When the time comes, will you get a COVID-19 vaccine?

We have discussed this and this is what we, our family has decided. We are decidedly pro-vaccine overall, because my Uncle went totally deaf as a child due to the measles.

We will not get the vaccine until after it has been out for at least 3 months. We will continue our current self isolation, masking and ridiculous over the top hygiene.

We want to see what the side effects turn out to be.

There was a thread on ATS about the current side effects in the testing of the most promising vaccine, and they don't sound pretty, with the vaccine said to only last 3-4 months needing a second dose which so far has generated severe side effects in 100% of those tested.

No one will be forced to get the vaccine because at first there won't be enough doses. There are 330 million people in the US and the nation is only contracting for 100 million doses to start.

So we'll let those who want to rush out and get it to do so and we will wait and see what happens to them first.

The Democrats have suggested that perhaps the first doses should go to mainly Black people or exclusively to Black people because they are so badly affected by the virus. So that will be the group to watch for side effects and what happens to them after getting the vaccine.

originally posted by: Tucket
Not interested, though prolly not much of a choice when Trump said the Military will be involved in administering the vaccines.

This is because of the massive numbers of people taking the vaccine. The military has a great system that is fast and efficient for administering vaccines. I know, we are retired military from retired military parents.

Every flu season our military base has drive through flu shots with a fantastic system that gets people in and out faster than you can believe. We get into 4 different lines, in our cars. First stop checks eligibility to get the shot, then hand you a clip board to fill out information. Second stop takes the clip board and a RN checks over the information. Third stop says who in your car is approved to get the shot. Fourth stop everyone sticks their arms out the windows and up to 4 people surround the cars and give injections. In this way up to 16 people are getting shots at the same time, very fast, we never waited more than 30 minutes total, and we were busy most of the time filling out the paperwork and having it checked over.


EVERYONE WILL NOT be forced to take the vaccine.

There will not be enough doses. Trump has already said the US will contract for 100 million doses. There are 330 million people in the US. So only 1/3 of the population will have access to the vaccine for quite awhile.

Abso-#ing-lutely not. If others want to be guinea pigs for the long-term unknowns, far be it from me to tell them not to, but I'm sure as hell not going with that gamble.

Talk to me in 15 or 20 years when we know what the real health fallout from a rushed vaccine is or isn't. I might consider it at that point in time. Or not.

I never get sick or have any disorders. I'm 100%.

You know what I do?
Rarely wash my hands.
I'll take a piss then eat with that hand.
Don't give a # lol.

The mask is a placebo.

Y'all aren't thinking this through fully.
A Vaccine in theory gives me immunity by exposing me to the virus and letting me fight it.

Well what's licking germs off my fingers do?
Exposes me and I either become resistant or die.
Same principle as a vaccine.

That's why almost every measure they are taking to fight covid is a disaster in the making.

The govt rules specifically limit your exposure to nature and so therefore weaken you immune system making you even more susceptible to anything including the common cold.

If you're even discussing a vaccine for Covid you're brainwashed by tv lies.

They want you to hope for and believe in the possibility but it's irrational.

There is no way to safely vaccinate via this methodology and cover all mutations.

You would have to take so many versions of it that you'd die from overdose.

They're lying hardcore here guys.

It's been well known for half a century that it's unreasonable to develop vaccines for pretty much all cold viruses including corona cuz it mutates constantly.

The TV news is LYING about the prospects of a vaccine. It's scientifically impossible.

I will repeat the Truth again because this is such a critical fact.

It is scientifically impossible to develop an effective vaccine for Covid or any other cold virus like this.

You can make one but it won't work on 99.9% of all who take it. They are still totally able to catch Covid cuz there is always new strains arising daily.

They have to know this and are just stringing everyone along. This is basic #

Just eat the honey like I said to.
It's that simple.

It is a scientific fact that honey is the most effective treatment for pretty much any infection including Covid.

It will kill all the pathogens.
So just eat it.

That solves the whole problem and reveals just how big of a conspiracy this really is.

originally posted by: Michigan72
Let's say vaccines started becoming available in a few months. What's your game plan?

I don't think i could bring myself to get one. It's not that I'm anti-vaccine. It's just a matter of ethics. As a Catholic, I cannot support a company who obtained that vaccine by experimenting on fetal tissue.

I'm not anti-vaxx, but I would never get any vaccine from any big pharma company, nor would I ever allow them near my children with their disgusting trash.

I personally believe that it is within the realm of possibility that vaccines could be made safe, and possibly, at least some of them could be made reasonably effective.

The problem is, I wouldn't trust the fascist criminal in all of the big pharma companies and the government agencies that oversee them farther than I can spit.

You see... I can read... go read the ingredients of any vaccine being offered/pushed on your kids today. Read the list of potential side effects. Read the laws that give these monsters absolute immunity for any harm their garbage does to you or your children.

You bet I’ll get one. I’m a firm believer in vaccines. They’ve saved millions of lives. Look at images of smallpox victims and tell me you wouldn’t take the vaccine if it were still around.

Vaccines are a corporate industry. I dont trust them to have our best interests in mind anymore than I would expect Nike or Apple to do so.

They have run one of the most impressive marketing campaigns in history though. First convincing people to never question them, then convincing them to look at all of their corporate products as the same monolithic GoodThing. Groups like Project VCTR are pushing even harder this year.

Realistically, vaccines for seasonal viruses are of questionable efficacy and questionable safety. And, they have next to no liability (and they want even MORE protections now).

In testing, they rarely use proper control groups. They just use another vaccinated cohort as a "control."

They dont monitor long term effects. In fact, they rarely monitor beyond a week (one week!).

They dont test for virus interference, where a vaccine for one thing increases susceptibility to another. Weve even learned recently that influenza vaccines can increase susceptibility to coronaviruses. And this year, we have them pushing those flu vaccines harder than ever.

I would advise everyone to think very seriously about completely trusting corporations that profit more from us being perpetually sick. And, beyond that, have no liability for how their products might negatively affect their customers.

The Democrats have suggested that perhaps the first doses should go to mainly Black people or exclusively to Black people because they are so badly affected by the virus. So that will be the group to watch for side effects and what happens to them after getting the vaccine.

This would be just asking for a cluster .... if there were serious side effects, there would be hell to pay. Got to be completely voluntary even on the frontline and at risk people. Only way it works. I wonder if the US has 100 million persons willing to take the shot,what about kids? do they get shots? they are low risk? So many variables.

SO, the Dems are openly advocating for experimenting upon black people now?

And nobody is calling them out on that???!??!

Really??

a reply to: Michigan72


There’s a thousand reasons not to get a vaccine, beyond just the fetal tissue issue.

Short answer:

Nope!

Long answer:

The flu vaccine has been "in use" for 90 years. Flu is still around, plus, I haven't taken the flu shot ever and I haven't had the flu for over 15 years. Although the people I do know who get the flu shot every year always get the flu. go figure.

Covid-19 Vaccine has been in "development" less than 6 months. It's a corona virus, aka, a variant of a cold virus. They can't even cure the common cold, let alone this new one LOL. Since when has Big Pharma ever been in business to cure anything? Any one who thinks otherwise is a little too gullible.

People are actually begging for the vaccine and it's really sad to see. The amount of fear people have will make them do and believe anything. People actually think the vaccine is going to cure them. I've heard people say they aren't leaving their house until they can get a vaccine......That tells me they are under the impression it will be a cure of some sort.

Already got my first shot from the Moderna stage 3 vaccine trial, get my booster shot next week. Had a slight fever the first night and have felt fine since.

originally posted by: Michigan72
Let's say vaccines started becoming available in a few months. What's your game plan?

I don't think i could bring myself to get one. It's not that I'm anti-vaccine. It's just a matter of ethics. As a Catholic, I cannot support a company who obtained that vaccine by experimenting on fetal tissue.

childrenshealthdefense.org...



February 22, 2017
Metals Debris Found in Vaccine Supply

By Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.

A landmark new study has found metal debris and biological contamination in every human vaccine tested. The study should have profound and immediate impact on public health policies and vaccine industry procedures around the globe.


The researchers reported their results in the International Journal of Vaccines and Vaccination. They found widespread contamination by toxic aluminum salts, red blood cells of unknown origin and inorganic, foreign particle debris in aggregates, clusters and independent particulates.

a reply to: stonerwilliam

Let me repeat for emphasis. The investigators think that what they found is that vaccines are contaminated with all sorts of inorganic metals. What they really found is that the amount of inorganic contamination is so low as to be biologically irrelevant. In fact, what they found is that vaccines are incredibly pure products.

Yes, laugh, because what Gatti and Montanari actually showed is that the level of inorganic contamination in vaccines is minuscule, suggesting that the manufacturing processes used to make them are very, very good at making sure that vaccines are pure, given that none of the vaccines contained more inorganic particles at a concentration higher than 0.15 femtomolar.

That’s because it’s all about antivaccine fear mongering, not science.

source

The "study" is nonsense. Poorly conducted, not reviewed.

The International Journal of Vaccines and Vaccination charges authors of research papers from $589 to $989 to publish. So let’s be honest – are the “peer reviewers” actually going to reject a paper and forgo the publishing fee? This is why predatory publishers are under such scrutiny for the quality of their research.

www.skepticalraptor.com...

originally posted by: Nyiah
Abso-#ing-lutely not. If others want to be guinea pigs for the long-term unknowns, far be it from me to tell them not to, but I'm sure as hell not going with that gamble.

Talk to me in 15 or 20 years when we know what the real health fallout from a rushed vaccine is or isn't. I might consider it at that point in time. Or not.

This is called very simply smart thinking. Funny how it gets painted
up like a pretty CT.

a reply to: Michigan72

Vaccines are well and good but I'd rather get all my other shots and avoid that one for as long as I can afford to. I don't even have a solid reason unless paranoia is solid. I can see some institutions requiring it though. Schools, different workplaces. I'd have no choice if it came to that. And if they ever did a national mask mandate, I wonder if lawmakers might become more open to discussing a vaccine mandate...

my stance on a future COVID-Vaccine is pretty clear by reading the signature below this post

persons who have a very aggressive response to Eggs (as an Allergic substance) have absolutely no choice in NOT taking the vaccine

We, Egg Sensitive persons, can only live-in-an-Bubble as a result... because the vaccine will KILL us in an allergic reaction to the vaccine which is 'grown' in an egg - food source/ medium/ culture

i can't even eat Mayonnaise on a ham sandwich without getting a 104 temperature & sick for 24+ hours of intense distress
~i can't compare to peanut allergy persons~