Johnny Rotten is voting for Trump

I always knew he was as sensible as he seemed.




The original punk rocker. The original anti-authority. He understands the reality of the establishment. I put this in US political madness because Mister Lydon is a US citizen now. If mods want to move, no prob.

THis kind of reminds me of when Johnny Rotten went with his band PIL on American Bandstand and would not pretend to lip synch his own music. Freaking hilarious, and this, if you ask me, is even more hilarious.

There are probably rivers of old "punk" tears flowing in the streets now.

a reply to: Fools

Punk musicians are surprisingly conservative politically. Johnny Ramone was full blown GOP, Dee Dee as well. Danzig is conservative libertarian, Jerry Only donated to Trump's campaigns, etc.

It makes a lot of sense, really. Between the two parties, the Dems are the one who say "anyone who doesn't think like we demand is literally Hitler" while the Right's position is more "I disagree with you, ya effing punk, let me smash you in the face and then we'll grab beers." which is as punk as it gets.

a reply to: Fools

He probably understood that Trump is the best option.

Voting for democrats is against his lyrics.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Fools

Punk musicians are surprisingly conservative politically. Johnny Ramone was full blown GOP, Dee Dee as well. Danzig is conservative libertarian, Jerry Only donated to Trump's campaigns, etc.

It makes a lot of sense, really. Between the two parties, the Dems are the one who say "anyone who doesn't think like we demand is literally Hitler" while the Right's position is more "I disagree with you, ya effing punk, let me smash you in the face and then we'll grab beers." which is as punk as it gets.

I always find it interesting when I see Big liberal punk bands diss Trump whilst wearing Ramones and Misfits tees. It shows how truly and willfully ignorant they are.

originally posted by: Fools

The original punk rocker. The original anti-authority.

You're doing the USA an injustice. The New York Dolls were the original punk rockers.

Ironically, a year before the UK's Sex Pistols made their name in 1976, the Pistols' manager Malcolm McLaren was managing the Dolls from early 1975.

Just FYI.

This isn't new news to anyone who was a punk kid. Johnny Lydon has been for all the things he used to be against for a good long time now (i.e. no tears in the streets after all).

And "punk musicians are surprisingly conservative" couldn't be more false. There are a few conservatives punk folk of yesteryear here and there, but they are often ridiculous caricatures of themselves and can be counted on one hand (of which Danzig is also a fine example).

But hey, there's always Skrewdriver.

Voting for an asshat like Trump is full-on punk rock! Want chaos? Vote Trump!

I prefer Tom Morello, as a musician, and his political leanings.

Meh, I am waiting.for Ozzy's endorsement. No....not really.

originally posted by: lakenheath24
Meh, I am waiting.for Ozzy's endorsement. No....not really.

My neighbor put out a yard sign this weekend. It was red white & blue but I couldn't read it as I drove by. That evening I took the dog for a walk to check it out. It reads:

PRESIDENTS ARE TEMPORARY

BLACK SABBATH IS FOREVER!

Gotta love it!

I call it wisdom

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originally posted by: okrian
There are a few conservatives punk folk of yesteryear

Yesteryear is actual punk. What is called "punk" today is dog# and is not punk.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: okrian
There are a few conservatives punk folk of yesteryear

Yesteryear is actual punk. What is called "punk" today is dog# and is not punk.

I'm as much of a purist as the next person. But I'm not an absolutist. There are always exceptions to the rule and I've heard some good stuff in more recent years. Punk has been alive through many iterations through a lot of decades.

And if you are making a statement like "Punk musicians are surprisingly conservative politically" then you are uniquely uninformed on punk history and its political leanings/affiliations.

And if you were around at that time, you will easily remember the conservative response to punk rock... it was outrageously against it and constantly trying to 'cancel' it.

a reply to: okrian

You know what's up here!

Johnny is less "conservative", and more "anti-establishment" and what choice is more anti-establishment?

Next we're going to see conservative Americans touting "Bodies" as anti-abortion and using Johnny as a tool to draw in voters.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: okrian
There are a few conservatives punk folk of yesteryear

Yesteryear is actual punk. What is called "punk" today is dog# and is not punk.

Self-righteous, condescending gatekeeping such as this is such an accurate depiction of the seemingly universal attitude that has infested "punk culture" for decades. I think it exists in all subcultures to an extent but punk has always been so "this is punk, that's not punk, **** your punk"... it's laughably immature.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

Punk still exists? People still play electric guitars with distortion? I assumed the sound of overdriven off key guitars with pounding drums was too much for the frail sensitive ears of children these days who've grown up on the sounds of digitally produced synthesized music.

Even the music I hear called rock these days sounds more like techno than rock music.

originally posted by: okrian
And if you were around at that time, you will easily remember the conservative response to punk rock... it was outrageously against it and constantly trying to 'cancel' it.

...and just as with issues like the GOP shift to conservatism while the Dems shifted to the liberal side, times change. The GOP is not the modern cancel culture, the Dems are. The 1980s are an age ago at this point. If you want the truth, the shift began when Tipper Gore and the Democrats waged a war against the music industry. I wasn't saying that these musicians are necessarily Republicans or even Trump supporters, but yeah, I think most of the punk and rockers of the 70s and 80s are far more conservative than the modern musicians are. In a lot of ways it makes sense, as the political positions of liberals in the 70s and 80s would paint a hard right image according to the media today.

a reply to: bigsnowman

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Yea it really has always been that way

originally posted by: bigsnowman

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: okrian
There are a few conservatives punk folk of yesteryear

Yesteryear is actual punk. What is called "punk" today is dog# and is not punk.

Self-righteous, condescending gatekeeping such as this is such an accurate depiction of the seemingly universal attitude that has infested "punk culture" for decades. I think it exists in all subcultures to an extent but punk has always been so "this is punk, that's not punk, **** your punk"... it's laughably immature.

Dude, I don't care. Look, I listen to more dubstep and EDM than anything else put out in the past decade or so. I'm sorry, the current classifications consider Blink-182, Green Day, Taking Back SUnday as leading punk bands and I simply don't see it. Punk was never whining and emo complaining, it was anger and spite. Effing Green Day are toddlers complaining about not getting ice cream set to cookie cutter pop punk music.

These are punk...

This is not punk


I mean, sweet Christ, the princess of punk Avril Lavigne married the lead from Nickelback.

Punk died in the 90s, sorry but that's a fact, Jack.

originally posted by: Gnawledge
Voting for an asshat like Trump is full-on punk rock!

It's so embarrassing to see but it's true. It's like a counter-culture cult to the main cult.

Only old racist homophobic punks like Trump. Most of punk is anti-racist and anti-homophobic.