France and Germany announce lockdowns

originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: Nickn3
We may as well have a great big Covid party and get it over with. Or can you get it more than once?

There have been instances where it has been caught twice..what does it mean, and who do you believe?

Two reasons for reinfections:

1. The virus mutated quickly meaning that the antibodies weren't as effective on a new strain.
2. People don't retain the antibodies. Recent data suggests antibodies are down by 26% in a matter of 4 months.

This is why a vaccine isn't going to be a cure.

originally posted by: Bluntone22

"(CNN)Two of Europe's biggest economies have announced lockdowns in response to spiraling coronavirus case numbers.

France will begin a four-week lockdown on Friday, French Prime Minister Emmanuel Macron said Wednesday.

His declaration came just hours after German Chancellor Angela Merkel also announced a four-week nationwide lockdown starting next Monday."

Well there ya go.
The article even says the death rates are not rising as fast as the infection rate but they are locking down anyways.


The odd part is that schools will remain open...
But then this little gem..

"Under the French lockdown, people will need a certificate to move around. Non-essential businesses, restaurants and bars will be closed."

Papers please!

Germany said the same..
You can't go to a restaurant for an hour to eat but your kid will go to school all day..

This crap is not adding up.

Thoughts?


www.cnn.com...

This is crazy it can't all just be about COVID all the while letting the kids go to school? Makes absolutely no sense.

a reply to: putnam6

Screw the kids!
Like I said, it just doesn’t add up.

a reply to: Bluntone22

This crap is not adding up.

Thoughts?

Sure, it adds up perfectly - they want to destroy the worlds economy and make everyone poor and helpless.

Then.. they will come to save you with Socialism, new laws and acts/bills, and more money borrowed from the private central banks.

Well there ya go.
The article even says the death rates are not rising as fast as the infection rate..

Well who can believe any of the numbers?


I have to say they have their agenda well advanced in France, Germany, Spain, etc. How well would it go over here if you couldn't go outside even to exercise? - well yeah, they did that for a period of time. And it was enforced by the military!


You also couldn't travel more than a certain distance from your house when they finally let you out. There were military on the streets, stopping you and checking your credentials.

People must see the significance of this. Once it has been done, it is much easier to do again in the future.


Their people seem well conditioned to this over there in EU land even with the protests. It wouldn't go over as well over here in the US.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: Nickn3
We may as well have a great big Covid party and get it over with. Or can you get it more than once?

There have been instances where it has been caught twice..what does it mean, and who do you believe?

Two reasons for reinfections:

1. The virus mutated quickly meaning that the antibodies weren't as effective on a new strain.
2. People don't retain the antibodies. Recent data suggests antibodies are down by 26% in a matter of 4 months.

This is why a vaccine isn't going to be a cure.

Let's not freak about reinfections just yet.

It's been very few cases and most reinfections have been mild.

www.forbes.com... vidence/#7ca5ee5e7b09

These cases may be the exception, not the rule. Despite having over 28 million cases of Covid-19 reported worldwide, we haven’t seen a lot of proven reinfections. That could be due to the limitations of our routine testing methods. Only time will tell whether this is the tip of the iceberg as we develop better testing and viral surveillance, but no doubt we will see more of these. The good news, at least, is that in most of these reports, the individuals had milder (or no) illness on the second round; however, the man from Nevada was hospitalized for more severe illness. With so few reported cases, it is hard to draw conclusions on what to expect.

The reinfections appear to be related to different viral strains. When someone gets infected and recovers, they have shown that they can mount an effective response to the virus. We don’t know how long that response lasts. The antibodies that we can measure decline within a couple months, but we also have certain types of cells (memory T-cells) that can retain the ability to surge quickly to attack the virus. Clearly, if the virus is changing ever so slightly, this may make it easier to re-infect – just like influenza viruses.

Reinfections may impact vaccine development and protection. If the virus does change a lot, it is possible that over time, vaccines created for current circulating strains may gradually lose their effectiveness. It is too early to tell, but we may eventually face a situation similar to influenza, where we need boosters on a periodic basis. This may also depend on how much virus remains in circulation around the world. We will have to watch this closely over the next year.

This not about covid, this is about intentional harm of human health and control, this is planned depopulation and you are in it.


And it`s not even about the virus , which i know 99.9% of ATS believe and so you are all getting screwed , we are all getting screwed..


All the things they have done and going to do is about killing the herd.


When i see that people accept the mask use even when it`s harming for health , the only think i can think of is that they will proceed with the killing of us all , nothing can stop it because facts dont seem to mean anything anymore. Poeple will believe the goverment that killing them is for greater good.


////// PUT YOUR MASK ON AND HARM YOURSELF//////


Is that Mask Giving You Lung Cancer? It’s Criminal to Force Children to Wear Masks all Day


A Lesson From the Spanish Flu: Sunshine and Fresh Air are Our Best Friends Right Now

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: Nickn3
We may as well have a great big Covid party and get it over with. Or can you get it more than once?

There have been instances where it has been caught twice..what does it mean, and who do you believe?

Two reasons for reinfections:

1. The virus mutated quickly meaning that the antibodies weren't as effective on a new strain.
2. People don't retain the antibodies. Recent data suggests antibodies are down by 26% in a matter of 4 months.

This is why a vaccine isn't going to be a cure.

Agree'd, I'm sceptical of any vaccine they develop for this.

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: putnam6

Screw the kids!
Like I said, it just doesn’t add up.

I get the NWO and globalist agenda theory but holy hell it's so obvious the excuse doesn't warrant the response, especially since it didn't work the first go-around. I really didn't expect the public to be so nonchalant about it I guess they have been trained well. Who knows maybe that vaccine is just around the corner, lets just hope it's not administered in train cars.

My wild theory here in the US and I guess it applies everywhere. This is opening up some prime real estate most likely at pennies on the dollar. Pretty sure my industry will never be able to fill, the 4-5 high rise buildings nationwide as it did in 2019. And it's small potatoes compared to other industries. So we will have companies consolidating their assets and control and don't countries act that way too.

Amazingly China seems relatively lightly hit all things considered. Making moves on Taiwan and Australia as well as knee-deep in the African continent. The EU using this insures no other nations pull a Brexit, who would bail during this crisis, using it to consolidate their control and power. Also amazingly previous trouble spots have been quiet like North Korea, Venezuela, and especially the middle east. None of that is normal during a 'crisis' its too quiet something is up.

or just COVID insanity is real.

originally posted by: Kenzo

This not about covid, this is about intentional harm of human health and control, this is planned depopulation and you are in it.

then it seems it is a failed planned, if normal population grows about 1% then we should expect a global population growth of 78mil this year. this virus is short some 77 million deaths still.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: Nickn3
We may as well have a great big Covid party and get it over with. Or can you get it more than once?

There have been instances where it has been caught twice..what does it mean, and who do you believe?

Two reasons for reinfections:

1. The virus mutated quickly meaning that the antibodies weren't as effective on a new strain.
2. People don't retain the antibodies. Recent data suggests antibodies are down by 26% in a matter of 4 months.

This is why a vaccine isn't going to be a cure.

Then you better mask up for the rest of your life or let nature take its course. Serious, why bother wearing a mask if it’s futile?

a reply to: chr0naut

You can take this to the bank; People are not going to tolerate mask and lockdowns indefinitely, not happening, at least here in the states.

originally posted by: mtnshredder

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: Nickn3
We may as well have a great big Covid party and get it over with. Or can you get it more than once?

There have been instances where it has been caught twice..what does it mean, and who do you believe?

Two reasons for reinfections:

1. The virus mutated quickly meaning that the antibodies weren't as effective on a new strain.
2. People don't retain the antibodies. Recent data suggests antibodies are down by 26% in a matter of 4 months.

This is why a vaccine isn't going to be a cure.

Then you better mask up for the rest of your life or let nature take its course. Serious, why bother wearing a mask if it’s futile?

I don't have to mask up if there's no virus out in the community. That is the situation at the moment where I live, and it is being monitored closely.

a reply to: chr0naut

Be grateful that’s the case.

a reply to: Bluntone22

Just replying about Germany here.
About the kids staying in school, it kinda makes a little sense. If the kids get covid from school and infect their family that is not going anywhere anyways at the moment, then its all good as long as they stick to masks when out shopping so they keep the covid to themselves. The kids will infect and somewhat get the working parents and people that are mobile in the you have it or had it covid area, but I guess that is kind of saying screw the grandparents though. The lockdowns are not forever... yet.

a reply to: paytaplay

Kids don't tend to be very easy to infect anyways at least the younger ones.

a reply to: Bluntone22

I've been waiting for this...

New brake pipes on the bike, and I'm going to go and rip up the night until I have a fleet of Gendarmes swarming the streets looking for the person with the incredibly loud motorcycle who shouldn't be out and about.

Vive La Revolution!.

Seems Europeans are in the streets over this round.

Media is attributing this to extreme right wing groups, but it's regular folks who are ticked off at the new lock down measures. Poland, Britain, Rome, Spain ... they all have some form of protests ongoing related to the lock downs.

Can you imagine if a year ago somebody posted on here “I heard this from someone in the know: something big is coming our way and we will all get put in lockdown, not allowed to go out, have others over. We lose our jobs, businesses close for good, in fact some people would fear this big thing and beg to be locked up!...we will even do this thing where we have to stay 6 feet apart from other people”. Nobody would believe it, it would be put in the HOAX bin.

But here we are. Some of us thinking it’s going away, but them telling us it’s not and here are some more rules to abide by.

Should we really trust people in power that could not catch a cold?

It’s about training people to show their papers to be outside and alive. Europe wake up!

a reply to: Bluntone22