State With Rolling Blackouts Mandates Electric Cars

All this was doing is garnering him votes and support for re-election or a senate bid... Its not feasible on so many levels. Besides technolody advancements are so much better when they are market driven instead of government mandated.

a reply to: putnam6

It's like they think people like car payments.

If there was a better, cheaper alternative, people would take it.

I would point out that according to the Constitution and the Commerce Clause what California is doing is unconstitutional. Interstate commerce regulation is a power delegated to the Federal Government. What California has been doing to the automobile industry is unconstitutional.

a reply to: ntech
But they do it all over.

California is such a large market that their state regulations often affect all the rest downstream by forcing manufacturers to either bow to what Cali wants or stop doing business with them altogether in favor of the other more business friendly states.

Another example would be the egg industry. California decided on its own to change the size of cage farmers had to maintain their laying hens in, and so farmers either had to face not selling to Cali at all or justify the expense of upgrading their entire facility just on Cali's say-so. In case you wondered, that was roughly when the cost of all your eggs went up several years ago.

I guarantee they will tweak the smog test parameters to weed vehicles off the road they don't want. They've been doing it for years.

I had a 1972 Cutlass Supreme around 1998-99. I was consistently harassed by CHP, Sheriff's, and local PD for the most minor and non-existent infractions. Same thing when I had my 1963 Impala SS around 1989-92.

They were trying to find anything to tow my rides.

California suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks so bad it's nauseating... 🤮

I love electric cars but this is nuts. They clearly haven't thought through how people charge cars. IF the state can't handle people running air conditioners now, how are they going to deal with a large portion of people charging cars all at the same? Most people charge their cars at night at home....

a reply to: ketsuko

Considering the majority of California's energy is produced by burning natural gas, it would seem to me the claim "100% zero-emissions" is false to begin with...

I have an electric car.

I love it. Never going back to 100% gas.

I fully support this. Why continue using old fossil fuel burning tech?

It's time for the future. Plus zero emissions is a good thing.

originally posted by: ChaoticOrder
a reply to: ketsuko

Considering the majority of California's energy is produced by burning natural gas, it would seem to me the claim "100% zero-emissions" is false to begin with...

I didn't even go into what he mandated for fracking which is all about natural gas.

a reply to: Lucidparadox

Must be nice to both be able to afford an electric car and for it to be practical to your lifestyle.

We ran the numbers on both last time around when we bought a car, and they just didn't wash and they likely won't this time around either.

Electric just isn't practical. Not to mention, if you live in a state that has unreliable electric, how can you depend on refueling/recharging?

I would hate to, for example, have to rely on an electric in a hurricane evacuation situation where you often get stuck in traffic for hours going nowhere fast and don't have hours to sit and wait on a recharge or if you live in a state where you have to drive long distances for anything. Electric just doesn't measure up for that.

originally posted by: Lucidparadox
I have an electric car.

I love it. Never going back to 100% gas.

I fully support this. Why continue using old fossil fuel burning tech?

It's time for the future. Plus zero emissions is a good thing.

Where did you think the energy for the battery came from? Also, what happens to the spent batteries?

originally posted by: Lucidparadox
I have an electric car.

I love it. Never going back to 100% gas.

I fully support this. Why continue using old fossil fuel burning tech?

It's time for the future. Plus zero emissions is a good thing.

how will you dispose of the batteries? Is that also zero pollution?

Wow, talk about sticking it to the poor. Of which a great majority is minorities. Pretty sure this new policy is racist.

He will complain about all of the extra charging points needed to sustain electric cars,

And where do they think that electricity comes from? Mostly from burning oil I would think. They don't have a clue.

It will make it harder to leave the state. I'm thinking about getting the Hell out of CA myself. I would save a fortune in taxes. It's only a good place to live if you are a criminal.

I laugh at anyone that thinks an electric car is saving the enviroment, strip mining to get the metals needed, then having problems getting rid of the batteries when they die out in a few years.

Id wager they are more toxic to the enviroment since most folks seem to be its good for the enviroment as long as the land around me isnt destroyed.

originally posted by: InterplanetaryHobo
U.S. Dept of Energy - In 2017, California used 360,000,000 barrels of gas. That would equate to approximately 15,000,000,000 gallons of gas (15 Billion).

California's gas tax is 47.3 cents per gallon. That would equate to about 7.5 Billion dollars annually in tax revenue for the state of California.

GO Newsom!!! Get rid of a source of tax revenue.

they'll just turn around and put a 15 dollar per megawatt hr tax on electricity for all the people charging their cars, then when they go solar to charge them 15 dollars a hr on sunshine, then a 15 dollar a mile road tax.

a reply to: Doctor Smith

Doesn't Cali buy a lot of it from their neighbors now to make up for what their green energy ventures doesn't reliably produce?

a reply to: Irishhaf

when i see the amazon commercial where they say their going to leave a zero carbon foot print, i do the same thing.
no way they can do it.

some where down the line, somebody is gonna release green house gases on everything they make and amazon uses.

Geez, are they gonna make our electricity cost more to make up for all the lost gas tax revenue? We already can't handle everyone using A/C in the heat, this would make our blackouts a year round occurrence if they don't pull a power generating miracle out of their rear ends.

I'll start calling Teslas "rolling blackouts" from now on.