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a reply to: UncleMikey

As a Christian, I believe the only way of breaking the Reincarnation Cycle is to believe in Jesus, however I'm not here to preach or proselytize since that is usually frowned upon on a Secular Forum.

As a Christian, you've taken a strange and non-Christian standpoint on this issue that IS NOT biblical. While the Bible does speak about transformative resurrection, there is no reincarnation as it is typically defined.

The "mystery" lies within how we are transformed by the Holy Spirit, that lives "within" us through faith in Jesus Christ. In the future, we will be resurrected and transformed into heavenly beings. As verse 46 points out below, as humans, we did not start out as a spiritual being that became a natural being, like Jesus did. We do not become like Jesus until AFTER we've lived out our human physical existence.

You should read all of 1 Corinthians 15 and 2 Corinthians 5.

1 Corinthians 15:45-49

45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.

47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.

49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.

a reply to: UncleMikey

Not sure why I am wasting my time here. I just remembered that you are the former pastor turned heretic of scripture from Festus, Missouri named Mike Hoggard.

Goodbye.

I'm not Pastor Mike, however I'll take it as a great compliment.



As far as Reincarnation is concerned...

I've spent years, on many various forums both Christian and non Christian, challenging anyone to show me in the Bible that Reincarnation was false.

So far, not a single person has even come close.

It's always the same thing...

Reincarnation is not Biblical because I say so.

Lol.

Christianity will continue to die until the Christian Community wakes up to the lies that have been taught for centuries now.

"God is Love and will burn you forever!"

Get out of here with that non-Christian, non Biblical garbage. The World is on to you now.

a reply to: UncleMikey

I've spent years, on many various forums both Christian and non Christian, challenging anyone to show me in the Bible that Reincarnation was false.

Like many others before you, you have confused reincarnation with resurrection. They are not the same.

Plus, you have failed to prove that there was any reincarnation event as it relates to Adam and Eve. When God told Adam and Eve that they would die if they ate from the Tree of Knowledge, they did. They died a human death that they would not have experienced otherwise if they had been able to stay in the Garden of Eden and eat from the Tree of Life. Your explanations for such things have lacked all common sense, not to mention a lack of biblical back up. Adam only had one wife and I've already proven that to you with scripture.

a reply to: UncleMikey

When God made a Woman from Adam's rib, Adam named her Ishshah...

Very misleading to most people. The same account in etmology would be Ish meaning man but that is a title and not a name. Adam was a Ish but was named Adam. Eve was a Ishshah but was named Chava [Eve]. Chava was the name of the Ishshah and Adam was the name of the Ish.

a reply to: whereislogic

Does the Bible’s teaching about the soul and death allow for reincarnation? .

The doctrine of the Christ Jesus does not teach reincarnation. John the Baptist was not the reincarnated Elias as is plainly shown in John 1:19-21

[19] And this is the record of John, when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, Who art thou?
[20] And he confessed, and denied not; but confessed, I am not the Christ.
[21] And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No.

John came in the likeness of Elias in the same comparison as Billy Graham came in the likeness of Jesus. John was never Elias and Billy Graham was never Jesus.

The whole Mystery of Babylon, is likely based of the rise and fall of Babylon, the Great. Where as it connection to the Fourth/Beast of the Sea, is Rome, while it is hinted that the Beast of Earth/Second to be the Vatican/Catholic Church or even St. Paul for the most, which ends up being the Whore of Babylon later.

Where as Babylon identifies with being the First Beast/Empire, while the other two are Ancient Persia an Greece supposedly. I think whomever wrote Revelations was hinting that Rome was repeating or followed suit that Babylon was attempting, global conquest of the known world.

The Angel saying that which is, was, and yet to come and being related to Babylon my main guess.
This is excluding Daniel's Visions btw.

originally posted by: UncleMikey

originally posted by: KansasGirl
a reply to: UncleMikey

What was the forbidden fruit, exactly? And the seed of the serpent? Thanks!

The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil was a Woman (Mystery Babylon, Hathor, Hagar).

Her 'Fruits'' on the Tree were her Ovaries.

The Serpent then fertilized the Ovaries (Eggs), using his 'Seed' (Sperm) which in turn produced the Forbidden Fruit.

Once the Eggs were fertilized, they were ready for a Soul and Spirit to enter into them.

Thus, when Adam and Ishshah partook, what they did was finalize the Conception process.

In short, they chose their parents.

Adam and Ishshah were given a choice between two sets of Parents.

They chose the Serpent and Mystery Babylon as Mom and Dad, which makes them our Parents as well.

The Seed of the Serpent is in all Males...

Hi UncleMickey,

Please explain why you used "The Devil Tarot Card" from a Pack created by Lady Frieda Harris and Aleister Crowley?
Aleister Crowley was involved in Egyptian Philosophy, not the Bible, and religion hasn't helped the cause of females, being half our number!
en.wikipedia.org...
www.esotericmeanings.com...

a reply to: UncleMikey

I've spent years, on many various forums both Christian and non Christian, challenging anyone to show me in the Bible that Reincarnation was false. So far, not a single person has even come close. It's always the same thing... Reincarnation is not Biblical because I say so.

You are somewhat correct but also somewhat wrong. Jesus nor His brother Jacob ever taught reincarnation. There are some sects of Judaism that do teach reincarnation but the letters that the NT compose do not teach reincarnation. In fact the author of Hebrews teaches that the terrestrial body dies once and the spirit of that body is then judged. [Heb. 9:27] --

Reincarnation teaches that the body dies and the spirit is judged worthy or needs more teaching. Now if the spirit of that dead soul is judged after its terrestrial body dies then you are saying that the same spirit that is reincarnated into possibly numerous bodies could face numerous judgments. Now at the very end of this creation when this entire universe is destroyed what happens to the many souls that are serving another reincarnation? Do they get a free pass from the God of love? If not then what is their final judgment?

Of course I do understand where you are coming from. You are saying that all of the thousands of Greek manuscripts that the NT teaches are phony lies. The whole Greek bible is a lie. Isn't that what you are saying? If not then please explain exactly where in the bible reincarnation is taught.