURES SAY: “When they believed . . . both men and women were getting baptized.”​—Acts 8:12.

CHURCH TEACHING: Jesus and his Father are equal parts of a Trinity.

WHAT THE SCRIPTURES SAY: “I [Jesus] am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I am.” (John 14:28) “Jesus . . . gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God.”​—Philippians 2:5, 6.

CHURCH TEACHING: At Mass, the bread and the wine offered become Jesus’ flesh and blood.

WHAT THE SCRIPTURES SAY: “Jesus took a loaf, and after saying a blessing, he broke it, and giving it to the disciples, he said: ‘Take, eat. This means my body.’ And taking a cup, he offered thanks and gave it to them, saying: ‘Drink out of it, all of you, for this means my “blood of the covenant.”’”​—Matthew 26:26-28.

Oh, and here are a couple more teachings in Christendom vs what the scriptures actually say, using the same pattern or style of comparison:

One Myth Leads to Another
Myth 1: The Soul Is Immortal

What is the origin of the myth?
“The early Christian philosophers adopted the Greek concept of the soul’s immortality and thought of the soul as being created by God and infused into the body at conception.”​—The New Encyclopædia Britannica (1988), Volume 11, page 25.

What does the Bible say?
“The soul that sinneth, it shall die.”​—Ezekiel 18:4, King James Version.

Regarding the creation of the first human soul, the Bible says: “Jehovah God proceeded to form the man out of dust from the ground and to blow into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man came to be a living soul [Hebrew, neʹphesh].”​—Genesis 2:7.

The Hebrew word neʹphesh, translated “soul,” means ‘a creature that breathes.’ When God created the first man, Adam, He did not infuse into him an immortal soul but the life force that is maintained by breathing. Therefore, “soul” in the Biblical sense refers to the entire living being. If separated from the life force originally given by God, the soul dies.​—Genesis 3:19; Ezekiel 18:20.

The doctrine of the immortality of the soul raised questions: Where do souls go after death? What happens to the souls of the wicked? When nominal Christians adopted the myth of the immortal soul, this led them to accept another myth​—the teaching of hellfire.

Compare these Bible verses: Ecclesiastes 3:19; Matthew 10:28; Acts 3:23

FACT:

At death a person ceases to exist

Myth 2: The Wicked Suffer in Hell

What is the origin of the myth?
“Of all classical Greek philosophers, the one who has had the greatest influence on traditional views of Hell is Plato.”​—Histoire des enfers (The History of Hell), by Georges Minois, page 50.

“From the middle of the 2nd century AD Christians who had some training in Greek philosophy began to feel the need to express their faith in its terms . . . The philosophy that suited them best was Platonism [the teachings of Plato].”​—The New Encyclopædia Britannica (1988), Volume 25, page 890.

“The teaching of the Church affirms the existence of hell and its eternity. Immediately after death the souls of those who die in a state of mortal sin descend into hell, where they suffer the punishments of hell, ‘eternal fire.’ The chief punishment of hell is eternal separation from God.”​—Catechism of the Catholic Church, 1994 edition, page 270.

What does the Bible say?
“For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing, . . . for there is no work or thought or knowledge or wisdom in Sheol, to which you are going.”​—Ecclesiastes 9:5, 10, Revised Standard Version.

The Hebrew word Sheol, which referred to the “abode of the dead,” is translated “hell” in some versions of the Bible. What does this passage reveal about the condition of the dead? Do they suffer in Sheol in order to atone for their errors? No, for they “know nothing.” That is why the patriarch Job, when suffering terribly because of a severe illness, begged God: “Protect me in hell [Hebrew, Sheol].” (Job 14:13; Douay-Rheims Version) What meaning would his request have had if Sheol was a place of eternal torment? Hell, in the Biblical sense, is simply the common grave of mankind, where all activity has ceased.

Is not this definition of hell more logical and in harmony with Scripture? What crime, however horrible, could cause a God of love to torture a person endlessly? (1 John 4:8) But if hellfire is a myth, what about heaven?

Compare these Bible verses: Psalm 146:3, 4; Acts 2:25-27; Romans 6:7, 23

FACT:

God does not punish people in hell

Myth 3: All Good People Go to Heaven
Myth 4: God Is a Trinity
Myth 5: Mary Is the Mother of God
Myth 6: God Approves of the Use of Images and Icons in Worship

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posted on Nov, 16 2020 @ 10:26 AM
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originally posted by: iammrhappy86
...my personal beliefs.
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I was raised catholic but never really got into religion; I had my own faith I'd been building.
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So yeah, I stayed away from religion all my life in my quest for truth, but when I looked deep enough within my own Heart, with purest Intent, I saw Christ smile, and I felt God's comforting approval, and I knew I was Home.

Remember Jehovah's warning about the heart in Jeremiah 17:9 (verse 5 says “This is what Jehovah says:”)? It's quoted in my first reply.

Anyway... I actually wanted to respond to the part about staying away from religion, with some videos:



Regarding the middle video and the topic of "unity of belief" (1:41):

And to follow up on something that is heavily emphasized in the song above (besides unity) and to tie it back into my first response to you concerning how to tell the difference between the right way vs the wrong “way that seems right to a man, but in the end it leads to death.” (Proverbs 14:12)

And to put that into context:

Song 141 Searching for Friends of Peace (playlist)

And this one ties into my 2nd and 3rd reply to you, which also address the subject of how to tell the difference between the right way vs the wrong “way that seems right to a man, but in the end it leads to death.” (Proverbs 14:12) But something is also mentioned about the subject above again (which you said something about in the OP as well):

And to come back to the middle video of the first set of 3 ("Should you belong to a Church? 2 of 2") and the quotation shortly after 3:10:

And this one is just bonus because it's my favorite (it also follows up on the Bible teachings in the song above quite well):

This one follows the one above in the playlist I linked earlier (if we're talking about the right way vs the wrong way, etc., etc., Proverbs 14:12 anyway):

With the Bible quotation that song is based on:

Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater just because False Religion is a Snare and a Racket. (playlist)

And...

"He" is referring to Satan, the ruler of this world and god of this system of things.

Because...

So...

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posted on Nov, 16 2020 @ 04:00 PM
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You ether saw a very bright light, which basically means enlightenment or reality starting to crack or molt. Or you saw a very brightly coloured, positive
vision of Jesus, which means you might be having a seizure.

Or you saw a brightly coloured vision of Jesus or Buddah, transform into a giant red demon or dragon. Which means you pissed off heaven.
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posted on Nov, 16 2020 @ 04:46 PM
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a reply to: Specimen88

I couldn't begin to explain what I saw. It can't be put in words. It is felt and known. Everything comes together as One.



posted on Nov, 16 2020 @ 05:42 PM
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a reply to: Peeple

In one manner or another I think that this whole temporal experience is little more than a comforting blanket. I held with cogiito ergo sum for quite a while as my foundational existential base but then let that slip away as I began reading more about neuro-sciences that postulate that even a the source for thought is suspect. Now, well, maybe something else will pop up for me.



posted on Nov, 16 2020 @ 08:36 PM
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originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: DustybudzZ

That's also pissing me off "amen" you filthy human scum think it's okay to tell God "so be it"


So you think you are not a human???
Well now we see where the problem is coming from



Good luck with your mental illness

FYI: we are not (telling) GOD "so be it" we are (asking) GOD "so be it" in the name of JESUS CHRIST our LORD & SAVIOR
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posted on Nov, 17 2020 @ 12:39 AM
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a reply to: DustybudzZ

What? No. I can say humans are stupid and disgusting that doesn't imply in any way that I think I'm anything else.

You are asking so be it? Sure. How does that work? Can you give me an example where "so be it" is a question?



posted on Nov, 17 2020 @ 05:51 AM
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a reply to: Peeple

I often end my prayers as such. So be it.



posted on Nov, 17 2020 @ 08:22 PM
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you filthy human scum think it's okay to tell God "so be it"


The "You" in the statement implies you was speaking of something that your not


You are asking so be it? Sure. How does that work? Can you give me an example where "so be it" is a question?


Sure...
So if I say
May GOD bless you and keep you.
and open your eyes, ears & heart up to the TRUTH in the name of
JESUS CHRIST (Amen) or "so be it"
I'm asking GOD if it be his will then
"so be it"

Also as believers & children of the most high we have authority through the power & in the name of
JESUS CHRIST to rebuke all evil and to bind or loose anything on heaven & earth according to GOD'S will



posted on Nov, 17 2020 @ 08:34 PM
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a reply to: Peeple

like I said...
I don't look at JESUS CHRIST as a separate or other GOD/Deity

I realize / understand JESUS CHRIST is GOD in the flesh



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