2020 Election Results

I just don't understand about turning the opposite direction when facts are thrown in your face. It's there for people to see yet they fail to recognize it for what it is. Its demented if you ask me, and this is why this land was built on lies. We are already pre programmed to act out irrationally. Some type of altering took place to favor one over the other no doubt.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: GravitySucks

You were saying?

No clue to your point here maybe post more than 3 words...lol

I quoted your post. Are you (or at this point were you) not keeping up with the news?

So, woke up this morning to hear Kay Burley of Sky News here in the UK say "So were the Networks right in calling it for Biden?" There was more, she wasn't questioning whether the Networks (news) got it right, she was literally saying news networks make the final decision....un-effing-believable!
I'm done, not even going to 'sit back with popcorn' to see how all this pans out.......

Sad Rainbows
Jane

There was definitely voter fraud, but to what extent? When ballots were being returned from people born in 1850 then there is no denying there is fraud.

When court orders were ignored to allow observers there is definitely something wrong. When 6K votes are flipped because of "human error" there is something wrong.

I don't know if it would matter and change the election but I do know there was fraud and it needs to be investigated then dealt with so it doesn't happen again.

originally posted by: Grimpachi
There was definitely voter fraud, but to what extent?

The extent of it isn't as important as the intent of it. Regardless it is bad both ways. Any sane individual knows cheating is an advantage.

originally posted by: Grimpachi
There was definitely voter fraud, but to what extent? When ballots were being returned from people born in 1850 then there is no denying there is fraud.

When court orders were ignored to allow observers there is definitely something wrong. When 6K votes are flipped because of "human error" there is something wrong.

I don't know if it would matter and change the election but I do know there was fraud and it needs to be investigated then dealt with so it doesn't happen again.

And you got 71 million Americans who believe the election was stolen.
On top of that we are genuinely concerned that his is a Chinese puppet who will surrender to our new communist masters.
He already sent our jobs away and said they weren’t coming back. He already said he’s taking the semi autos.

We try to leave all that last part out because we hoped the other side was smart enough to see and if you’re not then it just sounds like psychobabble.

I am sure a lot of eyes worldwide were actually paying attention to this election. So you can probably raise your 71 million to a more substantial number of people that believe the election was stolen.

I think you guys are overestimating the numbers, again. You are so focused on one aspect the tunnel vision may as well be called blindness.

There is fraud but to what extent? Is it one state or many, is it a few districts or many? The answers matter because the local elections may be in question. I can see fraud happening in a place like Detroit to favor a governor congressman or senator rather than trying to tip a national election.

Whatever the case be it a grand country spanning conspiracy or a state conspiracy it must be investigated and the evidence has to be solid. Several times I have seen some shady things and thought that it must be corruption and several times I have been wrong. I can't dismiss 150-year-olds voting nor can I dismiss the possibility of a computer hack. The computers have hard copies so that can be checked. Arizona with the marker thing supposedly was counted but that needs to be verified. What about other states?

I am not ready to jump on the wagon and make the claim the election was stolen until I see some definitive evidence.

originally posted by: Grimpachi
I think you guys are overestimating the numbers, again. You are so focused on one aspect the tunnel vision may as well be called blindness.

There is fraud but to what extent? Is it one state or many, is it a few districts or many? The answers matter because the local elections may be in question. I can see fraud happening in a place like Detroit to favor a governor congressman or senator rather than trying to tip a national election.

Whatever the case be it a grand country spanning conspiracy or a state conspiracy it must be investigated and the evidence has to be solid. Several times I have seen some shady things and thought that it must be corruption and several times I have been wrong. I can't dismiss 150-year-olds voting nor can I dismiss the possibility of a computer hack. The computers have hard copies so that can be checked. Arizona with the marker thing supposedly was counted but that needs to be verified. What about other states?

I am not ready to jump on the wagon and make the claim the election was stolen until I see some definitive evidence.

They cheated by millions.
Trump may not be the most votable President ever but you’ve seen his following he’s close.
You add that to the millions that are afraid of China.
Add to he said he was going to take the semiautos. Gun grabbers never win elections.

If you can’t see it you must really hate trump. It’s obvious. We’re handing over America to China. Get all your bitching about the president while you still can. Soon it will cost you to criticize our overlords.

And it’s lame that y’all said that about Putin because it just makes me sound like a sore loser.

a reply to: Guiltyguitarist

I voted for Trump but I am not delusional or part of his cult. A lot of people did not like Trump that was evident to everyone except those too blind to see.

If there are millions of cheated votes then prove it. It should be easy if there are that many fraudulent votes.

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: Guiltyguitarist


If there are millions of cheated votes then prove it. It should be easy if there are that many fraudulent votes.

That will be done in court mate, not on ATS, Reddit or the #ing media.


The #ing state of people these days, unless it has not gone through "the news" it's all bull#. My ass.

a reply to: Xabi87

I am fine with it going through the courts but if there is evidence of fraud on the scale of millions like Guiltyguitarist claims then show it.

He made the claim so where is the evidence.

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: Xabi87

I am fine with it going through the courts but if there is evidence of fraud on the scale of millions like Guiltyguitarist claims then show it.

He made the claim so where is the evidence.

Millions of people are making that claim, and the evidence will be shown in court.

Why so desperate to get it right now, from some randomer on a message forum? Be patient, nobody will become president until the court cases are over.

a reply to: Xabi87

I am fine with waiting but I am still going to call out stupid claims.

And to be clear he said "They cheated by millions." Not millions made the claim.

He also said "If you can’t see it you must really hate trump." yet I voted for him.

Remember the motto Deny Ignorance. Are you against calling out ignorant claims all the time or just for this subject?

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: Guiltyguitarist

I voted for Trump but I am not delusional or part of his cult. A lot of people did not like Trump that was evident to everyone except those too blind to see.

If there are millions of cheated votes then prove it. It should be easy if there are that many fraudulent votes.

That’s what’s so aggravating. Who am I? How can I prove it? All the available evidence is there to anyone who wants to see and I’m sure Trump has more. I guess If he can’t convince the Supreme Court I’ll just have to learn Chinese.

a reply to: Guiltyguitarist

All the available evidence is there to anyone who wants to see

All the evidence is where? Have you seen it yourself? If so where.

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: Xabi87

I am fine with waiting but I am still going to call out stupid claims.

And to be clear he said "They cheated by millions." Not millions made the claim.

He also said "If you can’t see it you must really hate trump." yet I voted for him.

Remember the motto Deny Ignorance. Are you against calling out ignorant claims all the time or just for this subject?

Didn’t mean to make you upset. If I came across that way it’s only because I’m upset because I think we’re watching a Chinese bloodless takeover in slowmotion.
I’ll tell you what man, if Trump can’t convince us that there was massive fraud I will publicly apologize for saying something that I know but can’t tangibly prove.

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: Guiltyguitarist

All the available evidence is there to anyone who wants to see

All the evidence is where? Have you seen it yourself? If so where.

Let me start with this have you seen the 560 votes get stolen in real time on cnn?
Are you aware of hammer or scorecard yet?
Do you know the relationship between Feinstein’s husband and the software company?

If not start there

Can somebody point me in the direction of one of Joe Biden's speeches/announcements during the voting where he said something that really stood out to me. I can't remember his exact words now, it was very brief and almost a throw away remark, but it stood out for me. He said something which alluded to 'everything is going exactly to plan'. It was as though somebody turned up the volume in my ears.
I have tried looking for it as it was posted here somewhere but I can't find it.
Hope somebody can find it for me
Many thanks.

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Jane

a reply to: Guiltyguitarist

Let me start with this have you seen the 560 votes get stolen in real time on cnn?
Are you aware of hammer or scorecard yet?

Haven't heard but just looked it up and nothing shows on either.

Do you know the relationship between Feinstein’s husband and the software company?

That proves what? A relationship?

Whatever evidence you have just post the links because using key words or even your exact words are not finding anything that shows voter fraud.