highest-ranking U.S. military affairs analyst sucided aged 52

a reply to: worldstarcountry

You know That’s all subjective too. I remember 30 years ago there was a murder in the Chicagoland area the kid was like 18 that committed the murder.The headline was he had a Jason complex, derived from the film Halloween.

Reading further into the article it reads and I’m paraphrasing, Detectives investigating the case found a hockey mask hanging on the wall in the boys room.

Thats it. That’s all it took for them to make the connection to Halloween.

Also interesting how they had control of narrative even then.

a reply to: MindBodySpiritComplex

Imagine a female serial killer that can hypnotize her victims, marry them, and then have them kill themselves.

Perish the thought.

originally posted by: Gothmog

His wife, who had just married him weeks earlier, told The Intercept that she was in her car in the driveway, trying to get away from Schinella when she witnessed his suicide.

Wait , what ?
That does not sound very newlyweddish , does it ?
Family problems ?
Be my guess.

What did he have on the Clinton's and when did they figure that out? That appears to be the next logical question.

originally posted by: Gothmog
a reply to: MindBodySpiritComplex

After... so not related to her "trying to get away" from him. Why is this even mentioned unless crime is implied? Was he involved in non-consensual BDSM scenarios or is that just the uneasy association that we, the public are supposed to have?

Hell , if I had married someone and found a collection like that , I would have left them too .
And immediately reported it to the police.

I am a demon hunter before I would ever be a demon apologists yet I feel that S&M while vile sounding are not illegal nor is owning a Gun as a CIA agent.... Nothing burgers for the police.

It has to be more than that. Either he knew some bad stuff on someone big or he was caught in a trap of his own making with pedo stuff is my guess.

yep,

BOOM!

originally posted by: MindBodySpiritComplex
a reply to: EndtheMadnessNow

Anthony Schinella

source

BOOM?

a reply to: zatara

Right? I am in possession of a large BDSM collection too and I tell you it is not something you can hide from an adult person. It's a closet, locked with magnet locks and if I had a husband, how could I hide a whole closet from him? You just don't throw it into a box and if, the collection was not "large". The last thing someone doing this wants is to untangle stuff in an erotic environment. It is the ultimate lust killer.

Plus 24 weapons with tons of ammunition hidden? I call bull# on this one. If it was there, she almost had to know about it. That being said... if it was not in a hidden room or something and hey, even that is questionable.

originally posted by: 19Bones79
a reply to: MindBodySpiritComplex

Imagine a female serial killer that can hypnotize her victims, marry them, and then have them kill themselves.

Perish the thought.

That is why suicide could be a murder instead. She was a nice looking wife and you could've argued he was distraught she was leaving after two weeks.

With his level of knowledge I can't let it go that this stinks of a cover up and a victim getting rubbed out mob style. It smells but just what happened will probably be a mystery.

a reply to: MindBodySpiritComplex


Sounds to me that he was having marital problems and as often happens this can cause people to kill themselves. Hard to argue it didnt happen when you have a witness unless you think his wife killed him??

Awesome digging around here. Classic ATS I love it!! She sure seems like a honeypot to me. As someone suggested earlier, I believe she was placed, found something very incriminating by design, and he made his choice as she was driving away after telling him the truth and was going to expose his secret. He was running after her begging her not to do it, while being heartbroken. Perfectly executed.

a reply to: ThatDamnDuckAgain

Seeing how strongly some here are repulsed by the mere mentioning of BDSM just lends additional weight to my impression that it was brought up with the sole purpose of smearing Schinella and as a warning to anyone who might want to dig deeper in his supposed suicide.

On a personal level I don't get the strong negative reactions to kink/BDSM which I also enjoy. Outside the bedroom I have absolutely zero interest in dominating other people or being dominated by them. Hence my wife comparing me to Tom Bombadil from the Lord of the Rings as I wrote in the other thread. Respect of free will - both mine and that of others is extremely important to me. Live and let live!

a reply to: MindBodySpiritComplex
I feel the same. I don't look down upon that sort of thing. Me and my wife are not into bdsm but we do not have what would be considered normal sex. She is very giving and I've been fortunate that she has allowed me to try things I've always wanted to try on her and she loves it. To each there own, as long as you don't force it on others.

But as I've said, I believe his death was by design and they "sprinkled" some bdsm for added effects. Very well planned out and executed

a reply to: MindBodySpiritComplex

BDSM is to opposite of what most people think it is, trust and respect is/should always be the basis. The TV and media did a good job painting us in a certain light and cliche. After all we are beasts and it is unnatural (rolling my eyes).

a reply to: 772STi

Not sure if we should pull out terms here, minors could read this so maybe...

a reply to: ThatDamnDuckAgain
Fixed, not a problem. Thanks

a reply to: 772STi
All good
Nothing to thank me for

a reply to: ThatDamnDuckAgain

I think the strong reactions may be a mix of the mind being drawn to the most extreme versions on what is in reality a very wide spectrum and the unfounded worry that if this becomes more acceptable it will be kinda forced on everyone. The latter probably also explains some of the homophobia. A deep fear of having to participate against one's own will.

a reply to: MindBodySpiritComplex
Hm... while I agree with a lot, not sure about the homophobia.

I have a profile in a top contact network (you get vetted thoroughly with real ID, face and address) for couples and singles of all kinds of interests, but my profile was more BDSM and I registered as a BI

One would think people that join there, do not have the common prejudices. One would also not believe the amount of (partly very stupid) questions I got. Mainly from women/wifes looking out for a menage a troi with their husband, about my stance on violence.

How many times did I tell them that a good top/dom never screams, never needs escalating violence because that's not the point at all. Maybe, except for some more extreme armchair sadists or masochists that want unrealistic things and scenarios. Like you wrote, the spectrum is wide.

I think we better get back on topic else our posts will just get removed. There are a few new articles but they are all based on the Intercept article I quoted from. But case in point - look at these headlines:


Top US spy who killed himself in front of wife 'had stash of S&M gear and guns'


SPY SHAMES Top-ranking US spy with ‘hidden stockpile of guns and S&M gear’ shoots himself dead in front of wife


REVEALED: One of the highest ranking US spies shot himself dead while his new wife tried to get away from him - and haul of bondage and S&M gear along with 24 guns and thousands of rounds of ammunition were found at his home


Looks like "mission accomplished" regarding character assassination. No new facts just a new emphasis.


Please continue off topic discussion via PM or add aspects relevant to the thread topic.

Weeks from retirement and just married earlier that week? What on earth? That’s not that mental state of a top ranking military analyst who’s in that position in life. Unless life with her really looked that bad?

a reply to: MindBodySpiritComplex

Interesting update re Schinella suicide:

Wife of top US spy who shot himself dead claims he wanted to murder her and 'take her to the afterlife' before she fled the home

Sara Corcoran, 46, said that Anthony Ming Schinella, the most senior military affairs analyst in U.S. intelligence, was suffering from PTSD after being involved in four wars, and after almost 30 years in the CIA.  

She said Schinella was fascinated by Egyptian concepts of the underworld.
'My husband was planning on murdering me. He had talked about taking me to the afterlife before,' she told The Sun. 
'We would often watch documentaries on Egypt, Valley of the Kings, pharaohs.'

True or not this looks like a very interesting detail that has been communicated deliberately. Yes, this could simply be the result of a mental health problem but I think there is more to it.