The 10 countries with NO Covid infections are also past Nuclear Test Sites.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Fukushima fall out spread 6800 miles .

You didn't even understand what I posted apparently it went over your head. Take a look at the GIF again see if you can figure it out . 😂

a reply to: Fallingdown

The Original Post is about United States nuclear testing, try reading it.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: Fallingdown

The Original Post is about United States nuclear testing, try reading it.

More proof that you didn't read or understand the OP.

According to a Fox news article I was reading the other day,
across the globe, there are 10 UN member countries with NO (0) recorded COVID-19
cases.

All Pacific Ocean islands, they are:

Republic of Palau
Micronesia
The Republic of Nauru
The Republic of the Marshall Islands
The Republic of Kiribati
The Solomon Islands
Tuvalu
The Independent State of Samoa
The Republic of Vanuatu
The Kingdom of Tonga

NO COVID INFECTIONS, NOT EVEN 1
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I noticed where all of these places were...

It occurred to me that each of these islands were
directly involved in the Nuclear testing from 1947 through to the 60's.

They are noted to have had strict border control in the pandemic, but I do not
believe it is a coincidence they were also ground zero for the worst nuclear
pollution we have ever done on this Earth.

Most were ground zero blast sites or under atmospheric tests and all were involved
with the fallout.

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Other notable sites of nuclear radiation.... As of Aug 15 2020
I do not know if there is any correlation here, but the cases are low.

SITE Cases Deaths

Hiroshima 452 3
Nagasaki 204 3
Fukushima 128 0
Chernobyl (no specific data found, needs to be looked at)

What do you think ATS? Does this simple data show a possible correlation with
vastly reduced COVID infections at sites where massive radioactivity has occurred?

If so, it warrants a lot of further study.

P.S.: It should also be noted that the state of Nevada does not seem to follow any correlation, as we all know that this is where
the first A-Bomb were tested.

It didn't say anywhere it only concerned United States nuclear testing. He gave the dates 1947 to 1960's . Apparently you naïvely thought the United States was the only country that tested any nuclear weapons through that Period.

Here's just a few .



So let's tally your position up so far in this thread .

You attempted to refute the OP's theory by concentrating on nuclear testing. Proof of headline surfing because you didn't consider the fallout . Backtrack and flailed desperately about fall out while not being smart enough to know that fallout is spread by the tides too. ( that was the image of the ocean currents I posted that went over your head )

Now you prove again that he didn't read the OP claiming it was exclusively about the US.

Well I'm sitting in the Marshall Islands riding out the pandemic, and I can tell you that the lack of cases is due to a total border closure in early March. They are just now allowing a FEW essential workers back in with a 3 week quarantine on the army base at Kwajalein. Marshallese have been particularly affected by covid in the US mainland due to co-morbidities, so they are absolutely terrified of letting it into their home islands, and rightly so.

a reply to: Fallingdown

Show me which of the Soviet Or United Kingdom tests created fallout in the islands he listed since you've now dropped the Chernobyl and Fukashima angles.

a reply to: Fallingdown (or OP)

Okay, I'll play Devil's advocate.

The dangerous isotope is Americium 241, and it's 430 year Half-Life.

iodine-13 - 8.04 days
caesium-137 - 30 years
strontium-90 - 29.12 years
plutonium-241 - 14.4 years (decays into...)
Americium-241 - 430 years

The Islands that are most dangerous are The Marshall Islands, particularly Bikini Island.

www.sciencealert.com...

Their tests also showed that Bikini Island contained up to 1,000 times more plutonium than was discovered at either Chernobyl or Fukushima (the Japanese prefecture where an earthquake set off a nuclear disaster in 2011).

So high radiation levels in isolated parts of Oceania.

And there is a consistent relationship with fallout and disease.

The best way to see if it spread is to check cancer rates. Belarus experienced most of the fallout and that was shown by radiation-caused cancers and birth defects. Surest way to know if a place is irradiated or not.

That or check soil samples for isotope levels, but apart from places like The Marshall Islands (or other direct testing sites) there are negligible levels to behold.

Cancers associated with high dose exposure include leukemia, breast, bladder, colon, liver, lung, esophagus, ovarian, multiple myeloma, and stomach cancers.

Image A:



Image B:



The cancer most associated is Leukaemia. At 8.9/100,000 Oceania sees a lower rate than world average. Breast and Prostate are the most common in ANY country regardless of radiation levels.

Their main cancer concerns are due to higher percentages of tobacco usage. The usage spread during/after WW2 and the prevalence of GI care packages of Lucky Strikes, potted meat, and Hershey bars. Now lung Cancer leads the way. This makes one MORE susceptible to covid-19.

a reply to: chr0naut

Have you considered that perhaps it is because they have tiny populations who are poor, and don't travel, and nor do people want to travel there?

The meek shall inherit the world...

originally posted by: Fallingdown
So Augustus let's address your last position . You said the OP only concerned the US .

Were you right or wrong ?

Ask the Original Poster if I'm right or wrong, he wrote it.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

See everyone 😂

Sorry I took so long to reply. But you don't require much effort so I've only been replying on commercial breaks .





Edit;

This discussion has no place on this thread I'm done .

If you want to continue go back to my other thread .

Sorry mods

originally posted by: charlyv

originally posted by: MRinder
a reply to: charlyv

So are you proposing we nuke ourselves to prevent the spread and decrease the death rate from Covid?

If so, sounds like sound Democrat thinking to me.

Are you f# kidding me? Is this what you got out of that?
I am showing a possible correlation with radiation, and nothing more so do not attempt to put words in my mouth. Thanks.

You are showing a possible correlation with lightly populated islands.
Try Easter Island as well....

Wow, it sets a nerve off in people.

All I am showing is that this area, where many of those tests were done, are the places that Fox news said that there were 0 covid infections. At no time, did I ever say that this was the reason for for 0 infections. It is a statistical correlation, and that is all that it is.



I know a lot of it is due to diligence in border crossings and lockdown.

I know that many of these places are not vastly populated.

The fact that they are all covid free, is still a statistic worth noting.

You can tear it apart at your hearts content. You can not, however deny the correlation, no matter what the real cause is.

This is the way science works, and I am totally about the gauntlet of scientific scrutiny.

A statistic / correlation is just that. Unproven but it is a handle on a door that allows the truth to come in. Period.

a reply to: charlyv

Nevada had over 1,000 detonations in the NNSS, including 100 that were aboveground tests. That's a lot of radiation going around from tests, and quite a bit of fallout. They currently have 66,087 total cases, and 1200 dead.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

I asked you .

You said the OP exclusively dealt with the US .

Were you right or wrong .

You should read this thread

originally posted by: Fallingdown
You said the OP exclusively dealt with the US .

Were you right or wrong .

Ask the Original Poster if I'm right or wrong.

originally posted by: Fallingdown
a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Fukushima fall out spread 6800 miles .

You didn't even understand what I posted apparently it went over your head. Take a look at the GIF again see if you can figure it out . 😂

Fukushima fallout can be detected in every region on Earth. So can Chernobyl fallout.

Sad but true....

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: charlyv

Nevada had over 1,000 detonations in the NNSS, including 100 that were aboveground tests. That's a lot of radiation going around from tests, and quite a bit of fallout. They currently have 66,087 total cases, and 1200 dead.

I just have a strong feeling this correlation isnt valid.

Sure radiation kills pathogens but the scale is miniscule I don't see how it would reduce cases in any noticeable way.

There's gotta be a better explanation for all this.

I wish we could investigate their diets and locales closer to look for patterns.

a reply to: muzzleflash

Low population density combined with immediate and continuing restrictions on travel to and from their countries. There are also pretty much no direct flights to any of them, unless you go from New Zealand or Australia, both of which have more or less stopped international travel.

a reply to: Zaphod58

That doesnt explain Hiroshima and Nagasaki tho.

The reasons why could be different than the reasons on these islands.

I really support your theory for the islands tho. If they don't bring it in - it doesnt infect anyone.