What we know

Obviously the presidential race is in the air right now... If the current leads stick trump will be a two term president...
I have a feeling loads of mail in ballots will magically be discovered with 95% of them biden votes... Just watch...

But I'm talking about the rest of the election..

The blue wave was more like a pebble dropped in the tidy bowl.
There will be no Supreme Court packing.
Republicans gained in one branch and maintained control of the other.

Ohio was polled to be a 5 point biden win and is at least a 5 point biden loss.
Polls should be ignored...end of story..
Biden was the clear favorite and that was totally wrong.

That's what we know...
Did i miss anything?

a reply to: Bluntone22

Mathematically speaking, trump will win. Even if the remaining votes came in at 75% democrat. He wins PA, MI, GA, and more than likely NC.... maybe even Nevada; that gives him more than enough to win.

The fact people can’t see the bias on all outlets is insane. I have screenshots from 4 different sites throughout the night, it is very telling.

originally posted by: Bluntone22
Obviously the presidential race is in the air right now... If the current leads stick trump will be a two term president...
I have a feeling loads of mail in ballots will magically be discovered with 95% of them biden votes... Just watch...

But I'm talking about the rest of the election..

The blue wave was more like a pebble dropped in the tidy bowl.
There will be no Supreme Court packing.
Republicans gained in one branch and maintained control of the other.

Ohio was polled to be a 5 point biden win and is at least a 5 point biden loss.
Polls should be ignored...end of story..
Biden was the clear favorite and that was totally wrong.

That's what we know...
Did i miss anything?

Yeah, that we all knew ahead of time that the polls were lies and an attempt to affect the election by the fake news, just like in 2016. What was it this year for a Biden win? Something like 90% "probability" again? The only thing I am surprised about is that Trump didn't win bigger and take more western states.

a reply to: Bluntone22

It seems like something like 40 million more people voted this year. This # seems super off.

My confidence in the process has wained no matter how this plays out. I'm seeing all over were one or two counties here and there are deciding the entire states. I know more populous but when they remain unreported till the entire state has reported ahead gives the appearance that they are waiting to see if they can count and discard votes to make up the difference to put Biden over the top. Is it a coincidence that states that are traditionally blue or Red can be called minutes after the polls close and the battleground states take days and most relying on one or two counties that happen to be leftist strongholds?

I am considering my options as a business owner whether its worth it to every four years hope and pray on a system with zero transparency on whether business ownership is even a viable option anymore.

We know this result was not only anticipated...but planned and orchestrated by the DNC.
The army of election lawyers they hired weeks ago show this.

a reply to: tinktinktink


I COMPLETELY agree. It seems like a lot of well known leftist counties are waiting out the majority of the vote so they can release "ideal" numbers.

a reply to: tinktinktink

Its not unusual at all major metropolitan areas will have more votes to count. So its not surprising they take longer.

Good summary

I have never watched an election this closely, but to my eyes, there was a huge degree of volatility last night in the updates, swings, percentages, etc etc. I have never seen such disagreement among news outlets and information sources for election results.

This is the second consecutive election for POTUS that the pollsters have been laughably, not even laughably but almost CRIMINALLY inaccurate. Reports of Biden being up 10 points in several different states right up to election night once again amount to utter rubbish.

At some point, in a fair system, this huge departure from reality and clear/blatant inaccuracy in polling would be analyzed under a microscope, the systems involved scrutinized to a) see if they can or cannot be improved and b) find out if there is any intent behind the wildly misleading poll numbers favoring the Democratic candidate. If the methodologies are flawed, try to fix them. If there is no effort to fix them, FIND OUT WHY. This sounds suspiciously like a psychological tactic to overwhelm/swamp the consciousness of voters for WEEKS leading up to the election that one candidate is WAY out in front, to elicit a certain voter response.

Do people honestly accept being lied to?? It doesn't make you in the LEAST bit angry that there are people whose job, and well-paying jobs they are, it is to blow smoke up your hiney?

I don't follow polls anyway, but many folks do, and these polls are utilized as talking points and ammunition to snipe candidates in the days and weeks leading up to the elections. It's very convenient to, say, slam Trump's position on (pick anything) trade or immigration, point to the election polls, and then declare "SEE!? He is trailing Biden by 10 points in Wisconsin! People don't agree with his policies, they are wrong, and here is why....

The polling is just another in a large tool box of misinformation and deception that MSM can pull out and use to construct false narratives.

Watching this from across the pond I’m amazed they’ve stopped counting! Why would you do that? They’ve known there’s going to be an election for four years why not prepare to count until finished. I’m not surprised the republicans aren’t happy

originally posted by: SeektoUnderstand
Mathematically speaking, trump will win. Even if the remaining votes came in at 75% democrat. He wins PA, MI, GA, and more than likely NC.... maybe even Nevada; that gives him more than enough to win.

Except for the fact that over 200,000 Biden votes just magically appeared in MI, which coincidentally was juuuust enough to flip MI towards Biden.

a reply to: trollz

I did say “mathematically”..... but logical, and honest math and science only exists to further agendas it seems.

a reply to: trollz


200k with 1% increase seems legit.

they hired those lawyers because they KNEW trump would pull this STUNT...ALL THE VOTES MUST BE COUNTED whether you or trump like it......the vote is NOT decided by just the same day vote in person votes...get over it and stop believing trumps lies

originally posted by: IAMTAT
We know this result was not only anticipated...but planned and orchestrated by the DNC.
The army of election lawyers they hired weeks ago show this.

they are a mix of mail in and absentee ballots...you know absentee ballots that you repubs were SUPPOSEDLY good with......so you think 200,000 fake ballots just magically appeared??? fake ballots are much harder to make then you would think.....do you not understand that the same day vote in person votes are counted first which are mostly republican so OF COURSE the number will start to favor trump....then they start to count the absentee and mail ballots which are more democrats...the fact that you people do not understand this is not lost on me...it is VERY telling

this is EXACTLY what trump wants...he has lied and lied to YOU about voter fraud

do you people realize that pennsylvania has the toughest voting laws so they end up with the MOST DISCOUNTED mail in ballots? of course you don't know..you don't do the research you just believe every lie trump throws out there

Pennsylvania is leaning pink towards trump but there are millions of mail in and absentee ballots to be counted and it can't be called until ALL THE VOTES ARE COUNTED

originally posted by: trollz

originally posted by: SeektoUnderstand
Mathematically speaking, trump will win. Even if the remaining votes came in at 75% democrat. He wins PA, MI, GA, and more than likely NC.... maybe even Nevada; that gives him more than enough to win.

Except for the fact that over 200,000 Biden votes just magically appeared in MI, which coincidentally was juuuust enough to flip MI towards Biden.

they haven't stopped counting...they counted the in person election day ballots now they are counting all the mail provisioanl and absentee ballots there are MILLIONS of them to count so people don't want to call it in the pivotal states......TRUMP screwed up and said he wanted the voting to stop (the polls had closed an hour before) TRUMP LIED and said the counting stopped

originally posted by: redchad
Watching this from across the pond I’m amazed they’ve stopped counting! Why would you do that? They’ve known there’s going to be an election for four years why not prepare to count until finished. I’m not surprised the republicans aren’t happy

How can I check to see if my mail in ballot was recorded the way I voted! I received 2 ballots. One with my 1st name spelled wrong. I mailed in the correctly spelled ballot and it doesn't show up! The one that was misspelled shows up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How can I check to see how it was recorded? If I can't the system is set up for fraud as far as I can tell. Why am I being forced to trust known douche bag Democrats???????????????????

If they try and give that walking corpse (Biden) the election they are going to have serious problems.

so four years of investigations (with substantial evidence to boot) that both Biden and Kamala colluded with China and Russia to win.


To those living voters that thought it ok I want you to watch the news as we go to conflict with the middle east and other areas. Every citizen of other countries and every soldier of our that is killed is on your hands. Every time a company closes to move to china its on your hands. Everytime it cost twice or more as much to fill up the tanks its on your hands. Today I am writing pink slips for 50 employees and closing my business and that too is on your hands.

Celebrate all you want and be happy that you helped in addition to the fix elect a bumbling corrupt 45-year politician to office. And if you think the violence in the cities will go away it's just beginning keep your head down as the major cities become strongholds to gangs (like in Chicago) and illegals innadate the hospitals and you're left without inadequate healthcare and child care. Watch were you step as the large cities begin allowing folks to poop in the streets.

Cuba, China, Venezuala, and Russia are celebrating this day as another Communist country joins their ranks and shares its wealth with them.

Can someone look at how Minnesota went to Biden? It's all red except for the twin cities and Duluth area.

This is why voting is pointless. Entire state votes one way, cuck strongholds vote another and get to control the rest of us?

originally posted by: tinktinktink
Today I am writing pink slips for 50 employees and closing my business and that too is on your hands.

i hope things work out for you. Im sorry to hear you have to shut down.
Its the people that have nothing and want everything free that vote democrat. Because they have nothing, they have no value for the dollar, or value for hard work and respect. And we all suffer for it.