Why Haven't We Heard of this Guy???

originally posted by: Bearmonger
Explain how someone can survive 16 shots to their body (I'm being generous and ignoring the 11 shots to the vest which I'm assuming were AK rounds, even though if I weren't being generous I would question how armor designed to stop 1 or 2 rounds of 7.62 can withstand 11 from close range at full velocity) without a single one damaging vital organs enough to incapacitate or kill the dude, and then they go on to get hit by a grenade, pass out, get back up, and keep fighting. Look at ballistic gelatine tests of 7.62 bullets. They cause a lot of damage to surrounding tissue. And not one hit a major artery or knicked it or any other organ? Cmon. This # sounds fake. Like physically impossible kind of fake. Like someone being shot by a .50 to the head 3 times and surviving without their head being turned into a burst melon.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

AK rounds pass straight thru at that distance and don't have the ability to do the damage you would think because they are passing through the limbs.

Getting hit in the balls tho, OUCH. I would wave the white flag if I had time to think about getting hit there lol.

originally posted by: gladtobehere
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Why Haven't We Heard of this Guy???

Probably because most of that story was embellished.

When it comes to the war of terror, let alone the vast majority of our other endless wars, most have been filled with lies and deception.

Jessica Lynch comes to mind.

On April 24, 2007, she testified in front of Congress that she had never fired her weapon (her M16 rifle having jammed), and that she had been knocked unconscious when her vehicle crashed.[1]

Lynch has been outspoken in her criticism of the original stories reported regarding her combat experience.

When asked about her heroine status, she stated "That wasn't me. I'm not about to take credit for something I didn't do ... I'm just a survivor."[2]

Also reminds me of Chris Kyle's lie regarding Governor Ventura.

Why Jesse Ventura is likely to collect millions from Chris Kyle’s American Sniper.

Kyle describes beating up a former Navy SEAL (“Scruff Face”).

Kyle admitted that “Scruff Face” was Ventura, and he repeated the claim soon after on The O’Reilly Factor.

American Sniper shot to the top of Amazon’s best-seller list.

There was, however, a problem: The Ventura story wasn’t true, and Ventura meant to prove it.

On July 29, 2014, a federal jury returned from six days of deliberations to award Ventura $1.845 million in damages—specifically, $500,000 for defamation and about $1.345 million for unjust enrichment.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

How would I know which aspect of that story is a lie and which aspect is truthful?

The entire story sounds fake.

I'm making the simple point that theres tons of propaganda and lies when it comes to our endless wars and then I provided a couple of examples, although we both know theres no shortage of examples.

How long before the book and movie deal.

I am of the belief that Russia was our grandparents enemy. I have only ever lived in a world where no matter how stupid our governments act, Americans adore Russians and I have always felt that the Russians love their American cousins. Really, we could also be supporting the sh#t out of each other with trade and tech but unfortunately, the stereotypical enemy lasted just long enough for the two dumbest things since pre soaked bread, the Millennial Generation and Generation Z, to take hold of the big scary bear Russia and its terrorist people who steal democracies and hack their votes (strange when we still conduct our election primarily on paper and if they have the ability to hack paper then just give it to them, they earned it. But Generstion Einstein and Generation Einstein 2: Neil Degrass Tyson Time are obviously dead set on ruining the love we had for so long for one another. (Of course what do we expect the "liberals" to do if not ne fascist and hate hate hate...?)

With that said, I am sure I am going to be labeled an election fraudster supporter of terror when I say if you want a fake sounding story, you should hear about the Russian soldier who made his country all f@#ks of proud. It's amazing what he did.

Now I need a Russian to tell me whom I am thinking about. How embarrassing. My point was going toward now THATS someone who deserves we alll learn his name.

And that brave soldiers name IS.......::blushes as crickets chirp::

One of the reasons he might not have been awarded the Medal of Honor was that an Officer wasn't there to see this happen. I may be wrong though, but it didn't seem like any on the spot Officer reported the event. My cousin in Vietnam was recommended for a Medal of Honor, but since he was the only Officer there, he wasn't eligible for it. The Gunny that tried to push the issue was told the same thing. My cousin didn't really care one way or the other about it, he was just happy that his actions saved his teams lives.

SO if this SEAL didn't have that, I'm not sure he would have been recommended for it, but maybe the rules have changed since then. When I was in I was never in a position to even think about a Medal of Honor so I have no personal opinions on it.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

I watched an interview with him talking about this experience.

Pretty crazy stuff.

He said the bullets that hit his plate carrier hurt way more than the ones that hit flesh.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Mate there are quite a few Seal Team guys none of us have heard about and never will hear about any of there accomplishments , especially Team 6 members .

And Army Delta guys are a complete mystery , God only knows how many of those guys have died doing unimaginable heroic acts .

Silent Professionals they call themselves.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

A very interesting story, cool find.

My great great (three hours later] grandfather was a fighter pilot in WW1, his plane was crippled, believe it or not was escorted back to england by german pilots!

i've seen a photo of german troops and allies exchanging gifts,they didn't want the war, they were forced into war by egotistical maniacs who cared for no one but themselves.

My grandfather served in Korea, i should pass this story to him.

Either fake or usa army already started pumping soldiers with so many drugs that they can't even die properly.

originally posted by: RudeMarine
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

It does take forever and multiple US witnesses need to verify the story along with having a solid unblemished background in all aspects of life these days. I would also suspect he is not a fan of Obama and that is likely why he was passed over by the President at the time. Trump will gladly put the medal on him if he hears about it and I for dam sure support that.

Trust me when I tell you though, he could give a shat less. He is a warrior and probably just wanted to get back in the fight asap.

Well, that's an interesting angle actually. Upon some further research it turns out Admiral McRaven, who wrote the Forward for Day's book, was nominated for promotion to the rank of Admiral by Obama, and McRaven has gone on to be an ardent critic of Trump. So, while I can't speculate about Mike Day's political persuasion, the SOCOM Commander at the time (as a Vice Admiral) was definitely in favor with Obama. Consequently, if theory is correct and Mike Day was not a fan of Obama then this might explain why he was passed over. However, it's kind of curious then why McRaven would have put his name on Day's book.

Just for some timeline clarity, the event took place in 2007. McRaven was nominated for promotion to the rank of Admiral in 2011 and I believe Day's book was published in 2020.

a reply to: RudeMarine

Yes, this was my first thought as well (i.e. FMJ 7.62 rounds just passing through with no expansion). Amazing it didn't break bones though (but maybe it did).

I totally agree on taking one to the berries! Think getting 'tapped' hurts? Imagine taking an 7.62x39 round to the nards!!

I was enlisted Air Force, got out, used the GI bill to go to college got my engineering degree and felt obligated to go back to work for the military as a naval scientist. ( ANYONE can do this so I don’t want to hear about systematic racism, it’s pure BULL #e). I worked on three systems for the SEALs. One targeting, one weapon system, and one communication system. These guys look unassuming, confident, but normal guys. But they can kill you barehanded in 30 seconds. But they care about their country, and their people, and they’re teammates. They are giving people. They can kill 25 bad guys in one day and then cry when a dog dies. Our SPECOPS guts are the best in the world. The closest we’ll ever have to REAL superheroes.
I think we could get rid of a lot of this BullCrap if we made it mandatory that everyone serve 2 years in the military. It would eradicate most if not all of these 20 something white liberal wannabes by making them aware of hard work and doing something greater than themselves other than socialist causes.
I sleep great at night knowing these guys are out there.
We should bring them back and blm and antifa would be gone in 30 seconds.
I saw Tim Kennedy ( former Green Beret Delta guy, army’s SEAL team 6)talk about clearing out Portland in one night with 2 SpecOps guys.

That’s way more than what adrenaline does for most...
does it come in a pill or?
a reply to: SleeperHasAwakened

Here he is....Alexander Prokhorenko. Was ambushed by surrounding and closing in enemies. After ensuring that his fellow soldiers who could escape did, he called in a request that his superiors order an air strike on his position.

What a terrifying hopeless and lonely way to go. He was given the title the Hero of the Russian People, the highest award possible similar to the Medal of Honor.

They turned his ordeal into a short 10 minute movie in remember seeing once I dont know if it was YouTube or back in Europe or in the US however I do remember being such a proud Russian by the end of the short film for a few seconds till I remembered, I am not Russian and I have nothing to do with Russia. It was just such an overdose of nontoxic masculinity, courage, a celebration of men who I dont care what anyone argues, ARE more likely to survive and to make hard decisions in situations like his which you have either lived yourself or its insulting to even insinuate you know what he must have felt like.

But kudos to him for going out in a manner equal to giving everyone who hears the story a teabag. A hero's teabag though which leaves a bump on the noggin because of how big and hairy and steel covered his balls were....geez if only I could go out remembered with such an honorable legacy.....love the guy.

originally posted by: ZeroFurrbone
Either fake or usa army already started pumping soldiers with so many drugs that they can't even die properly.

Some comments just are ridiculous .

As crazy as it seems , you could be shot all up and down your body and as long as no arteries or major organs are hit you can and will live.

a reply to: AlexandrosTheGreat

Yup he knew what ISIS would do to him, saved himself a lot of pain and paved his way to Valhalla with the bodies of his enemies.

What’s ridiculous is how boastful you are. Would you want to stress test your theory? Full credit to the subject of this original story. Military’s do have history of providing substances to solders to boost performance, are you denying that reality? If this was so common place in human ability why is this story remarkable at all? This isn’t the olympics so I don’t think the use of substance really disqualifies anything here no?

If the subject was on bath salts we all wouldn’t bat an eye at this story, they are similar minus the heroism.

a reply to: asabuvsobelow

::Jaw dropped::
Day makes Joshua Chamberlain look like a sissy.