Time to Revist Nibiru, Planet X, Nemesis, as to whether The Destroyer Exists?

It was discussed hot and heavy back in 2011 on ATS then nothing. Then again lets go back to 2015. Heres a link as it was published in many journals and yes here we go again no answers:

Scientists Can’t Explain What Huge Object Is Blocking The Light From This Distant Star

Then we have this HUGE web site on Planet X or Nibiru. Apparently it orbits around our sun every 3600 or so years and when it gets near earth sheet happens as in bad stuff.

Here's the link:

Nibiru, Planet X, Nemesis, The Destroyer, Wormwood, Hercolubus, Comet Typhon – Expected in Year 2021


So. It seems as if the entire world is imploding. Covid-19, floods, earthquakes, locusts in West Asia and Africa, USA may go to war with China, lock downs, crazy politicians, de fund police and it seems as if we are all going crazy. Think about it. Think about the 2015 issue in space and consider the possibility that another planet exists.

So in the history of man we have global extinction events and they seem to follow a cycle.

Then This:

COVID-19 forces Earth's largest telescopes to close

How about this guy?

This Guy

So what say you. Possibility of Nibiru or bee sheep?

a reply to: Waterglass

There is a theory that Planet X (Planet 9) may not be a Planet at all but a Black Hole , the problems you mention are most likely due to the old bane of Mankind ... A Comet or in this case Comet NEOWISE.

As for Planet X....

For nearly 5 years, growing numbers of scientists have blamed the weird orbits of distant solar system objects on the gravitational effects of an as-yet-undiscovered “Planet Nine” that lies in the icy realm far beyond Neptune. But a pair of physicists is now floating an intriguing idea that could offer a new way to search for the object: What if that supposed planet is actually a small black hole?

Previous studies have suggested Planet Nine, which some astronomers refer to as “Planet X,” has a mass between five and 15 times that of Earth and lies between 45 billion and 150 billion kilometers from the sun. At such a distance, an object would receive very little light from the sun, making it hard to see with telescopes.

a reply to: gortex

Thanks.Well it seems that science is aware that something is out there and if that something has movement around our sun and has any gravitational pull on earth it could make man kind of crazy as we are comprised of water along with the other disasters it would cause. Seems to have some merit. Some will survive it. Those with $$$$.

a reply to: Waterglass

You do realise that the huge object, or objects, blocking light from the star in the first article is orbiting that star, right?

Which is 1500 light years away from us.

Absolutely nothing to do with the goings on in our own solar system.

What if Nibiru was not a planet at all but a huge spaceship, our creators that stopped by to say hallo.

Ahh 2011. Good times. I miss the old Nibiru threads tbh (I was just pondering those a few days back actually, wanted to see if yowusa website is still up considering they were hot and heavy trying to sell books and survival gear for the upcoming close pass / alien invasion.

My favorite wasn't just a rogue planet, but more about the Nephilim living there and how when close they come over, enslave us for a small time, take more gold, genetics, etc from us all while in the guise of egyptian gods or whatever they could pass for, then leave. Total Stargate SG1 vibes those threads were.

Anyhow, it became a dud, and eventually you got to put the fairy tales to bed...and thats why it isn't discussed much. 2012 was their one big shot, lots of people suspended disbelief and called NASA a cover up agency because they were hiding the truth, blah blah blah...Hell, there were some soo freaked out about the idea that they committed suicide

Anyhow, I'll let David Morrison, astrobiologist from NASA have the final word here from a quote back in 2009

"The Planet Nibiru was predicted to hit the Earth in May of 2003," he says. "As far as I know, it didn't. And someone just pushed reset, and now it's coming in 2012. So I don't think we'll ever be rid of apocalyptic stories about Planet X and the end of the world."

Source

add: decided to check out yowusa and still up...and along with all the normal nonsense, they are weighing in heavily on the covid stuff...funnily enough, they are mirroring a lot of what many people around ATS say...that facemask both add to the issue of covid because of it "activating" from the masks, and at the same time saying masks prevent herd immunity by not spreading fast enough. At least we know where they are getting their information from..or where members here are getting their information from...symbiotic relationship of anti-science...clearly this is the fault of HAARP!)

a reply to: Chadwickus

Really? So what about this:

Have Astronomers Found Another "Alien Megastructure" Star? Scientists now have a second example of a strange stellar phenomenon speculatively linked to extraterrestrial intelligence in 2015

A faraway star in the southern sky is flickering in an odd manner that suggests a bizarre cloud of material—or something even stranger—is in orbit around it. Discovered by astronomers using a telescope in Chile, the star is reminiscent of two other enigmatic astrophysical objects, one thought to harbor a planet with rings 200 times larger than those of Saturn, the other most famous for the remote possibility it is encircled by “alien megastructures.” The newfound star may help shed some light on one or both of these puzzling objects.

Wellll... Just something i'm aware of.

In the book of Hosea from the Bible there is the day of Jezreel prophecy. In that prophecy it was predicted that Israel was to be cursed and destroyed with a distant future restoration. But there is a interesting quirk to it. The timeline of the curse.
2 days in the presence of the Lord. Followed by a day off Jezreel. But according to Psalms 90 and 2nd Peter 3-8 those days are 1000 year periods of time.

My best guess is that the 2nd day ends in 2028. Based on Matthew 24. 2nd best guess is 2035. Based on the 70 AD destruction of the temple and a 35 year generation preceding it.

While it's not a Nibiru prophecy it would seem we have a prediction that puts a rough date on major upheavals of nations, societies, and etc.

Sure looks like it's starting.

a reply to: Chadwickus

You do realise that the huge object, or objects, blocking light from the star in the first article is orbiting that star, right?

Sir, that's not accurate. You do realize that its NOT another planet around it or are you pushing junk science


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originally posted by: Waterglass
a reply to: Chadwickus

Really? So what about this:

Have Astronomers Found Another "Alien Megastructure" Star? Scientists now have a second example of a strange stellar phenomenon speculatively linked to extraterrestrial intelligence in 2015

A faraway star in the southern sky is flickering in an odd manner that suggests a bizarre cloud of material—or something even stranger—is in orbit around it. Discovered by astronomers using a telescope in Chile, the star is reminiscent of two other enigmatic astrophysical objects, one thought to harbor a planet with rings 200 times larger than those of Saturn, the other most famous for the remote possibility it is encircled by “alien megastructures.” The newfound star may help shed some light on one or both of these puzzling objects.

Whatever that is, its not in our solar system.
They are discussing a different star system entirely.
Again Chad is pointing out that these are not in our solar system. Nibiru / X is about our solar system

originally posted by: Waterglass
a reply to: Chadwickus

You do realise that the huge object, or objects, blocking light from the star in the first article is orbiting that star, right?

Sir, that's not accurate. You do realize that its NOT another planet around it or are you pushing junk science


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You sure its not another planet?
seems it is unknown, and if its unknown, then it could be anything, but it most likely is a rogue planet (moon) ripping apart by the sun. Did you see the video you linked to?

And again, has little to do with out solar system or the point of your thread...might as well as point out ducks in a pond in regards to relevance.

originally posted by: gortex


There is a theory that Planet X (Planet 9) may not be a Planet at all but a Black Hole , the problems you mention are most likely due to the old bane of Mankind ... A Comet or in this case Comet NEOWISE.

The problem with a black hole would be that it would make it the big boy in the neighborhood by an extreme amount and we would be able to detect it with the anomalies it would cause. Everything including the sun would be in trouble if anything got within its event horizon too. I also don't think black holes move and it surly wouldn't have any kind of orbit around the sun.

originally posted by: Spacespider
What if Nibiru was not a planet at all but a huge spaceship, our creators that stopped by to say hallo.

Or a large alien AI probe that comes XXXX number of years sending information back to a civilization long dead..

a reply to: Xtrozero

It's thought the Black Hole would have the mass about that of a planet and there is a lot of space out there , scientists have developed a technique to look for small Black Holes in our Solar Solar system and it's down as a priority when the Vera C. Rubin Observatory comes online sometime this year.

I don't believe all Black Holes are stationary.

originally posted by: gortex

It's thought the Black Hole would have the mass about that of a planet and there is a lot of space out there , scientists have developed a technique to look for small Black Holes in our Solar Solar system and it's down as a priority when the Vera C. Rubin Observatory comes online sometime this year.

I don't believe all Black Holes are stationary.

I'm not sure a black hole can have a mass of a planet, it wouldn't be a black hole then. As example our sun can never be a black hole as there isn't enough mass to continue the process from a white dwarf. To be able to pass the Schwarzschild radius, i.e. the radius beneath which it would collapse into a black hole, our sun would need to be at least 20 times more massive.

If there was a way to artificially squeeze our sun past this radius it would end up 6000m across... A planet squeezed past the Schwarzschild radius would end up about 18 milometers across, or .7 of an inch...lol

originally posted by: Spacespider
What if Nibiru was not a planet at all but a huge spaceship, our creators that stopped by to say hallo.

that would be neat.

a reply to: Xtrozero

Here's an article from the proposers of the search at Harvard University

The new paper focuses on the famed Planet Nine as a prime first candidate for detection. The subject of much speculation, most theories suggest that Planet Nine is a previously undetected planet, but it may also flag the existence of a planet-mass black hole.

"Planet Nine is a compelling explanation for the observed clustering of some objects beyond the orbit of Neptune. If the existence of Planet Nine is confirmed through a direct electromagnetic search, it will be the first detection of a new planet in the solar system in two centuries, not counting Pluto, said Siraj, adding that a failure to detect light from Planet Nine—or other recent models, such as the suggestion to send probes to measure gravitational influence—would make the black hole model intriguing. "There has been a great deal of speculation concerning alternative explanations for the anomalous orbits observed in the outer solar system. One of the ideas put forth was the possibility that Planet Nine could be a grapefruit-sized black hole with a mass of five to ten times that of the Earth."
www.cfa.harvard.edu...

It would be interesting if there is a Black Hole sitting out there and to see how many they detect in ou Solar System.

a reply to: Xtrozero

Theory allows for primordial black holes to be of planetary mass.

The is a basic problem with the planet 9 theory. There are only two objects which seem to be affected by it. Two out of more than 300.

OSSOS discovered a handful of new extreme KBOs, half of which are outside the confined region, and are statistically consistent with a uniform distribution. A new study (currently in review) corroborates the non-clustered discoveries of OSSOS. A team of astronomers using data from the Dark Energy Survey (DES) found over 300 new KBOs with no clustering of orbits. So now two independent surveys — both of which carefully tracked and reported their observational biases in discovering independent sets of extreme KBOs — have found no evidence for clustered orbits.

theconversation.com...

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Xtrozero

It's thought the Black Hole would have the mass about that of a planet and there is a lot of space out there , scientists have developed a technique to look for small Black Holes in our Solar Solar system and it's down as a priority when the Vera C. Rubin Observatory comes online sometime this year.

I don't believe all Black Holes are stationary.

Some discussion of possible Binary star systems that include a Black Hole...

Black Holes in Binary Systems

After collapse to the neutron star stage, stars with masses less than 2-3 solar masses should remain neutron stars, gradually radiating away their energy, because there is no known mechanism for further combination, and forces between neutrons prevent further collapse. But this neutron force is the last stand, and our best calculations indicate that this repulsion which prevents collapse cannot withstand the gravity force of masses greater than 2 to 3 solar masses. Such neutron stars would collapse toward zero spatial extent - toward a "singularity". Once they collapsed past a certain radius, the "event horizon", then even light could not escape: black hole.

Since black holes by their very definition cannot be directly observed, proving their existence is difficult. The strongest evidence for black holes comes from binary systems in which a visible star can be shown to be orbiting a massive but unseen companion. The indirect evidence for the black hole Cygnus X-1 is a good example of the search for black holes. Another excellent candidate in an object which was discovered in one of the Magellanic Clouds. Some astronomers think the binary system V404 Cygni is the strongest candidate yet.

Black Holes in Binary Systems

I do not know, as I write this, if there is evidence of a Binary System where the Black Hole is orbiting the visible Star...which would be the case suggested here. I believe that in many cases, in Binary Systems, the two Stars are actually orbiting each other.