It's easy if you try

Charles de Gaulle put it – “Politics is too serious a matter to be left to the politicians”.

As we receive the current narrative through broadcast and digital media from our overlords on a daily basis, some of us are getting tired of all the horse# being peddled as if we are all retarded.

And in a sense we are just that. We will go along, albeit grudgingly, with whatever excrement is being offered up as gourmet food.

Take this lush as an example:




Whether you're a Democrat or a person fortunate enough to exhibit critical thinking skills, we all know that her salary doesn't correspond with her net worth.

On to my forwards thinking friends, ze Jews.

Whenever a new school of thought is made mainstream you can bet your bottom shekel that one of the Chosen people are involved.

Any - ism out there. Check it out.

It therefore should come as no surprise, that when a world without politicians is imagined like I sometimes do, the original thought has probably been discussed 12 million times already.

A world without politicians


We don't need bloodsucking tics living of and manipulating the system until they sink the boat for all of us.


How would a narrative about a world without politicians gain traction worldwide?

A world without politics? Impossible.

A world without politicians? Unlikely.

a reply to: 19Bones79

Take this lush as an example:

Take this lie as an example. That video you guys constantly refer to was shown to be manipulated and slowed down over a year ago, yet you guys still fall back on it like it’s the truth.

On to my forwards thinking friends, ze Jews. Whenever a new school of thought is made mainstream you can bet your bottom shekel that one of the Chosen people are involved.

Ah, there it is. Stay classy ATS right wing.

a reply to: underwerks

Ah there it is. The first NPC to misinterpret my post and my sense of humor.

That's the problem with a world in which people like you run the show.

Humor will be outlawed because you just don't get it.

Might as well be a bot.

a reply to: underwerks

Whenever a new school of thought is made mainstream you can bet your bottom shekel that one of the Chosen people are involved.

No no not no not good!

a reply to: 19Bones79

Nazism?

Which Jew invented that one

a reply to: dashen

"In 2010, the British paper The Daily Telegraph reported that a study had been conducted in which saliva samples were collected from 39 of Hitler's known relatives to test their DNA origins and found, though inconclusively, that Hitler may have Jewish origins. The paper reported: A chromosome called Haplogroup E1b1b1 which showed up in [the Hitler] samples is rare in Western Europe and is most commonly found in the Berbers of Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia, as well as among Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews ... Haplogroup E1b1b1, which accounts for approximately 18 to 20 per cent of Ashkenazi and 8.6 per cent to 30 per cent of Sephardic Y-chromosomes, appears to be one of the major founding lineages of the Jewish population. This study, though scientific by nature, is inconclusive."

Which scenario is more likely? He was related to the Berbers of Morocco, Algeria or Tunisia or Ashkenazi or Sephardic?

Was Hitler Jewish?


The study concludes no, he wasn't. I guess that makes him of African descent even though no further line of inquiry is presented.

a reply to: 19Bones79

To be honest, even I'm surprised by that one, and I certainly didn't intend this thread to get stuck on the Jewish issue.

Not one person has yet responded to the idea of a world without politicians.

Imagine that.

a reply to: 19Bones79

Because it seems to me that by politicians you actually mean the world without Jews

originally posted by: dashen
a reply to: 19Bones79

Nazism?

Which Jew invented that one

Hitler was half Jewish does that count? Haha

originally posted by: 19Bones79
a reply to: 19Bones79



Not one person has yet responded to the idea of a world without politicians.

Imagine that.

I have banged on and on about how we need to change the system, I suggest a Demarchy instead of Democracies. Politicians would be replaced by members of the public drawn up by lot, the same way it works with jury service. We would still keep civil servants to take care of the nitty gritty stuff.

Trouble is nobody cares, people are far to busy being offended to do anything productive.

I am part Jewish myself and anti Zionist/global cabal.

a reply to: 19Bones79

Not one person has yet responded to the idea of a world without politicians.

We had to see where you were going with this first.

So you linked to an article written by a mystery novel author. He recommends banning politicians from Knesset. But anybody who then makes it into the Knesset becomes a politician, thereby banned.

There would be endless elections only with no one actually doing the business that the legislative body was formed to do.

As for me, I am a good (kinda) U.S. citizen. I read the Constitution. It states how people get into public office. It would be unconstitutional to not have people in those offices. Those people in office are politicians by virtue of being in those offices.

We Americans (myself anyway) value anarchy (absence of monarch) as much as the next guy, but anarchy (absence of order) is a bit too much.

Give me politicians or give me death!
(by give I mean: let me vote. Death seems harsh too.)

Let me vote for politicians or call me names!
(that sounds better)

Now I will go to the holy shrine and burn incense to the holy constitution.

a reply to: surfer_soul

Politicians would be replaced by members of the public drawn up by lot, the same way it works with jury service.

So drafts are good and voting bad?

I demand that High School drop outs be allowed to pass the nation's laws! And they can't be fired because they're draftees.

a reply to: dashen

I assure you that's not the case. And now I'm in the minefield of your suspicions. I can't change your mind, but if this site remains up long enough hopefully you'll get a better idea of how I think and how my sometimes twisted humor works.

originally posted by: pthena
a reply to: surfer_soul

Politicians would be replaced by members of the public drawn up by lot, the same way it works with jury service.

So drafts are good and voting bad?

I demand that High School drop outs be allowed to pass the nation's laws! And they can't be fired because they're draftees.

It worked for the ancient Greeks and it works for the Jury service. Just like the Jury they are temporary positions, they are compensated of course. It would do away with career politicians and the corruption that clings to them. What makes you think it would consist of high school dropouts? It would consist of mix of people from different backgrounds and ages, gender etc... A true reflection of the country.

What’s so great about voting when 51% of people get to dictate something 49% are against? It’s mob rule essentially, how is it in a country the size of America there is only a choice between a senile old man and silly old man, as in the up coming election?

Politician are the people who choose how spend the money 'collected' from the citizens.
What would happen if no one collected an spent a portion of your effort ?

a reply to: surfer_soul

Just like the Jury they are temporary positions,

Just how temporary? Two weeks?
At least in jury selection, the prosecution and the defense get to reject potential jurors.

Who would get to reject potential legislators? And on what basis?

What makes you think it would consist of high school dropouts?

The World renowned Physicians, Physicists, Economists, etc. may find some loophole to get out of the public service, "The Institute can't guarantee to keep my position open. I would be taking a massive cut in salary."

The High School dropouts would be like, "Sweeeeeeet! Pay raise."

a reply to: pthena

By temporary there would be a maximum term of say 6 months if an individual only wanted to do two weeks, the minimum amount of time required I’d guess, they could.

There would be a selection process worked out and ratified by a legal team, you would have to be a resident of a country for a number of years and have an address, and with no current mental health issues that affect your daily functioning. Think of a job application form to fill out that would have to have referees for example.

There would be no getting out or loopholes once selected, compensation equivalent to the individuals earnings would be awarded(Jeff Bezos would have to be an exception haha)

A legal team would be on hand to advice and help out with all the legislation and specialists in Economics, education etc... available to advise in their relative departments. There would be no lobbyists though and no bias on part of the specialist advisors, if there were, both sides of the argument would have to be presented just like in a court of law with the defence and prosecution. The public would also be taken into account on decisive issues, but all decisions would rest with the people drawn up by lot.

Should bad legislation be made it can be revised and changed at a later date with the same system, like a appeals court.

a reply to: surfer_soul

I'm beginning to think that this thread is intended to be a thought experiment. Solutions easier imagined than actually put into place.

So if we take your solution and tried to put it into effect we would need a Constitutional Amendment that would effectively scrap the existing constitution and replace it with a new one.

That would meet with considerable resistance from all sides.
Perhaps that was the purpose that the OP had in mind: The unlikelihood.

a reply to: surfer_soul

Thank you for responding and I appreciate your input!

a reply to: pthena

Politicians accomplish nothing. Let elected representatives of each industry offer the most experienced solutions. Politicians are psoor middlemen trying to take a cut and open to the highest bidder.

With blockchain technology people should be able to vote on things from an app.