people are exposed to 10,000 more droplets from a MASKLESS person

a reply to: solve

I'm out in the sun cycling most days in 35º 90% humidity tropical heat for an hour or two. No it doesn't impede on exercise, nor have I seen any significant changes in O2 levels if any. Very slight heart rate increase if wearing a heavy mask with filters if I'm pumping hard, a standard cloth or surgical mask makes no difference whatsoever.

Yeah it's an inconvenience, it makes you a lil sweatier and sure I'd prefer not to wear one - but for the sake of OTHERS that might be at risk that I might infect if I might be asymptomatic or on the Cusp I'm happy enough to do it.

And anyhow it's the law over here and has been since this thing began (and now a mask+face shield is required while in the workplace or commuting).

Not for one second do I think that a mask will stop this thing dead in its tracks, but wearing one might slow the spread though an accidental sneeze or the likes, which to save the life of someone who needs an intensive care bed (for anything) that would otherwise not be able to get one if healthcare is on the brink.

Personally I've liked the idea of pulling off the bandaid, screwing social distancing, survival of the fittest n' all. But look at it realistically and all that's gonna happen is that healthcare systems will collapse within a couple of weeks.

And I'm pretty confident enough bugs will get through a mask, on our clothes, groceries etc that suddenly becoming hyper susceptible to other illnesses will not be a problem unless you are going with a full blown N95 respirator.

originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: Vasa Croe
No, you totally missed it.

Even a single layer of 1mm t-shirt material becomes 10m thick if you want to use your water balloon analogy and water isn't just going to fly out of the other end of a 10m thick barrier.

My point is about your flawed analogy and not whether homemade or CVS masks work as well as N95 masks.

LOL....so the size of the mask increases, but not the size of the water balloon? Not to mention speed calculations.....that water balloon would have to be going supersonic if we are going to do apples to apples....

Talk about flawed.....

a reply to: Vasa Croe

What are you LOLing about? You increased the size of a droplet to that of a water balloon (that was already changed) but the thickness of the mask material to only that of chain-link fence.

Stop automatically playing defense and think about it.

Why would the speed have to change for it to be apples to apples?

originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: Vasa Croe

What are you LOLing about? You increased the size of a droplet to that of a water balloon (that was already changed) but the thickness of the mask material to only that of chain-link fence.

Stop automatically playing defense and think about it.

Why would the speed have to change for it to be apples to apples?

Cool.....you go on with knowing more than those that make masks and know what they filter.

a reply to: Vasa Croe

I never said anything about them or how masks are rated.

This is about your flawed analogy and what it missed in its oversimplification.

Dailymail is fake

If this is the way life is going to be from now on--living with fraidy cat germaphobe flake tools--then Covid kill me now please!

Oh wait, Covid can only handle the job with regards to the sickly and elderly, as if it were just a strain of common flu.

Well schlitz! Looks like I'm stuck on the ship of fools yet again.

Question

Do we dispose of the masks in sealed biohazard containers, because it’s such a deadly virus, or do we just biff them in the trash?

Question

Do we dispose of the masks in sealed biohazard containers, because it’s such a deadly virus, or do we just biff them in the trash?

originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: Vasa Croe

I never said anything about them or how masks are rated.

This is about your flawed analogy and what it missed in its oversimplification.

My analogy isn't flawed. It is based on the fact I researched masks for a long time to grind Buffalo horn. Then I did more research on masks for spraying mold removal and paint. On top of that, I have a orthopedic surgeon in the family that I initially asked about masks and what level would block micron sizes.

See....I actually have real life experience with masks and have known about what they can and can't block for around 17 years.

You go on with whatever about what you think based off of large droplet tests you want. I can tell you factually that nothing under N99 will block a Covid19 particle from going through. N95 will block some. Medical masks MAY block them from coming out of the wearers mask. Homemade masks and the masks you buy at the grocery store do absolutely nothing.....they even state it on the box.

originally posted by: Breakthestreak
Question

Do we dispose of the masks in sealed biohazard containers, because it’s such a deadly virus, or do we just biff them in the trash?

I haven't washed mine in over a month. It smells like a gym sock, but try as I might, I just can't catch the damn sickness!

Hey you know what's funny? Pre-2019 no one ever gave a damn about how dirty shopping carts were. Now, you will get the death stare from 500 yards if someone sees you grabbing one that wasn't wiped down.

The only thing that's changed is public perception imagination.

Look. I wear a mask when I go out. To the store. Not the beach or park. Both sides feel it’s their “patriotic duty” to wear/not wear one.

Like many things in the US, if you want it to be so, legislate that sh!t nationally or stfu. Seriously. I’m over this whole peer pressure “red cough scare” crap. Stop IT. Wear one or don’t. But if our leaders DGAF, why should we? Change my mind. And YEAH, WE should be doing better. Almost like failure by design, and I don’t mean 45 alone. A national policy woulda been nice, but the cat’s out the bag. So....

Making citizens turn on one another so blatantly, is clearly straight from the Hegelian Dialectic playbook.

At this point...? I’m all for a bipartisan citizen inquiry into their whole thing. Seriously. Let’s figure this out before we choose up sides, ya know? Almost 6 months on, and we don’t know anything still except “our neighbor is gonna make me sick and kill my family”. Get over it.

The CFR is so low compared to the “168K” dead over half a year. Like how come they don’t talk about THAT? YES. 1 death is too many, but if you can’t smell what’s being shoved down our throats, I dunno what else to say.

a reply to: NarcolepticBuddha

100 percent NB

So now people spread the infectious Main Sewer News propaganda on in ATS

Before anyone even should jump in to mask issues, they should first understand the fake infectious nature of viruses in general, but that is too much to ask here i know.

The big virus hoax


What about the part.1 in the 80s ? ...HIV causing AIDS ?? umm that was total lie and still is, but you folls here jump right to the part.2 and start believing it.

Before His Death, PCR Test Inventor Blew the "BIG SHAM" Wide Open!


Oh and they announced the whole virus phenomenon many decades before there was even a technology to even show them , yet even today they cant show evidence using electron microscope that purified virus would infect cells, and the pictures lol ...Well they just claim that the images are viruses, then they add their own "artistic" look to the nice photos...


People get dumber and dumber, and it gets easyer to them to do the mass hypnosis with the propaganda, fear porn and inject lies .


Mask dont protect, they lower oxygen and raise carbon dioxide, what do you think it will effect to your brain ? Maybe it wont matter anymore lol


COVID-19 -- is it really about a virus? (VIDEO)

a reply to: Vasa Croe
Who said anything about blocking Covid19 particles? That is why it keeps going over your head.

Your analogy is flawed because mask material doesn't look like a chain-link fence to a droplet, regardless of droplet size.

And, there you go:

Medical masks MAY block them from coming out of the wearers mask.

Why would that be?

a reply to: Vasa Croe

Homemade masks and the masks you buy at the grocery store do absolutely nothing

You are wrong.
Utterly.
advances.sciencemag.org...
www.msn.com...
www.nejm.org...

originally posted by: NarcolepticBuddha

originally posted by: Breakthestreak
Question

Do we dispose of the masks in sealed biohazard containers, because it’s such a deadly virus, or do we just biff them in the trash?

I haven't washed mine in over a month. It smells like a gym sock

That is another reason why masks don't work, people don't wash their masks!
Even if they did, it still useless.

a reply to: CraftyArrow

I wash mine, and replace the folded paper towel insert. But even if I didn't it would still reduce the number and velocity of droplets I expel into the environment.

originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: Vasa Croe
Who said anything about blocking Covid19 particles? That is why it keeps going over your head.

Your analogy is flawed because mask material doesn't look like a chain-link fence to a droplet, regardless of droplet size.

And, there you go:

Medical masks MAY block them from coming out of the wearers mask.

Why would that be?

It would be because they are specifically made for surgeons and nurses in a sterile environment to keep their own breath from a patient.....and more specifically for staphylococcus....

Now if you actually understand what I am talking about then you would know staphylococcus particles are larger than Covid19.....

See.....these things have been heavily researched over time based on the medical community and uses. Staph infection is one of the, if not the, biggest issues with any surgery or patient in ICU or Operating Room.

Love your dedication to this, but let me know when a homemade mask blocks anything in a scientific study....

a reply to: Vasa Croe

Are staph bacilli not transmitted by droplets emitted while speaking?