We could go ahead and scientifically shut down the global warming question right now

originally posted by: BadBoYeed
a reply to: CriticalStinker

Here is a good video on the subject of green energy, and how its not at all what its cracked up to be

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I've already said it's quite embellished.

That doesn't mean it always will be. I typically disagree with extremes. So, I disagree those who've turned it into a political football and manipulated people out of fear the world will end to vote for them.

Moreover, I think the government mucking it up would do more harm than good... I also don't like to pay taxes to prop up industries that can't survive the free market on their own.

But don't think for a second the other side isn't taking an inverse position and playing games or their own.

Climate change is acknowledged as real.
The more some may lie about it not being real the more real it may be.

originally posted by: GBP/JPY

The target for the maximum ocean sea level rise is the armpits of the Statue of Liberty

Just to add...
Not sure if this planet will experience deluge like flooding again.

Genesis 9:11-9:15
King James Version

11 And I will establish my covenant with you, neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth.

12 And God said, This is the token of the covenant which I make between me and you and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations:

13 I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth.

14 And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud:

15 And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh.

The ocean laps at the front of our yard as it hs as long as I can remember. I look at it every day. I understand 60 years is nothing but a blip in time but it is all I have to refer to. Rise? I don't see it .


a reply to: Flatcoat

Climate change, of course the climate changes. We are not living on the most stable planet in the cosmos, Mother Nature is more of a juggler than a high wire artist IMO.

What sticks in my craw is how California is blaming "climate change" for all these massive wildfires when it is obviously a lax forestry program to blame. Most of Michigan burned twice after the logging boom of the 1800s because no one cleaned up the mess after clear cutting the forests and there was no plan for dealing with the thick regrowth afterwards.

When there were some wildfires here in the 70s, the forestry service got it together and started maintaining public forests and woodlands for fire control by using controlled burns, cutting fire breaks and keeping fire prone areas cleaned up.

I'm afraid that leaving the environment to nature like many liberal tree hugging types want is asking for regular wild fires. That is a cycle we have interfered with and we should take the responsibility for that mismanagement. I believe that most of these environmentalist types that worship nature could never make it in an environment that is not managed, esp. if they have to live by the law of the jungle.

Nature has never been kind or loving and it is in state of constant change. Sure there are long stretches of stability, but it eventually changes to something less desirable for human habitation. We will never have full control, esp. without having due diligence.

ETA: Even the "primitive" and scientifically challenged Native Americans practiced land management using controlled burns and other techniques to manage their hunting and agricultural grounds long before European colonists interfered.

We know for a matter of fact if the Earth didn't have an atmosphere we would all freeze to death at night and burn to death in the day. This can not be argued.

We know exactly why. In the day the Earth's atmosphere blocks and absorbs a large portion of the light / radiation from the Sun so we don't burn to death. The energy absorbed in the atmosphere in the day is retained as heat and this keeps us warm in the night so we don't freeze to death. This can't be argued.

We also know that some of the atmosphere lets light / radiation pass right through and is then absorbed into the ground. That is then radiated back out at a different wavelength which is no longer able to pass right through the atmosphere and instead is absorbed. We call this the Greenhouse Effect. This can't be argued.

We also know we are taking oil from the ground and burning / combusting it in our engines and releasing the result of the chemical reaction into the atmosphere at unprecedented rates. We know releasing this gas is changing our atmosphere.

We know we are changing the very thing that keeps us warm at night, and it can keep us more warm in the day too. This can't be argued.

A solar panel BUILT in space 10,000 Miles By 10,000 Miles would supply ALL earths electrical needs . Beamed down In any wave form Not dangress to the earth its self or us SAY radio waves .

First BUILD a MOON base then Build the necessary factory's ON the MOON its self No have Lift rocket needed A rail gun will do fine .

All made form the moon its elf earth no longer involved . Even from the very start we would be receiving More and more power as time goes on .
It is NO longer a question OF can Humans create clean Power BUT will humans create clean power .

But we will always need oil for lubing machines minim .And plastics .