is the govt coming clean about ufos?

well it looks as if the govt is moving closer to a more open and unified effort in regards to the subjecr of ufos or excuse me uaps which is what they been calling them talk about foreugn, i like this where the govt has admitted multiple secret programs to study the topuc and the 5 variables and the 40 year spectrum of potential threats associated with the subject, and also the navy admitting that these uaps are really uaps so that the public wont get confused which unfortunately is way to easy to do, and the army working with ttsa and doing it out in the open finally is so refreshing

the govt desiring to unify all collection of data and materials so as to elinate stove pipes. selfishness, and ignorance and allow for more and more govt officials to be involved as well as the citizens they serve is a tough and difficult decision but a necessary one and the right one for future generations as mankind takes steps to explore the universe one day, any technical know how should be closely guarded but acknowledging such reality should not be

as for me the co-commander the the us space force which frees up more time with the co title ill be waiting for younger people to take my place one day but until then EXCELSIOR!!!!!!

can this really happen? discuss this down below

Do you have any links to articles on the government moving closer to the truth? I don’t really see the government doing much of anything on this, and nothing seems to be moving on this.

a reply to: saskwatch

No. They are just consolidating power and any propaganda they spread regarding UFO is only to make you feel more dependant upon the government to look out for your interests.

The government will release all the ufo files, the alien reality, etc etc etc the day after ATS shuts down, just because the universe has a sense of humor.

Already Has the New Space Force that was signed opened up the way for Disclosure

a reply to: saskwatch


every few years or so (give or take) we get another "they government is gonna come clean about UFO" story

yet we are no closer to the truth than before

fool me once, shame on you
foll me twice, shame on me
foll me every few years, your just a moron

scrounger

Disclosure coming soon!

For a few decades now.

Ever consider the possibility that there is nothing to disclose, regarding aliens?

originally posted by: Phage
Disclosure coming soon!

For a few decades now.

Ever consider the possibility that there is nothing to disclose, regarding aliens?

I would find that really hard to believe.

just on the mathematical numbers of stars that have the ability to support planets with life just in our own milky way system alone that we are the only intelligent life and we are the only ones with advance tech is just unrealistic .

so to think our own government doesnt have some evidence on aliens and/or being here (much less contact) is just even by statistics not realistic

scrounger

a reply to: scrounger

that we are the only intelligent life and we are the only ones with advance tech is just unrealistic .

There are few who would disagree.
What does that have to do with what I asked?

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: scrounger

that we are the only intelligent life and we are the only ones with advance tech is just unrealistic .

There are few who would disagree.
What does that have to do with what I asked?

simple

the only way for the government not to have anything about aliens is for there to be no aliens.

since it is statistically impossible alone for that to be the case then it would also stand to reason that the government DOES have evidence (or more ) of aliens.

that doesnt even take into account all the circumstantial (and some hard) evidence over the years that the government knows, has hard evidence and the clear (at times quite silly)) coverups.

scrounger

a reply to: scrounger

since it is statistically impossible alone for that to be the case

Just because it is likely that they exist, it is not statistically impossible that there is no other technological civilization in the Galaxy (or Universe, for that matter).

It is even less not statistically impossible that another technological civilization is visiting Earth. We can't get to them, why should they be able to get to us?

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: scrounger

since it is statistically impossible alone for that to be the case

Just because it is likely that they exist, it is not statistically impossible that there is no other technological civilization in the Galaxy (or Universe, for that matter).


actually it is.. to claim that somehow only our little mudball of (compared to other planets) young time here had the only combination of elements to produce life. that only our little mudball had the life develop into our current civilization, and even more ludicuris is that we are the example the best science/tech/knowlege that is.

that is unrealistic and to be honest quite narcissistic .


It is even less not statistically impossible that another technological civilization is visiting Earth. We can't get to them, why should they be able to get to us?

not only re read what i posted above, but because we cant others can? I might point out there is many things in human history where one country / people/ ect could do something that someone else could not. for example the native americans in north america didnt come to europe but europeans could due to they had superior ship technology. in a vast universe where we everyday re writing the book on science . hell not even twenty years ago (if even that short of time) the idea of "warp drive" or "bending space" for faster intergalatic travel was all just fantasy / sci fi.. now we actually have solid theoriies and attempts to do just that.. yet you think an alien civilization cannot be more advanced than us?

so if they were more advanced than us we would be the "native americans of north america" and they would be europeans.

i guess what it boils down to is this

either we are the only intelligent life in our galaxy or universe or we are not

then after that we must decide if its possible we are the most advanced of those societies/ life forms.

just common sense says that is impossible.

then when one realizes that why is it such a stretch to think aliens havent been here before and our government is so ignorant they dont know and/or have evidence thereof?

scrounger

a reply to: scrounger

either we are the only intelligent life in our galaxy or universe or we are not

We probably are not, but there is a chance we are.

then after that we must decide if its possible we are the most advanced of those societies/ life forms.

Why would that matter? Just because we may not be the most highly advanced, it doesn't mean that a more highly advanced civilization is capable of interstellar travel.

just common sense says that is impossible.

Wishful thinking might say so, but not logic.

Its an election year in the US, both parties always claim they'd declassify stuff if they win but never do.

a reply to: scrounger

Not really.

The same equations that show it's almost a mathematical impossibility for their not to be life on other planets also prove it's almost a mathematical impossibility for them to have visited Earth or to know of its existence due to the hundreds of billions of planets out there.

a reply to: Phage

Phage, the other possibility is that at least some elements within the government and/or military are convinced that high strangeness has occurred, but they haven't the slightest clue as to its origins, cause, or nature. Therefore, they have nothing to "disclose".

And no "authority" in their right mind would come clean about that to Joe Q. Public. A lot to risk and nothing to gain.

Cheers

a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

That's what I said, I think.

Ever consider the possibility that there is nothing to disclose, regarding aliens?

originally posted by: scrounger
so to think our own government doesnt have some evidence on aliens and/or being here (much less contact) is just even by statistics not realistic

The odds of life out there I agree are astronomically high.

The odds of actually meeting are also astronomically low.

Statistics don't support your argument.
You need to take into account that space is pretty big and that time is pretty long.

Definitely disclosure is coming this year...

If not, then next year

a reply to: Phage

It is even less not statistically impossible

I just love this!

a reply to: scrounger

In an infinite universe the closest aliens to us could be an infinite distance from us.