Absolute Proof the Earth is Round NOT Flat!

a reply to: turbonium1

What utter gibberish is this nonsense supposed to explain?

a reply to: OneBigMonkeyToo

Ive been observing flat earthers for a while and they all operate the same way. Instead of proving their point they ask questions. these questions lead to explinations who spends time explaining it to them only to get another question. Its not about the truth its about hiding the facts on here is a great example. people say something stupid someone takes the time to show why they are wrong only to be hit with another stupid question. If you dont answer stupid question they claim you cant and it shows science is flawed. This is why i started asking questions on his model. Though to be fair they really dont have one.

originally posted by: turbonium1

originally posted by: dragonridr
Now heres were you lie there is no restriction in the ocean in fact you can pay to watch launches from boat they run tours. I for one have considered that myself.

www.star-fleet.tours...

Here is a launch you can see it until it crosses 200,000 ft

You still have NO clue what I've repeatedly explained to you about this. A child could grasp this point, it's so simple....

First of all, you keep showing videos taken from the launch area, which includes along the coastline, as your videos show above. That is the ONLY area we have ever seen or filmed a rocket from, since day one, and ever since then.

Get the point - I do NOT care about videos taken from the launch area, I've told you that many times. That is the only area we HAVE EVER filmed rockets from, and it is completely ridiculous, that you cannot grasp the utter absurdity of it.

I've also told you we are NEVER allowed to go out into the ocean, to 100-300 miles off the coast, along the flight paths of these rockets. You think it's not restricted out there, and call me a liar?

Let's prove who is lying about this, shall we?

ATLANTIC OCEAN: Beginning noon on Sunday, July 10 through the launch, a general exclusion zone will be in effect three miles offshore from the Haulover Canal, near the north end of KSC, and southward to Port Canaveral. Four hours prior to launch, all ocean-going traffic will be restricted from entering an area measured from nine miles north and south of the launch pad and extending 64 miles east into the ocean. An additional three-mile-wide exclusion zone will be extended eastward along the flight path of the Space Shuttle.

www.nasa.gov...

ATLANTIC OCEAN: Beginning at 6 a.m. on Saturday, May 30, and continuing through launch, a general exclusion zone will be in effect three miles offshore from the Haulover Canal, on the northern end of Kennedy Space Center, and southward to Port Canaveral. Four hours prior to launch, all ocean-going traffic will be restricted from entering an area measured from nine statute miles north and south of the launch pad and extending 64 nautical miles east into the ocean. An additional three-mile-wide exclusion zone will be extended eastward along the flight path of the space shuttle.

www.nasa.gov...

“Boats out that far in the ocean are supposed to be monitoring marine band channel 16,” Beutel says. The effort to warn away at-risk boasts is robust: Nine hours prior to launch time, Wallops begins broadcasting a warning on channel 16. Four hours before, a complement of “seven or eight” boats from the U.S. Coast Guard, Coast Guard Auxiliary, and Virginia Marine Police begins patrolling and clearing the launch area. An hour after that, they’re joined by three aircraft—a radar airplane, a spotter airplane, and a helicopter—all on the lookout for stray boats.

space.stackexchange.com...

Now we all know who is lying. Karma's a bitch, isn't it?

originally posted by: dragonridr
Now why do they stop showing you the launch from the ground it gets boring rather quickly. Here is videos where they dont cut away and i think you can tell how much cooler the last video was over these.

"It gets boring" when filming rockets, that's why they all stop filming it after 3-4 minutes, even when it's still in view!!

That's a great excuse, isn't it? Then all we have to do, is film it 100-200 miles off the coast, where it would fly right above us, and that wouldn't be boring at all, either! Oh, right, we're never ALLOWED to go 100-200 miles off the coast, to see and film rockets. It's an 'exclusion zone', or 'restricted zone', or 'no-fly zone'. It's far too 'dangerous' for anyone to go there, except for all the military ships, planes, an choppers, which keep us OUT of the restricted zones!

It's boring, then it's dangerous, and if you really believe all this crap, you are incapable of logic and reason, or in complete denial of being played for a total moron. And, since you now realize that they DO restrict the area, you can spew up their fairy tale excuse for it, that it is for 'safety concerns'!

People like you, who'll buy up this BS excuse, is, in fct, the ONLY reason this fairy tale is still going, strong as ever, for over 50 years now! You'll believe anything they tell you, and turn around, and point at lights moving in the dark sky, and claim they are in 'orbit', totally oblivious to being played for a fool, to accept their 'restricted zone' excuse about 'safety'!

The 'restricted zones' you claimed didn't exist, which I lied about being there, are what you'll now believe are true, because you can't deny they don't exist anymore.

And of course, you'll now believe these 'non-existent' restricted zones are only there, for our 'safety'....


This is the ONLY area where we could easily see and film rockets from, other than at the launch area, the only place we CAN see and film them from. This area has always been 'restricted', and always WILL be 'restricted'.

What's worst of all, is that you would ALREADY HAVE KNOWN that the restricted areas exist, if you'd read your own link about seeing it off the coast!...

Ocean-side will be the location of most boats, which will be viewing the launch and landing from roughly (28.42N, 80.49W), just south of the exclusion zone, offshore on the ocean side of the Cape. This location offers a clear line of sight all the way to the launch and landing pads, and is close to directly under the trajectory for optimal viewing.

If you'd read your own source, you wouldn't have called me a liar, and look like an ignorant fool, afterwards!

It's obvious to anyone with half a brain, that it has nothing to do with our 'safety', of course. Why? Well, look at your videos of a launch, just off the coast, which is, as we know, still IN the ocean. And look at what they say about where the rocket is flying at the time...

This location offers a clear line of sight all the way to the launch and landing pads, and is close to directly under the trajectory for optimal viewing.

They don't have a 'restricted zone' almost directly under the rocket's flight path, just off the coast! Wouldn't it be at least as 'dangerous' in this area, or probably MORE dangerous, than 100-300 miles off the coast? Obviously it would, because rockets have crashed around the launch area, more than all other areas combined.

They have an excuse for that, of course, which is that the 'restricted zones' are where rockets drop their boosters, debris, etc. They drop from over 30,000 feet, and have, or easily COULD have, built in parachutes. Any boat in this area would see debris gently floating down to the ocean, from over 30,000 feet, so even if the boat was DIRECTLY under the falling debris, they would easily avoid being hit by anything. So there goes there last, stupid excuse.

They are so full of crap, it's unbelievable! Get a clue for once.

Aren't those restricted areas at sea to stop sh1t falling on people? And the sound of course!

a reply to: turbonium1





It's like you're deliberately trying not to find out things as well as wilfully ignoring information you're given.

a reply to: dragonridr

From my experience, the ones that aren't trying to milk the gullible have no interest in proving the Earth is flat, they just want to prove they can win an argument. They'll do this by using dishonesty, lies, cherrypicked arguments, not so much moving goalposts as burning them and hiding the remains and using every logical fallacy in the book to try and claim black is white and 2+2=5.

Then there are the unbelievably dumb ones who frankly I'm amazed can use a toilet unaided.

a reply to: OneBigMonkeyToo

Are there any videos that show the entirety of a rocket's journey from earth to outer space?

a reply to: cooperton

Theres plenty... you just have to search a bit...

even videos of cameras strapped to the sides of the rocket.... but of course thats just CGI... Right?

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: cooperton

Theres plenty... you just have to search a bit...

even videos of cameras strapped to the sides of the rocket.... but of course thats just CGI... Right?

No I genuinely want to see it because I have not. Can you post it?

a reply to: cooperton

I did a google search anf got over 1 million (About 1,110,000 results (0.63 seconds) ) in results so if you cnt find one thats very sad. So you want people to educate you i take it but as they say Happiness lies in the joy of achievement and the thrill of creative effort.

Big question. Why isn't the earth flipping from all the big asteroids and such hitting the disk?

originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: cooperton

I did a google search anf got over 1 million (About 1,110,000 results (0.63 seconds) ) in results so if you cnt find one thats very sad. So you want people to educate you i take it but as they say Happiness lies in the joy of achievement and the thrill of creative effort.

I am not teaching anyone anything here.. my specialty is biology which you are avoiding me in debate at the moment in another thread.

I am still uncertain on some aspects of astronomy. I simply asked if anyone knew of a continuous video of a rocket going from earth to outer space...

a reply to: cooperton

All you need to do is search youtube to find a ton of them

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: cooperton

All you need to do is search youtube to find a ton of them

The rocket continues from earth to outer space without stopping the video footage? You guys could make turbo lose the debate if you found one.

originally posted by: cooperton

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: cooperton

All you need to do is search youtube to find a ton of them

The rocket continues from earth to outer space without stopping the video footage? You guys could make turbo lose the debate if you found one.

haha... please nothing can shake that guy and his fantasies...

they've been posted so many times its not even funny anymore...

originally posted by: Akragon

they've been posted so many times its not even funny anymore...

Can you post them again? I just need one. I figured you guys had already found one if it does exist, it would save me a lot of time looking.

Thank you

a reply to: muzzleflash

it is sad that there are still morons out there that think it is flat such that a post like this is necessary.,

originally posted by: cooperton

originally posted by: Akragon

they've been posted so many times its not even funny anymore...

Can you post them again? I just need one. I figured you guys had already found one if it does exist, it would save me a lot of time looking.

Thank you

This one Almost hit the dome...

originally posted by: Akragon

This one Almost hit the dome...

That was cool but they did not get to outer space (approximately 1 earth radius away from the surface). Do you know of any where they get to outer space?

a reply to: cooperton

North American X-15

en.m.wikipedia.org...

The North American X-15 is a hypersonic rocket-powered aircraft. It was operated by the United States Air Force and the National Aeronautics and Space Administration as part of the X-plane series of experimental aircraft. The X-15 set speed and altitude records in the 1960s, reaching the edge of outer space and returning with valuable data used in aircraft and spacecraft design. The X-15's highest speed, 4,520 miles per hour (7,274 km/h; 2,021 m/s), was achieved in October 1967, when William J. Knight flew at Mach 6.70 at an altitude of 102,100 feet (31,120 m), or 19.34 miles. This set the official world record for the highest speed ever recorded by a crewed, powered aircraft, which remains unbroken.[1][2][3][4]

During the X-15 program, 12 pilots flew a combined 199 flights. Of these, 8 pilots flew a combined 13 flights which met the Air Force spaceflight criterion by exceeding the altitude of 50 miles (80 km), thus qualifying these pilots as being astronauts. The Air Force pilots qualified for military astronaut wings immediately, while the civilian pilots were eventually awarded NASA astronaut wings in 2005, 35 years after the last X-15 flight.[5][6]

X-15 The Ultimate Flying Machine

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Why Neil Armstrong's X-15 Test Flight 'Bounced' Off The Atmosphere

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a reply to: cooperton

Who cares about “video” that can be “faked” when there are literal satellites and other spacecraft actively broadcasting from space this very minute.