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Does God need worship?

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posted on Jul, 17 2020 @ 12:45 PM
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a reply to: FyreByrd



I have no idea why you are responding to a post of mine

Because you referred to my post as "To the best response so far. Thought provoking and intelligent. You offer ridicule and hatred?"



Nor do I understand your response whatsoever, so some context would be helpful.

The context:

My original post was this:

When you give money to a mendicant
and the mendicant says "God bless you"
and you say "Thank you"
which god has blessed you?


It seemed to me that you liked it.
My response to you was showing the granular, gritty thinking which led to my first post. "Showing the work" so to speak.

I hope that clarifies it.



posted on Jul, 18 2020 @ 04:15 AM
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Be still and know that I am God.

Nothing has to be done.

Just shut up...

edit on 18-7-2020 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 19 2020 @ 07:48 AM
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a reply to: thov420

So, I have personal experience believe it or not of atheists reacting angrily to the Christian God requiring worship, believe it or not

The Mosaic covenant is the Ten Commandments handed to Moses by God for the Hebrews.
I am not a Hebrew so, why would I adhere to Jewish laws

Lutheran you may have claimed and or but you didn’t understand christianity

Jesus left one command, love as He loved. Sorry the Lutherans got it wrong for you



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 12:01 PM
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Some do not accept a vengeful and capricious deity who will cast billions
of souls into a lake of fire for all eternity because they failed to claim
jesus as their savior.

Such a teaching would presuppose that billions are already in a fiery
hell waiting to be
judged.

The absurdity of said dogma will continue because fundamentalist
preachers read and understand their Bible from a literal perspective.
In their understanding past stories in their Bible was recorded as
true, actual events.

In doing so they have to contrive and twist multitude of untenable
doctrines that make absolutely no sense that leaves the one they
assume as God an unjust monster.

I could use hundreds of Bible scriptures, all which contradict the
literal perspective. I will use just two recorded in the second
letter to Timothy.




All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine,
for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man
of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
2 Timothy 3:16-17


If I wrote and recorded my past experience while attending High school,
would anyone claim such knowledge as being inspired?

Of course not. As no amount of past history is inspiration.
A writer, author is simply stating from his observation
and perspective what he or she has experienced.

And yet, many writers such as Moses, Paul, Jeremiah, Isiah, Daniel,
Matthew, Mark, Luke and John (just to name a few) are all accepted
as writing their past observation and experience.

Take for instance the first five books of the Bible, which
the literalist accept as the writings of Moses.

How is writing the details of the Hebrew Priesthood as recorded
in the scrolls of Leviticus inspired or inspiration?

Moses simply recorded his observation and experience as recorded
in all the scrolls attributed to his name.

Inspiration is knowledge that ..you..do..not..know.
Inspired to you within by the Spirit within you.

Again: Recorded history is not inspired or inspiration.

Conclusion: If the scriptures are to be accepted as genuinely
inspired or inspiration, then they must be understood
from an allegorical perspective.

All which is teaching man that he is one with God.
The inspiration of scripture are allegorical in
nature with no relation to actual historical events.
Which is teaching metaphysical/psychological
principle of eternal truth, that man and God are one.
The infinite power, intelligence, wisdom,
joy, beauty and peace is within mans
imagination, thinking and consciousness.

Until he claims his divine birth-right
and inheritance he'll continue to suffer
the errors of Kingdom of God within as a cruel
capricious God who loses more souls
to satan than he wins.

Inspired scripture when meditated upon
will inspire you from within until you grow
to an expansion in consciousness to KNOW
who you are, that you and God are one.

God is not out there somewhere, or
in outer space sitting on a throne.

Personally I've had too many prayers
answered outside of Christendom to
follow the literalist perspective.

A thousand years from now, they'll
still be waiting for a savior to rescue
them in a purported rapture.

But regardless of which you chose
to believe, I pray that God will
continue to richly bless you
with wisdom, joy, peace and prosperity,
and most importantly, a conscious
awareness to know.


edit on 7/20/2020 by MrBlaq because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 03:59 PM
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a reply to: MrBlaq

Are you saying all people are one with God? This I don't believe. I only agree with parts of your post.



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 04:01 PM
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a reply to: Raggedyman

Atheïsts are just allergic to the word god. The pain from it drives them mad.



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 06:52 PM
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originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: Raggedyman

Atheïsts are just allergic to the word god. The pain from it drives them mad.


Unfortunately I think you are wrong, think it’s because of the average behaviour of Christians that causes them the pain they suffer



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 06:58 PM
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a reply to: Raggedyman

That's what they say, but do they know a Christian or do you think it's all imaginary?
edit on 20-7-2020 by Out6of9Balance because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 09:43 PM
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originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: Raggedyman

That's what they say, but do they know a Christian or do you think it's all imaginary?


No, thats not what they say, that is what I am saying.
as a christian i dont like most christians and find them to be offensive personally

Many atheists are offensive but I understand and expect that as they have no fundamental standard, christians however should be christian and they are not generally.

Gandi said, "I like Jesus but I dont like Christians" thats pretty fair in my opinion
edit on 20-7-2020 by Raggedyman because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 21 2020 @ 01:49 AM
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a reply to: Raggedyman

Here I am again with my horrible questions.

If Ghandi liked Jesus but didn't like Christians, did he like himself then?



posted on Jul, 21 2020 @ 02:38 AM
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originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: Raggedyman

Here I am again with my horrible questions.

If Ghandi liked Jesus but didn't like Christians, did he like himself then?


Not sure about what Ghandi thought of himself, was never really interested in the fella
Any sincere questions are always welcome



posted on Jul, 21 2020 @ 03:25 AM
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a reply to: Raggedyman
I am truly interested:
What is it that you actually do when worshipping God......what are you focusing on when you worship?

Explain the process of worshipping God......



posted on Jul, 21 2020 @ 03:47 AM
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a reply to: Itisnowagain

It’s about individuals
Everyone is different, my beliefs are we love and care for others, some sing and wave flags, unique to individuals

I am a pragmatic, others emotional, some in between.

It satisfies our desires somehow I guess.



posted on Jul, 21 2020 @ 03:52 AM
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Dp
edit on 21-7-2020 by Raggedyman because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 21 2020 @ 03:59 AM
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a reply to: Raggedyman
So you are saying that your method of worshipping God is by loving and caring for others.



posted on Jul, 21 2020 @ 04:08 AM
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Seems like it.

You could also ask yourself how people don't worship God.



posted on Jul, 21 2020 @ 05:13 AM
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a reply to: Itisnowagain

I try



posted on Jul, 21 2020 @ 05:22 AM
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originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: Itisnowagain

I try

It is hard to know how to love and care for others.

Take for instance the monkey, that pulled the fish out of the water to stop it from drowning...lol.



posted on Jul, 21 2020 @ 05:25 AM
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a reply to: Itisnowagain

Try your best and still, I can be significantly more prickly and toned down people find me difficult.
Though, never one to save fish except for leftovers



posted on Jul, 25 2020 @ 12:44 AM
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a reply to: TzarChasm

What you're calling worship is false worship: like saluting an officer above you because you're duty-bound or maybe because you fear their superiority and so you kiss ass - it's worship in appearance only and it's self-serving. That is, when you pay respect out of fear or obligation you aren't truly paying respect, you're only abiding your own self-interest.

True worship is the highest form of real adoration. When we so adore someone that we worship them then we worship them selflessly and in doing so we desire to sacrifice to them, not for their favor, but because we favor them.

When we sacrifice to someone we adore and/or worship, what we're seeking is to become one with the person - we are seeking to have them take us into them so we can become one with them - we aren't seeking to pay a tax.

The kind of worship you're talking about (which is basically taxation) is not what the God of the Bible is after.




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