Oregon state troopers start duty at federal courthouse ahead of Portland protests Thursday

Many people seem to forget that this country was born in protest.

Remember the Boston tea party?

I think that protesting is a sacred rite for people in the US. When your representatives no longer represent you and your beliefs, it is time to protest.

I remember the protests in San Francisco to end the war in Viet Nam. Three hundred thousand protesters lining streets as far as you could see. I think the politicians could no longer ignore the will of the people.

In Portland, you don't have nearly as many protestors. The protests seemed to be slowly dieing down until the foolish orange man sent in the storm troopers.

I respect the right of people to protest. I do not support the people who break things and/or choose violence to make a statement.

originally posted by: Wildbob77
Many people seem to forget that this country was born in protest.

Remember the Boston tea party?

I think that protesting is a sacred rite for people in the US. When your representatives no longer represent you and your beliefs, it is time to protest.

I remember the protests in San Francisco to end the war in Viet Nam. Three hundred thousand protesters lining streets as far as you could see. I think the politicians could no longer ignore the will of the people.

In Portland, you don't have nearly as many protestors. The protests seemed to be slowly dieing down until the foolish orange man sent in the storm troopers.

I respect the right of people to protest. I do not support the people who break things and/or choose violence to make a statement.

I think protesters should be free to peacefully protest.

It's our first amendment.

But I don't think you should have the right to kill me just because I don't think like you.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: subfab

Well, I don't.
Speaking from personal experience, decades ago.

so how does any law enforcement agency differentiate between the rioters and the protesters?
answer is you can't. arrest them all.
when you stand among violent individuals you become one of them.

originally posted by: Wildbob77
Many people seem to forget that this country was born in protest.

Remember the Boston tea party?

I think that protesting is a sacred rite for people in the US. When your representatives no longer represent you and your beliefs, it is time to protest.

I remember the protests in San Francisco to end the war in Viet Nam. Three hundred thousand protesters lining streets as far as you could see. I think the politicians could no longer ignore the will of the people.

In Portland, you don't have nearly as many protestors. The protests seemed to be slowly dieing down until the foolish orange man sent in the storm troopers.

I . I do not support the people who break things and/or choose violence to make a statement.

People didn't take the tea home to their living room, they threw it into the water. That's a big difference to me.

I think most all of us here "respect the right of people to protest".

I agree
People have the right to protest.

We have laws against violence and property damage.

a reply to: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: burdman30ott6

Rayshart Brooks was out of prison

So shoot him.
Right?

After he grabs and possesses an officer's taser, pointing at the officer, you are Goddamned right shoot him. Double tap the SOB as well for good measure. No loss happened at that site until animals burned the Wendy's down in protest of the death of filth.

originally posted by: Phage

The governor can call in the National Guard, if necessary. But at least they would be identifiable as such.

I don't understand you point... The feds are marked...its not like they dress like the violent protesters. You know exactly who is who, EVERYONE there knows who is who...lol

Maybe if they did this 40+ days ago the feds would not be there. They are reactionary to it all... Kind of like the summer of love called CHAD.. geez

Do you have a problem with feds?

a reply to: bigsnowman

I re read it and found I agree with it more now than I did when. I typed it. Hatred? Yeah, it has reached that point. Sort of difficult watching animals destroy and terrorize US cities and not hate, ya?

originally posted by: Wildbob77

People have the right to protest.

We have laws against violence and property damage.

They have a right to peaceful protest... You all keep missing that one simple word..why?

a reply to: Xtrozero

Do you have a problem with feds?

Actually, yes.

a reply to: Phage

I have. Protesting in large group there are specific rules. One is obey all public rules to include no j walking, no blocking access to sidewalks, impeding cars or harassing others. The other is needing a permit to break any of the public rules.

What is going on is not protesting. Almost all are indeed breaking the law. Can't just do whatever you want protesting. There is a legal way and an illegal way.

a reply to: FlyinHeadlock

Yes.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Xtrozero

Do you have a problem with feds?

Actually, yes.

Why?

a reply to: Muninn

Habit, perhaps.

Are these feds trained for dealing with these situations? Who, exactly, are they? Under whose direct command do they operate? To whom do they report? To whom do they answer?

originally posted by: Phage

Habit, perhaps.

Are these feds trained for dealing with these situations? Who, exactly, are they? Under whose direct command do they operate? To whom do they report? To whom do they answer?

I can pretty much ask the same questions about the state replacements too. I think a good number of these feds are ICE...

So what are these people protesting for again? Are they any closer to achieving their goals than they where last month?

a reply to: burdman30ott6

Maybe you should go live in China. You'd love it there. They'll shoot protestors and throw them in jail without little to no trial for years.

That's what you want right? Give the cops the authority to kill by will if a riot breaks loose?

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: panoz77

When you are a protestor within an area where a riot is declared and you remain, you are no longer a protestor but part of a riot.

Speaking from personal experience, you are incorrect.

I'm not. They generally announce "This has been declared a riot, please disperse or you are subject to arrest or riot control munitions". If you don't leave, you are subject to arrest and getting hit in the face with a flashbang, whether you think you are being peaceful or not.

Friday 7/31/2020

GOT ANY ALTERNATIVE FEEDS FOR THIS WEEKEND?

Your original two have been removed by Anti-Trump Google-YouTube, now that no Federal Troops are participating.

originally posted by: LookingAtMars

Oregon State Police took on the high-profile assignment to provide security at the courthouse after the Trump administration this month sent more than 100 federal officers to guard the building, leading to larger crowds of thousands protesting their presence and widespread condemnation by city and state officials and members of Congress.

Gov. Kate Brown brokered a deal with Trump officials to start withdrawing the federal officers, often dressed in camouflage and responding to fires, fireworks and incursions at the fence with tear gas, pepper spray and riot-control munitions. They have also swept the blocks around the courthouse.

The aggressive tactics have prompted a cluster lawsuits objecting to serious injuries they have caused and questioning the authority of the officers to move far off federal property to push people back and make arrests.

The full and accurate title of the story is Changing of the guard: Oregon state troopers start duty at federal courthouse in Portland. Quiet so far.

So the riots end tonight?

State troopers are going to be so much better than federal LE?

Well, lets see if it makes any difference.

There usually isn't much turn out on Thursday night anyway. May have to wait till the weekend to see if the changing of the guard has any effect on the protests/riots.

ETA - So quite in Portland, there is no live stream right now.