Is tearing down statues the modern equivalent of the Nazi book burnings?

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: carewemust

Jews aren't really into statues.

Then Someone else honored them: www.yadvashem.org...

a reply to: carewemust

Which one honors a famous jew?

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: DBCowboy

But your conflating mobs tearing down things that offend them to a civilized debate.

False. I have clearly separated the two.

And books are not the same as statues.

False.

They are both objects of free expression.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Vandalism is a crime.

SO is book burning.

Burning books is a crime?

If they're not yours to burn. Otherwise...

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: smurfy

Antique, I think, means at least 100 years old when it comes to furniture. Tradition, I don't know.

Yyyyesss, he's talking about the missus...I think?

a reply to: DBCowboy

They are both objects of free expression.

And yet, they are not the same.

a reply to: MerkabaMeditation

i see it more like Moa's cultural war they destroyed Temples and church and all things of the old system, then they began pubic shamming sounds familiar of today's shamming by the BLM? Then the snitching on family and friends who did not get with the program, after that the public executions.

a reply to: Phage

George Washington, is. If not for him, America, as we know it would not exist. Yup, tore him down Portland, and want to tear him, down in other places. You see, it’s not just Dixie statues it’s forefathers. They want to remove any relics of the heroes good or bad of America’s history, because during that time, slaves existed, which was not taboo, in that time period, as a matter a fact the pyramids were built by slaves owned by black Egyptians etc. there is still, slavery in Africa, slaves are being sold in Libya, I hear NO OUTRAGE, in regards to that, as a matter a fact I doubt most Americans even know it. Yet we can argue or debate on the rationale of right and wrong by groups who condone violence, and the attempt at dismantling a culture under the veil of injustice.

This whole thing has spiraled out of control, as far as I can tell, allot more than what meets the eye, I also think things are much worse than we think. When people are not educated in a society and morality is no longer taught we find ourselves on the fringes, when a narcissistic, megalomaniac is voted in to lead our country and career politicians stay in power into senility we as a society becomes sick and dysfunctional ala the divided states of America in 2020.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: DBCowboy

They are both objects of free expression.

And yet, they are not the same.

But you agree that they are both objects of free expression.

So that's something at least.

*shrugs*

a reply to: Bicent

I agree that vandalism is a crime. I've stated that.

a reply to: DBCowboy

I think some the artists (most) are dead, so "free expression" is sort of moot.

a reply to: Phage

I know I just used that to expand my opinion. Nothing personal.. duhhh. 😛

a reply to: Bicent
Well posted.
IMO the destruction of our founding is intended.
Part of the scheme.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: DBCowboy

I think some the artists (most) are dead, so "free expression" is sort of moot.

Would you say that to a Monet?

A Rodin?

a reply to: shooterbrody

I think that putting the Founders on a pedestal (literally) as examples of some sort perfection (cherry tree myth) serves little purpose.

Statues tend to convey only a sense of glory. With a book, you can find out more.

There is much to be proud of in American history. There is much that is not to be proud of. Statues don't provide a balance.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Would you say that to a Monet?

A Rodin?

Yes. Their time of expression is done. They did their thing. But the quality of the art remains.

Funny you should mention Rodin though. A few years back I was in Paris and visited the Rodin Museum. At the time there was a Mapplethorpe display in one gallery. I chose not to go into that gallery. In some places it's not really possible to avoid some of the "free expression" which is on display.

originally posted by: Bicent
a reply to: AgarthaSeed

Just no. That was not true. Someone needs to go back to the history books.

The Nazi book burnings were a campaign conducted by the German Student Union (the "DSt") to ceremonially burn books in Nazi Germany and Austria in the 1930s. The books targeted for burning were those viewed as being subversive or as representing ideologies opposed to Nazism. These included books written by Jewish, pacifist, religious, liberal, anarchist, socialist, communist, and sexologist authors among others.

en.m.wikipedia.org...


Prove otherwise before you tell me to go back to the books.

^^kinda sounds like a nightmare for modern left.

a reply to: Phage

So you're saying that it's okay to destroy objects of free expression if the creator of said expression is dead.

Noice.

Again.

a reply to: DBCowboy

So you're saying that it's okay to destroy objects of free expression if the creator of said expression is dead.

I have said nothing resembling that.

a reply to: Phage

Hmm and if protestors in Hawaii, tore down Queen Liliuokalani, statues that would be ok too?