Is Covid-19 Preparing Us For First Contact?

a reply to: MissSmartypants

definitely interesting

but I remember FL did post this recently

"We will do with ETI signals what we did with UFOs, that is, to deploy stories and to use relevant data at times when we deem it convenient for our interests. If we can conceal our ASAT tests behind a curtain of allegedly ETI signals, we will do it; we will seed into culture the idea that there is one or two radio sources out there that are clearly artificial and nonterrestrial, while at the same time we will keep on deploying our space-based weapons. ETI signals will be used as a cover story for our SDI clandestine tests, much as we did with UFO stories in the past"

from their blog

Becomi ng Aliens - Supressing ETI signals from radioastronomical observations


seems like its all just a cover for advanced space weapons testing , maybe , maybe not

originally posted by: MissSmartypants

originally posted by: kwakakev
a reply to: MissSmartypants

One of the points the researchers brought up is that when we receive an unequivocal message from aliens in outer space .... just who will decide how or if to respond

www.bibliotecapleyades.net... cultivos12.htm

I see covid more as first fumigation rather than first contact. Contact got established a long time ago so why don't we know? It is not in their interest.

Thank goodness I'm on the Do Not Fumigate list.

And actually you make a good point.
Decisions regarding first contact won't be made by either the scientists or the politicians. The decisions will be (or already have been) made by the Powers That Be.... the Bilderberger's, the Bohemian Grove attendees, the unelected one percent that rule the world.

I agree with that assessment, except for the part about 78,000,000 people being in those sorta-secret rule-the-world clubs. Maybe more like 0.01%?

Imo Covid might be a side effect of push for disclosure by certain people. It's not in the favor of certain species and it might be a warning.
I love how the article talks about radio signals while we're about to adopt the quantum communication in the next decade...and we're still extremely primitive.

originally posted by: MindBodySpiritComplex
It certainly feels like we are being prepared for the next chapter in the narrative.

Coronavirus Could Preview What Will Happen When Alien Life Reaches Earth


Could Mars samples brought to Earth pose a threat to our planet? What the coronavirus (and 'Andromeda Strain') can teach us.


NASA needs to be wary of viruses from outer space


Stanford’s Scott Hubbard contributed to new ‘planetary quarantine’ report reviewing risks of alien contamination

I haven't clicked on your links yet (though I will shortly) but you make a very valid point. If we are ever to have meaningful contact with aliens the problem of cross contamination of bacteria and viruses between us and the aliens must first be addressed. Presumably space faring aliens will have already figured out how to control that.

And it brings to mind the "uncontacted tribes" in the world whom we protect from the human pathogens of which they have no immunity to due to their isolation by prohibiting unauthorized contact with them. Could aliens have some similar policy regarding us?



I'm also reminded of descriptions of alien clothing that I've read over the years describing them as being a one piece seamless outfit that fits like a second skin. Could the alien "onesie" be a type of full body condom?

originally posted by: dogstar23

originally posted by: MissSmartypants

originally posted by: kwakakev
a reply to: MissSmartypants

One of the points the researchers brought up is that when we receive an unequivocal message from aliens in outer space .... just who will decide how or if to respond

www.bibliotecapleyades.net... cultivos12.htm

I see covid more as first fumigation rather than first contact. Contact got established a long time ago so why don't we know? It is not in their interest.

Thank goodness I'm on the Do Not Fumigate list.

And actually you make a good point.
Decisions regarding first contact won't be made by either the scientists or the politicians. The decisions will be (or already have been) made by the Powers That Be.... the Bilderberger's, the Bohemian Grove attendees, the unelected one percent that rule the world.

I agree with that assessment, except for the part about 78,000,000 people being in those sorta-secret rule-the-world clubs. Maybe more like 0.01%?

Sorry...must be my "Mandala Effect" flaring up again. I'm sure I said 0.01%.

originally posted by: MissSmartypants
a reply to: Phage

The points they make are valid and they bring up the problem that important decisions concerning humanity aren't always made by qualified people.

Who decides who is qualified? In the old days, kings and emperors made those decisions. These days it's done by faceless bureaucrats. Are academics more qualified to make those decisions? There's probably a good reason why there has never really been a successful technocracy. Science is not a search for answers but rather questions.

originally posted by: sapien82
a reply to: MissSmartypants

definitely interesting

but I remember FL did post this recently

"We will do with ETI signals what we did with UFOs, that is, to deploy stories and to use relevant data at times when we deem it convenient for our interests. If we can conceal our ASAT tests behind a curtain of allegedly ETI signals, we will do it; we will seed into culture the idea that there is one or two radio sources out there that are clearly artificial and nonterrestrial, while at the same time we will keep on deploying our space-based weapons. ETI signals will be used as a cover story for our SDI clandestine tests, much as we did with UFO stories in the past"

from their blog

Becomi ng Aliens - Supressing ETI signals from radioastronomical observations


seems like its all just a cover for advanced space weapons testing , maybe , maybe not

I went to your link and what I found most noteworthy was this quote...

"Tell the world we have detected an ETI signal; silence our orbital jammers for civilian radioastronomers to also detect the signal, let's start a new era, and let's get the public excited all about it. 

"Orbital jammers"? Are we preventing civilian astronomers from detecting alien signals?

a reply to: Blue Shift

Who decides who is qualified? 

Exactly the point of the article. And the question that must be answered.

It wouldn't surprise me if aliens only make open contact with civilizations that have a one world government. And perhaps also with emerging civilizations without modern technology (think "ancient aliens" scenario).

a reply to: Blue Shift

Science is not a search for answers but rather questions.

It's the old "chicken and egg" conundrum. Which came first.... the question or the answer?

originally posted by: MissSmartypants
a reply to: Blue Shift

Science is not a search for answers but rather questions.

It's the old "chicken and egg" conundrum. Which came first.... the question or the answer?

All the "answers" in science are provisional. Can't really make important decisions that way, other than to have them be tentative. Scientists built the bomb, by it was a regular guy from Missouri who dropped it. No peer review on that one.

originally posted by: Blue Shift

originally posted by: MissSmartypants
a reply to: Blue Shift

Science is not a search for answers but rather questions.

It's the old "chicken and egg" conundrum. Which came first.... the question or the answer?

All the "answers" in science are provisional. Can't really make important decisions that way, other than to have them be tentative. Scientists built the bomb, by it was a regular guy from Missouri who dropped it. No peer review on that one.

However incomplete our scientific knowledge base may be....it's still complete enough to be of practical use. Hence this internet thingy you're using.

a reply to: kwakakev

There is always that big possibility that if aliens did arrive here, that they are likely to bring foreign organism that would be potentially deadly to us.

Many people died after being exposed to foreigners from other lands right here on this planet.

I think it would be a bit reckless not to at least consider the possibility of a threat from disease, from extra terrestrials.

originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn
a reply to: kwakakev

There is always that big possibility that if aliens did arrive here, that they are likely to bring foreign organism that would be potentially deadly to us.

Many people died after being exposed to foreigners from other lands right here on this planet.

I think it would be a bit reckless not to at least consider the possibility of a threat from disease, from extra terrestrials.

Common misconception resulting from a lack of understanding with regard to infectious organisms.

Native Earth populations succumbed to diseases brought to them by invaders from the other lands of this earth.

Other Lands, not other Worlds.

It is extremely unlikely that the inhabitants of an entirely different planet would share any DNA native to Earth; not to mention any DNA sequence recognizable as “human”, nor capable of interacting with human DNA.

Aliens may have acid for blood, but alien “bugs” probably won’t even recognize Humans as “infect-able”.

a reply to: Bhadhidar

Oh yeah?

Then how come the Martians all died when they tried to invade Earth?

Huh? How come?

a reply to: Phage

Because H.G. Wells didn’t know about DNA?

And, as an early proponent of socialism, Wells likely felt that the defeat of an overwhelmingly powerful enemy by something so common that the ordinary man takes little to no notice of its existence presented a certain ideological, and poetic, justice.

a reply to: Bhadhidar

Buzzkill

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Bhadhidar

Buzzkill

Apologies.

I am still having difficulty with this concept you humans call

“Humor”?

a reply to: Bhadhidar

No problem.

Just keep your virii to yourselves and we'll be cool.

a reply to: MissSmartypants

Yeh the whole blog post is interesting

I have no idea , but it wouldnt surprise me , I done a thread recently on another of their blog posts
and it appears to be about the death of three astronomers in accidents
but apparently they were wanting to look at a specific region of space dp2147
apparently its DENIED, they think they were killed to keep it quiet

well thats what I get from their post

who knows what they are up to in earth orbit

Engelbert Humperdinck ?

a reply to: Phage

Oh yeah?

Then how come the Martians all died when they tried to invade Earth?

Huh? How come?