The Wisconsin Elections Commission 2020 Saga

a reply to: Annee

Good point. It does. However, the laws the states establish have to reconcile with the Constitution. In addition, the laws established must be followed. That is the problem here. They weren't.

If the WEC felt the laws binding them were unfair or unjust, they are fully capable of getting change made via the state legislature. Happens all the time in any state with any agency.

They did not do this. That would indicate what was done would not have passed the smell test when run by the legislature, the state and federal constitutions. Ergo, we got what we got.

originally posted by: ABNARTY
a reply to: Annee

Good point. It does. However, the laws the states establish have to reconcile with the Constitution. In addition, the laws established must be followed. That is the problem here. They weren't.

If the WEC felt the laws binding them were unfair or unjust, they are fully capable of getting change made via the state legislature. Happens all the time in any state with any agency.

They did not do this. That would indicate what was done would not have passed the smell test when run by the legislature, the state and federal constitutions. Ergo, we got what we got.

It’s opinion if rules were followed or not.

Trumpster’s are freaking out if someone sneezes.

There’s always a margin for human error. Not intent.

a reply to: ABNARTY

one answer may be to have the same election rules for every state , voter ID should be a requirement . Never Trust a government official for anything . The penalty for voter fraud should be 10 years in prison and vote in person or absentee .

originally posted by: 10uoutlaw
a reply to: ABNARTY

one answer may be to have the same election rules for every state , voter ID should be a requirement . Never Trust a government official for anything . The penalty for voter fraud should be 10 years in prison and vote in person or absentee .

You’d have to change the Constitution.

a reply to: Annee

The constitution only exists when they want it to

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: mtnshredder
Every state needs to be following the EXACT same rules and regulations, period, until that happens expect more of the same and watch our democracy completely disappear as it did this election. What we have now is nothing more than a magic show to give you the illusion of choice.

Doesn’t the Constitution give each state the right to how they run elections?

Actually, no.

It gives each state's LEGISLATURE the right to grant electors.

How a federal election is run is covered in the Federal constitution, covered under Article One.

It SPECIFICALLY does NOT give any other political entity in the state any power in a Federal election at all.

The state Supreme courts, the state Attorney general, the state Governor....

None of those have any Constitutional power over the process.

At all.

Which was by design.

So Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Georgia, Michigan, etc....

They are going to have some 'splainin to do to the SCOTUS.

a reply to: 10uoutlaw

The penalty for voter fraud should be 10 years in prison and vote in person or absentee.

And that goes for the "little" guy dumping ballots in the ditch or garbage can all the way up to the plotters and planners of the Big Scam.

Until we hold all parties that participate in this corruption accountable, from the bottom to the top, and administer the full maximum sentence, it won't stop. It is their culture of lawlessness that makes them have zero conscience about cheating.

a reply to: Annee

They were taken to court for violating their own statutes. That was not an opinion. There is certified evidence they established a confluence of circumstances for voter fraud. Is that evidence of voter fraud itself?

No. An investigation would need to see if those actions precipitated a further unlawful action by others.

Will the state prosecute itself? One agency prosecute another? We know how that goes.

a reply to: Lumenari

I do not know the punitive measures for violating these laws in the state statutes.

"IF" there is prosecution, it may turn out there only fines for the state actors. The DNC may consider this just a cost of doing business. However, this ties into federal election laws. DOJ could get involved.

originally posted by: Annee
It’s opinion if rules were followed or not.

Ummm, no, this is actually and demonstrably true that their own laws were violated.

Trumpster’s are freaking out if someone sneezes.

Ummm, no, it is the never-Trumpers that are petrified by the fake plandemic aka COVID.

originally posted by: 10uoutlaw
a reply to: Annee

The constitution only exists when they want it to

This is true