I would speak of Christ and the Anti-Christ.

a reply to: pthena

What I fear is hurting people, and I know I have, and will do so in the future.

My friend, you understand the plight of our Father and his Sons truly.

a reply to: glend

entheology.com...
Patmos

Also, an entheogen known as “Gramofonche”, or Morning Glory, is a part of the flora of Patmos. The question of whether Morning Glory was ever used ritualistically in this area is often widely debated. But all it takes is speaking to a local Shaman, or simply looking to artwork from early cultures such as the Mayans and the Aztecs to see that Morning Glory was indeed a key part of Shamanic ritual as clearly seen in this image below of Ololiuqui and an Aztec Shaman:

If take some '___' and write a book, would you follow me?

a reply to: carsforkids

You can't imagine the Glory.
But OP is right IMO. It will take a conscious decision not see it.

Hey I used to go to a church where they spoke in tongues. Looking back I think it was group think not a intervention by "god"

I have seen many miracles.

I've yet to see an amputee grow back a leg.

a reply to: pthena

Yep only 33 million more hindu gods to learn and you will be on-top of everything including shiva. Buddhism ia a breeze in comparison - no Gods. Btw think Brahma breaths out for 300 billion years and preserves souls in himself before next breath. Just saying.

I have never read the Tao te chi book. Was it about pooping or was that zen.

a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

Seeing God in burning bush doesn't inspire me. But there are many that don't see certain prophets as inspired.

a reply to: glend

yeah. Funny how since then there aren't prophets worthy for jehovah to repeat the trick

originally posted by: glend
a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

Seeing God in burning bush doesn't inspire me.

When looking at a flower (or a burning bush).....there is God!

Gospel of Thomas saying 77b.
Jesus said: "Split wood, I am there. Lift up a rock, you will find me there."

a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

I've yet to see an amputee grow back a keg.

That's some argument you have there.

yeah. Funny how since then there aren't prophets worthy for jehovah to repeat the trick

And these are good arguments in your mind?

a reply to: carsforkids

That's some argument you have there.

Not an argument, just an observation of the absence of your god

And these are good arguments in your mind?

I dont need good arguments for my mind. I use rational thought, like I said I believe and have seen miracles, I just dont trust your imposter demiurge

a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight
A keg?
Not a leg?

Just an observation.

a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

I use rational thought,

And it's rational for you to boast about what you think God should be?
Is it rational to ridicule others because of what they believe because
of scripture and scholars and history? When you have nothing better
to offer in it's stead. What is it light? We should all follow you and
your little thought up religion? Is that what's bothering you?

a reply to: Itisnowagain

"Jesus said: "Split wood, I am there."

Hope you don't have a wood heater. The man has been through enough I say!

There is interest story of Khadro-la who walked across the himalayas to India seeking the Dali Lama. When Dali Lama saw her it was obvious that spirits were chanelling through her body. But they couldn't accertain the authority of the spirits without help from known spirits to check their identity in the spirit world. As this documentary explains, without their help, they wouldn't have realized that some of the most powerful demi-god spirits were channeling through Khadro-la, herself a very powerful spirit. She was confirmed as a state oracle,

Unfortunately books like Torah have stories from many prophets over the ages. None of them confirmed. So even though we can seek inspiration from words. Its perhaps another thing to take them as gospel.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

fixed

a reply to: carsforkids

Where have I said its alright to follow me?

Show me why your god has not appeared since the burning bush with a set of commandments.

Why should I offer a substitute dogma?

This is a discussion board.

If you dont wish to discuss go join the JW's or a closed Brethren meeting. Destroy your PC lest your mind be polluted.....

a reply to: iammrhappy86

1Tim 6:10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

a reply to: glend

I have never read the Tao te chi book. Was it about pooping or was that zen.

Tao te Ching actually. I misspelled it before.
The pooping was the ignorant outsider ( me ) explaining what he thought some people were saying.

Here's another translation of Book 1:

BLAKNEY, RAYMOND BERNARD (1955)

There are ways but the Way is uncharted;
There are names but not nature in words:
Nameless indeed is the source of creation
But things have a mother and she has a name.
The secret waits for the insight Of eyes unclouded by longing;
Those who are bound by desire See only the outward container.
These two come paired but distinct By their names.
Of all things profound, Say that their pairing is deepest,
The gate to the root of the world.
Tao te Ching - Chapter 1 in 76 versions

There is a false/manmade/artificial duality which I avoided already: the righteous/wicked, the us/them, the saved/lost, worthy/unworthy.

It is quite obvious that Tao te Ching speaks of a real duality "Of all things profound, Say that their pairing is deepest,"
So I approached it with a humble point of view; not seeking to find "the Way" but rather a way. Rather than grabbing too quickly for "The secret" which "waits for the insight Of eyes unclouded by longing;" I admitted to myself that I am "bound by desire" and hence would likely "See only the outward container".

But the outward container is mind blowing enough!
Decades worth of information scraps came together in my mind, like puzzle pieces suddenly fitting together. Then I posted this in the Archeotheology thread. That's how the puzzle picture is forming!

I haven't even read more of Tao te Ching because I'm just still standing there in "The gate to the root of the world".

My tentative conclusion is that Reality is Dualistic and not Monistic, but that there are artificial dualities which come from the dysfunction of religion which must be resisted for the good of individuals, society, and the World at large.

Bonus track:

a reply to: glend

Seeing God in burning bush

Some hair is naturally curly.
God did not give us straightening irons to straighten the naturally kinky places.

a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

Should one appear as in a Mighty Flash, if he once was agreed upon to be sent away and return only if his Sons Call to Him as One?

Only to please the few whoso claim "Oh if you be so Mighty, then Come Now! Or deny your existence before us."

a reply to: iammrhappy86

mmmkkkkkk...carry on, or not

a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

Fair enough

Show me why your god has not appeared since the burning bush with a set of commandments.

There are better ways to ask but abrasive is fine. OP has
touched on your answer. And as someone who's studied two
of the three religions of Abraham I thought you would know.

Jesus Christ the one who's name should be forgotten. Like so
many countless others who suffered the cross in those days.
And yet today his is the most remembered and truly by far the
most powerful. What you've done is come to the conclusion
that suits you. By pointing to false snake worshiping religions
and TV evangelists. You simply fell victim to people who are
no more believers than you are. But I doubt you even want
to understand the huge distance between believers. And snake
oil salesman telling you God needs another dime. True believers
would never parade around and pretend they had some magical
power to heal of find my car keys for me.

I make you a promise tho Light you shouldn't be so cynical.

We are simply past the time of Gods provisions to us.
We have Jesus we have the Bible and we have a thinking
brain that should be able to figure it out each for him/her
self.