Making Sense of the Issue of the Day - RBG

a reply to: panoz77

I did hear this morning that Trump is going to announce his nominee this week, but later this week as soon as RBG's funeral is over. I kinda like that. It's a show of respect for Justice Ginsberg.

But on the other hand, seeing that the Senate is scheduled to go into recess October 9, that could turn into a problematic delay. I get the impression (and this may be purposely designed to give that impression) that Trump isn't worried about this. He's going to do his job, urge the Senate to do theirs, and if decorum demands a short delay, so be it.

TheRedneck

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: panoz77

I did hear this morning that Trump is going to announce his nominee this week, but later this week as soon as RBG's funeral is over. I kinda like that. It's a show of respect for Justice Ginsberg.

But on the other hand, seeing that the Senate is scheduled to go into recess October 9, that could turn into a problematic delay. I get the impression (and this may be purposely designed to give that impression) that Trump isn't worried about this. He's going to do his job, urge the Senate to do theirs, and if decorum demands a short delay, so be it.

TheRedneck

Yeah, as long as he nominates this Friday or Saturday, it's up to the Senate to vote. They have plenty of time to confirm even if it is after the election. Trump did his part, that's all he can do. I'm not very concerned either way, I am confident he will be re-elected overwhelmingly.

Technically the Senate can call a vote immediately. There's no legal requirement for the circus hearings where they just try to destroy people's lives. Nominate, vote, repeat until nominee confirmed.

Maybe not directly related, but my issue is Conservatives can’t/don’t/won’t keep God out of politics.

“On a court that in recent years has chipped away at religious freedom, granting religious privilege to those who would use their faith to discriminate, to exclude or to deny equality, Justice Ginsburg’s voice on behalf of one of America’s most important founding principles – and the vulnerable people it protects – was stalwart and clear. She consistently joined the opinion most protective of the separation of religion and government in virtually every case during her long tenure. www.au.org...

originally posted by: Annee
Maybe not directly related, but my issue is Conservatives can’t/don’t/won’t keep God out of politics.

“On a court that in recent years has chipped away at religious freedom, granting religious privilege to those who would use their faith to discriminate, to exclude or to deny equality, Justice Ginsburg’s voice on behalf of one of America’s most important founding principles – and the vulnerable people it protects – was stalwart and clear. She consistently joined the opinion most protective of the separation of religion and government in virtually every case during her long tenure. www.au.org...

Why would they? Religious freedom is important for everyone.

originally posted by: jjkenobi

originally posted by: Annee
Maybe not directly related, but my issue is Conservatives can’t/don’t/won’t keep God out of politics.

“On a court that in recent years has chipped away at religious freedom, granting religious privilege to those who would use their faith to discriminate, to exclude or to deny equality, Justice Ginsburg’s voice on behalf of one of America’s most important founding principles – and the vulnerable people it protects – was stalwart and clear. She consistently joined the opinion most protective of the separation of religion and government in virtually every case during her long tenure. www.au.org...

Why would they? Religious freedom is important for everyone.

Not if it takes precedence over freedom from.

a reply to: TheRedneck

It's actually rather telling when both sides can't agree on a Justice to interpet the Constitution.

It's partisan.

Our Justices are now partisan.

What would be so terrible about a justice that traditionally interpreted the Constitution?

I guess that's bad now.

We need "progressive" justices?

a reply to: TheRedneck


The Senate and the Acting President have a Constitutional Duty to Fill a Vacant SCOTUS Seat when Presented to them as Soon as Humanly Possible . That is the Law . So Be It .

a reply to: TheRedneck

Like you said, President Trump says he will not name Ruth ginsburg's replacement until after her funeral.

Democrats may try to postpone Ruth Ginsburg's funeral for several weeks in order to prevent President Trump from naming her successor.

Who controls when the funeral will be?

originally posted by: jjkenobi

originally posted by: Annee
Maybe not directly related, but my issue is Conservatives can’t/don’t/won’t keep God out of politics.

“On a court that in recent years has chipped away at religious freedom, granting religious privilege to those who would use their faith to discriminate, to exclude or to deny equality, Justice Ginsburg’s voice on behalf of one of America’s most important founding principles – and the vulnerable people it protects – was stalwart and clear. She consistently joined the opinion most protective of the separation of religion and government in virtually every case during her long tenure. www.au.org...

Why would they? Religious freedom is important for everyone.

Not if it takes precedence over freedom from.

a reply to: network dude

JP Stevens was confirmed in 19 days

Sandra O'Connor in 33 days
RBG in 42 days
There are 43 days til November 3rd
I'm not sure what makes you think it can't happen

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: TheRedneck

Like you said, President Trump says he will not name Ruth ginsburg's replacement until after her funeral.

Democrats may try to postpone Ruth Ginsburg's funeral for several weeks in order to prevent President Trump from naming her successor.

Who controls when the funeral will be?

Ruth was of the Jewish Faith , so Certain Events must Happen before Burial according to Her Own Personal Beliefs.....


" Time Between Death and Burial
As soon as possible after death, the Rabbi or funeral home should be contacted, so that the arrangements can begin. A speedy burial is extremely important.

It’s believed that this is one of the most important ways to honor the deceased.

Within 24-hours is preferred, if it’s possible.

They feel that it disrespects the dead to leave the body unburied.

Immediately after death a few rituals are performed .


cremationinstitute.com...

a reply to: Annee




" Maybe not directly related, but my issue is Conservatives can’t/don’t/won’t keep God out of politics. "

And Liberal Atheists would Not Even Consider in a Democratic Republic the Personal Beliefs of their Fellow Citizens , Eh > ? .....Touché .........

a reply to: jjkenobi

Technically the Senate can call a vote immediately. There's no legal requirement for the circus hearings where they just try to destroy people's lives. Nominate, vote, repeat until nominee confirmed.

It seems everyone on Trump's short list has already been vetted for a lower court confirmation only a few years ago. There's really not that much to vet, unless someone wants to claim that they failed to properly vet them before.

TheRedneck

a reply to: Annee

Not if it takes precedence over freedom from [religion].

Freedom of religion is freedom from religion. Who is forcing you to worship anyone or anything?

Seeing someone else worship in their own way is not harming you.

TheRedneck

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: jjkenobi

originally posted by: Annee
Maybe not directly related, but my issue is Conservatives can’t/don’t/won’t keep God out of politics.

“On a court that in recent years has chipped away at religious freedom, granting religious privilege to those who would use their faith to discriminate, to exclude or to deny equality, Justice Ginsburg’s voice on behalf of one of America’s most important founding principles – and the vulnerable people it protects – was stalwart and clear. She consistently joined the opinion most protective of the separation of religion and government in virtually every case during her long tenure. www.au.org...

Why would they? Religious freedom is important for everyone.

Not if it takes precedence over freedom from.

In your eyes, just having any religion at all takes precedence over freedom from which means you have a litmus test that excludes the vast majority of people in this country. In your eyes, it wouldn't matter if someone were Wiccan, Hindu, Muslim, or Christian ... they're religious and that's just too much for you.

a reply to: TheRedneck

Wait until Feinstein pulls out her binders full of rape claims letters.

a reply to: carewemust

Who controls when the funeral will be?

I would assume the family, with input from her peers obviously. Ginsberg was a hero to quite a few people, and I'm sure they would appreciate the chance to say goodbye.

On the other hand, as Zanti Misfit points out, Ginsberg was Jewish. It seems the Jewish faith requires as speedy a burial as possible. But I am hearing the funeral will be Friday or Saturday, almost a week after her death. Seems to me her admirers would be dishonoring her memory by disregarding her faith and expecting a long, drawn out process. Every day she remains unburied is an insult to her wishes from what I hear.

But what do I know?

TheRedneck

a reply to: Zanti Misfit

The Senate and the Acting President have a Constitutional Duty to Fill a Vacant SCOTUS Seat when Presented to them as Soon as Humanly Possible . That is the Law . So Be It .

I have no problem with that. Of course, I heard this morning that Pelosi wants to impeach the President (again!) to "prevent him from nominating a replacement."

That was on Fox and I'm sure there's some exaggeration going on, but the fact remains that impeaching a President has no effect on him being able to nominate a Supreme Court Justice. He is still President until such time as the Senate votes to remove him. Last time the impeachment contained no crimes; this time it would be an impeachment of a sitting President for fulfilling the Constitutional role of a sitting President.

Plus, I'm sure Trump already has his nominee chosen; he's waiting to announce out of decorum. If there's any actual action toward an impeachment vote, he could nominate his choice in the time it takes to tweet a tweet. In that case, I doubt anyone would think ill of him for jumping the gun... at least not anyone who doesn't already hate him for being Donald Trump.

TheRedneck

a reply to: TheRedneck



" I heard this morning that Pelosi wants to impeach the President (again!) to "prevent him from nominating a replacement." :



On what Grounds for Impeachment will this Old Booze Hound Present to Congress ? This is getting to be an Abuse of Power by the House Drinker IMO .......