PREDICTION: Next Week BIG Rise In New Florida CV Cases

a reply to: Bicent

If covid-19, was so deadly folks Sweden, would be burning bodies 24 hours a day.

That was never the claim.

a reply to: DBCowboy

So Trump should have ignored states rights?

Why not? He has "absolute authority" to make states open up not matter what. He can make schools open by threatening to withhold funding. States rights. Good one.



He could have offered leadership. A coherent policy. He did not, and still does not.

a reply to: Phage

And the hundred or so other countries? They're all lying?

Lying about what? Come on man!

Were they not more effective, like was stated. Are they lying about being more effective?

But whatever most of the world did seems to have been more effective than what we did.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: DBCowboy

So Trump should have ignored states rights?

Why not? He has "absolute authority" to make states open up not matter what. He can make schools open by threatening to withhold funding. States rights. Good one.



He could have offered leadership. A coherent policy. He did not, and still does not.

Who has?

a reply to: DBCowboy

Don't you think the president holds a unique position of leadership in this country?

a reply to: LookingAtMars

You distrust the numbers from two countries.
What about the rest of them?

I guess the numbers from China are all correct.

And the numbers from Russia are good too.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: DBCowboy

Don't you think the president holds a unique position of leadership in this country?

Obfuscating again.

Who has shown leadership for this Covid?

a reply to: Phage

You distrust the numbers from two countries. What about the rest of them?

I trust the US numbers (at this point in history) about as much as I trust the numbers from the CCP and Russia..

There is too much evidence that the US has inflated it's numbers. It has been admitted!

a reply to: DBCowboy

Obfuscating again.

No. You are.

Unless you are saying that the president is not supposed to lead the country. That administration policy has no effect. But surely you're not saying that.

a reply to: LookingAtMars

It has been admitted!

I suppose you're talking about the claims about what Redfield said? Maybe you should look at what he actually said.

If not, how much do you reckon that "inflation" affects the deaths/million figures? Seems it would have to be pretty extreme.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: DBCowboy

Obfuscating again.

No. You are.

Unless you are saying that the president is not supposed to lead the country. That administration policy has no effect. But surely you're not saying that.

I'm asking.

Who has stepped up and shown leadership during the Covid crisis?

You say Trump has not.

So you must have some metric to measure positive leadership by.

Yet you can't.

So I'll save you the time of panicking and thinking of some other way of avoiding my question.

No one else has stepped up because no one else has had the stones to do so.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: LookingAtMars

It has been admitted!

I suppose you're talking about the claims about what Redfield said? Maybe you should look at what he actually said.

If not, how much do you reckon that "inflation" affects the deaths/million figures? Seems it would have to be pretty extreme.

Everyday people who know someone that has died, doctors, nurses, undertakers and even ME's have all stated that the numbers are being inflated.

a reply to: DBCowboy

No one else has stepped up because no one else has had the stones to do so.

Governors. Governors who had to approach the situation piecemeal because there was no national policy.

Mayors. Local authorities who had to pick up the slack when governors failed.

No one carries the authority which the president does. The president has failed to provide any nationwide policy. He has failed to lead. Instead, in his insecurity, he sees it all as an attempt to "get him" and hopes, based on nothing, that it will just "go away."

It won't.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: DBCowboy

No one else has stepped up because no one else has had the stones to do so.

Governors. Governors had to approach the situation piecemeal because there was no national policy.
Mayors. Local authorities had to pick up the slack when governors failed.

No one carries the authority which the president does. The president has failed to provide any nationwide policy. He has failed to lead. Instead, in his insecurity, he sees it all as an attempt to "get him."

So the president should dictate policy down to the state and local level.

Is that what you're saying?

Because the minute he does that, you and everyone else will be making skid-marks in your tighty whiteys and screaming state rights.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Is that what you're saying?

No. I'm saying that the federal government needs have a policy by which states can coordinate their efforts and know what to expect from the feds.

Because the minute he does that, you and everyone else will be making skid-marks in your tighty whiteys and screaming state rights.

He tried that. The idiot he is.

"When somebody is the president of the United States, the authority is total," the president said. "And that’s the way it’s gotta be. It’s total."

The only thing he can coordinate is his wardrobe. And he is a snappy dresser. I'll give you that.

a reply to: Phage

The feds did.

Some states said, "No thanks, we're good", other govenors soiled their 5,000 dollar suits and said, "Gimme billions!"

a reply to: IAMTAT

we have had our differences in threads, but sir, you have nailed it on the head.

a reply to: DBCowboy

The feds did.

The president did not, and has not. There is no policy.

The free money comes from Congress, not the president.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: DBCowboy

The feds did.

The president did not, and has not. There is no policy.

We'll just have to agree to disagree.

a reply to: DBCowboy

I don't have to agree to anything.