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Breaking BAASS, Assessing AATIP and Doubting Thomas ‘DeLonge’

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posted on Sep, 21 2021 @ 07:03 PM
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I can't figure out how to upload an image, but if you look at a NUFORC time series, it spikes in 2006. That's clearly when the web report form came online



posted on Sep, 21 2021 @ 08:55 PM
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originally posted by: Magnificat
I can't figure out how to upload an image, but if you look at a NUFORC time series, it spikes in 2006. That's clearly when the web report form came online


Try this for uploading….I mostly use an iPad but it should also work for desktop/laptop….of course there may be an easier way…..

In sequence click:

Down arrow
Upload cloud
Select files
Photo library
(Click on one photo of your choice, .png’s are best to use. I find .jpg’s or .jpeg’s won’t work..gif’s are ok. If your pic is not .png….you’ll have to convert .jpg’s .jpeg’s to it to add for the upload)
ADD once picture is selected
Click on upload cloud
(At this point, your uploaded picture should show up in your ATS library)
Click on picture for post
Highlight or select all the top line pic info
Copy
Click webpage back button
Paste into your post

Preview to make sure picture shows…

Good Luck

It may look like a PITA to do, but you’ll get the hang of it.





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posted on Sep, 22 2021 @ 08:32 AM
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a reply to: Ophiuchus1

Thank you! That was the help I needed.

Anyways, this is what I'm talking about. This is a daily plot of all the reports in the NUFORC database, accessed at the end of 2020, so there have been a few backdated reports added since then, but nothing major.



posted on Sep, 22 2021 @ 12:55 PM
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originally posted by: Magnificat
a reply to: Ophiuchus1

Thank you! That was the help I needed.

Anyways, this is what I'm talking about. This is a daily plot of all the reports in the NUFORC database, accessed at the end of 2020, so there have been a few backdated reports added since then, but nothing major.
Looks like you're missing some of the data, your 2006 spike is not consistent with this graph which doesn't show a 2006 spike. It's hard to identify the years but there may even be a slight decline in 2006, from the 2005 level.

originally posted by: Ophiuchus1
Here’s the latest Arb….the article is dated May 20, 2021

Source: Statista Global UFO Sightings




posted on Sep, 22 2021 @ 01:39 PM
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a reply to: Arbitrageur

You are right, I had an automated script downloading the reports, and for some reason, certain years did not download all the way.



posted on Sep, 22 2021 @ 02:27 PM
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a reply to: Magnificat

There's no need to download anything to get a quick overview. Simply copy and paste the monthly figures, taken from NUFORC's own monthly stats into a spreadsheet and create a chart from it as below.


2021 Figures are incomplete and to Sept only.


I've done this from 1995 -2021 a year after the NUFORC website went live.

All it illustrates is the volume of sightings reported to NUFORC in each year though.



posted on Sep, 22 2021 @ 02:35 PM
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a reply to: mirageman

I have wondered about this and whether or not you can infer anything meaningful from patterns in NUFORC data alone. Just speculating, but I would think that from 1995-2006, NUFORC, and to a lesser degree, MUFON, would have been the primary organizations to which people would report their UFO sightings. But in more recent history, there has been a great increase in the number of places to report UFO sightings, namely social media. So instead of reporting to NUFORC, maybe they report the sighting on reddit or twitter, so a slight increase in sightings from 2019-2020 could actually be representative of a much greater increase in UFO sightings since the majority of them would no longer be reported to NUFORC, but shared on social media instead.



posted on Sep, 22 2021 @ 02:57 PM
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a reply to: Magnificat

If it's of any interest, I did some analysis on a different database of sightings. You can download the CSV file yourself at this link if you want to do some manipulation : Link to Hatch UFO Database CSV file

The thread is here.

The U* UFO Database & Analysis

I used the Larry Hatch U* UFO database which compiled over 18,000 UFO cases sourced from UFO literature of the 20th century. Even though it is heavily biased towards English language reports it represents a much more international reach than NUFORC.

Note that the value of each individual case in the report should be taken on its own merits. As some sightings in the database were later discredited.



posted on Sep, 22 2021 @ 03:01 PM
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a reply to: Magnificat

I think, as well that there may be a bit of under reporting given the additional social media avenues…..the question then is….does an organization like a NUFORC pool in from those and other sources to add to their numbers? If not, I suspect totals are not accurate but ball parked for any survey.

Here are some organizations that accepts UFO reports:

en.m.wikipedia.org...

A rhetorical question…….How many members here, that post their own experiences….also report the experience to an organization? Members experiences told here at the ATS forums (and non-ATS forums) may fall through the cracks as to not being officially reported.

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posted on Sep, 23 2021 @ 11:49 AM
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Outside of the US you are pretty much limited to reporting UFOs to either local law enforcement or the military. Whose only purpose will be to evaluate if it represents anything illegal or dangerous.

Civilian organizations like MUFON and NUFORC seem to collect reports and do very little with them anyway. Maybe reports are of some use if there are multiple witnesses with photographic and video evidence from multiple angles.

As to what Bigelow did with all of UFO reports and alien abduction files he's acquired is anyone's guess. But if I was to make one, I'd say he might have passed them onto to his 'paymasters'.So they can then gauge whether secret tech [possibly even from adversaries] has been mistaken for a UFO and what the witnesses believe they saw.



posted on Oct, 6 2021 @ 08:30 AM
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Back on topic now.



There is recent news about, Neil McAsland. One of Tom's contacts as per Wikileaks, a huge Blink 182 fan and pictured here with his 'Lazar Special Edition' Specs.

Over at the Blackvault a recent FOI request was sent to the Air Force requesting email records between McCasland and DeLonge.



Ref : Link1 and Link2

It came back with a 'no record's response.

We could be suspicious about there being no records. But perhaps in this case there really aren't any. McCasland retired in October 2013 from the Air Force and joined Applied Technology Associates (ATA).

Plus, if he was communicating with his favourite rock star and this wasn't official business, then he probably used a private email address. He remains one of this cast of characters that seems untouchable and has never been questioned by so-called journalists.



posted on Oct, 6 2021 @ 01:37 PM
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a reply to: mirageman

Don’t know if this is relevant to your post……perhaps already mentioned deep in this thread…

Source: www.thesun.ie... send-ufo-believers-into-a-frenzy/





posted on Oct, 6 2021 @ 02:59 PM
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a reply to: Ophiuchus1

It's buried somewhere deep in one of the older threads. But it sort of proves my point.

1) The email is dated Jan 25th 2016
2) DeLonge says he's been "...working with him for four months"
3) McCasland retired from the USAF in October 2013


Therefore any FOI request lodged with the USAF would produced nil results even if McCasland had been incredibly dumb and used his official email account to communicate.

The question is why was this guy assembling Tom's team for him if he was already finished with the Air Force in 2013?

Journalism fails again.



posted on Oct, 7 2021 @ 12:32 AM
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a reply to: mirageman

As I read below…….perhaps the good General (if he was one of the two A-Level officials) was to feed UFO/Alien proof but needed high profile credible folks for the TDL team….possibly to recruit Podesta, but then the whole TTSA went sideways with Zondo and Mellonhead doing the adios suckers. The good general is needing credible associates (backup), he can’t get at the moment, perhaps.

Wonder what the photo’s of “material” are, that is mentioned at the bottom of the email.

From the past……” “Finally, my biggest failure of 2014: Once again not securing the #disclosure of the UFO files. #thetruthisstilloutthere,” Podesta tweeted.”……

Here goes something I can’t open….but maybe someone else could. Enter this url manually into your browser url then download file…..I’m assuming it’s a type of compressed file like a zip.






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posted on Oct, 7 2021 @ 01:26 AM
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FYI…….what others say…

DO WE WANT DISCLOSURE OR DO WE WANT A DRIP FEED? THEN FOCUS ON GEN. WILLIAM NEIL MCCASLAND!

Source: www.socialgrep.com...

……..” Tom Delonge has made it clear on many occasions that what's coming from TTSA is a slow drip feed that will take place over many years. I think it's clear that this is the case. Not only have we not received a single new video, but we have not seen the full resolution and full length versions of the ones that have already been posted. However, what's even more frustrating, is that his top original adviser, Gen. William Neil McCasland, knows all about the UFO/ET coverup and could expose everything if he so chose - but so far he has not.

Gen. William Neil McCasland was Director of Special Projects for OUSDAT (Office of the Under Secretary for Defense, Acquisition, and Technology + Logistics) which made him Executive Secretary for SAPOC (Special Access Project Oversight Committee) and would have put him on the Senior Review Group which is the smaller group that oversees and advises SAPOC. Annually, every single Special Access Project - including unacknowledged, waived, and carved outs - have to report to the Senior Review Group. This would have put Gen. William Neil McCasland in the perfect position to know about ALL the Special Access Projects studying ET technology and/or working on reverse engineering. Tom Delonge made it clear that he was told by him that Roswell happened. Moreover, he was told that there were a long string of crashes and anti-gravity was cracked a long time ago.

For decades the UFO community has been demanding answers from the government, the military, or even the President. However, the vast majority of our elected representatives are clueless about what has really been going on. The access point to information is the SRG of the SAPOC. This is the same group that denied Adm. Thomas Wilson access to the SAP ran by "the best" military contractor (obviously Lockheed) that admitted to be working on a craft not made on Earth, not made by human hands. This group is the access way to the truth about the UFO/ET reality.

I believe that we need to shift gears and follow up on these leads if we want to get the full truth from the powers that be.”…….
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Another nugget…..

The Good General or GG


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posted on Oct, 7 2021 @ 05:08 AM
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...Gen. William Neil McCasland was Director of Special Projects for OUSDAT (Office of the Under Secretary for Defense, Acquisition, and Technology + Logistics) ..... This would have put Gen. William Neil McCasland in the perfect position to know about ALL the Special Access Projects


Zondo’s official title within the DoD when he "resigned" was “Director, National Programs Special Management Staff, OUSD(I). An office that has virtually no information about any responsibilities in the public domain. Except for this document [p52]which quotes them as the "SAP access people"

Which would have put Zondo in a position to know ALL about these Special Projects too!


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posted on Oct, 7 2021 @ 08:02 AM
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a reply to: mirageman
MM link shows me only a one page court recording unofficial transcript of introduction of individuals in the Military and FBI attendance..and that’s about it. Can’t scroll to any other pages using an iPad…..not seeing verbiage on “SAP access people”

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posted on Oct, 7 2021 @ 09:08 AM
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This is the important paragraph.



We can deduce that Lue worked as Director of this office because it says so on the DD1910 form he raised for release of videos of "UAV, Balloons and other UAS" in August 2017. Just before, he joined TTSA.




This also makes one wonder if his emails really were deleted.

Because somehow an email chain existed for this specific request!



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posted on Oct, 7 2021 @ 09:43 AM
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It’s definitely strange that this chain of emails appears with his title in the request form……which appears to establish his employment……..yet any other of his other emails are now waxed?

Looks like suppression and denial from the organization.

I still find it hard to believe that any emails Zondo sent to any recipient…..that the recipient wouldn’t keep a copy for themselves. Copies which may be highly revealing.

The Saga continues……

Also, I will note that William Neil McCasland may in fact be a key to disclosure. Notice how the UAP flap is concentrated towards the USN….and the USAF is MIA. In his 2013 presentation, he definitely mentions more than once…..hypersonic development.

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posted on Oct, 7 2021 @ 12:09 PM
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Also, I will note that William Neil McCasland may in fact be a key to disclosure...


Whatever "disclosure" ends up meaning in this case.

It's very possible, due to his expertise in the field of experimental aerospace technology, that this was designed as a ruse to cover up secret technology tests.

He was probably unexpectedly exposed by Wikileaks. Although no replies to Tom were ever leaked.

But he is now protected' from questions by patriotic Nat- Sec friendly 'assets' in the UFO media. Who either don't ask the right questions or don't question the right people. If they were really interested in the truth then they wouldn't ignore this.

Don't forget as well that Tom claims.a general told him during the Cold War that "we found a lifeform



There is a new piece, Does the US Government Want You To Believe in UFOs?




.....According to a 2011 US military handbook, “military deception” operations are those which “deliberately mislead adversary military decision makers about US military capabilities, intentions, and operations.”

After US officers “carefully weigh the likely benefits of a deception operation against a potential short and long-term loss of credibility with the media or local audiences,” they sometimes “support military deception operations designed to preserve operational surprise…” It is unlikely that the government has abandoned this concept in the last decade.

Determining which sources to trust and how much of them to trust is complicated by the very nature of disinformation. If we have trouble concluding the truth about a military deception operation with certainty, then the operation was a success....





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