Couple Gets Doxxed for Defending Their Property

a reply to: McGinty

Is it not? Honest question

Was it gifted to the owners ? Did the owners work for a living, get a loan and purchase the mansion?

Everything I have, including my houses, is earned. If people are not willing to earn their own, how is that the fault of those who are?

Mansions are not cheap. They are hard to earn. It takes some dedication and financial savvy to earn one. So yes, I believe the mansion was hard earned.

(I haven’t researched what these people do for a living, but I bet they’re not welfare recipients who don’t earn a single thing for themselves)

a reply to: McGinty

And if it was inherited or gifted to them, do they deserve to have it taken away? Honest question.

a reply to: McGinty

no, mansions just fall out of the sky and people just get rich by chance, people never work hard and earn anything if they're rich, its all just dumb luck or robbing the average person. its not that most suck with money, have mediocre abilities, mediocre looks, mediocre social skills, no connection making skill, lack confidence and aren't ambitious, hesitate on decisions.

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: Krakatoa

Ugh, Maybe release some pressure there bud you're coming off a little wound up.

Nope. Just pointing out the hypocrisy. Perhaps you don't see it in yourself? Maybe you need some time for reflection and self discovery?

Or you could accept that people outside of the U.S have a romantic view of Americans being gun nuts and this woman is the perfect meme to exagerate that belief.

And that would be wrong to think that, right? After all, just because you come from somewhere or have some personal physical resemblance to others does not make you guilty for their actions.

Right?

You mean like how you view the left....

Deflection now? Aren't you special. Let's use a totally orthogonal argument to try to deflect away from the obvious.

Did I hit a nerve?

I guess your fear is blinding your hope.

Shame.

A nerve you think no I just couldn't be bothered arguing with someone defending lunatics waving guns around.

Lunacy is in the eyes of the beholder...

Also in the mind of the beholden.

I take it you side with boss hogg and Charlie's angel.

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: Krakatoa

Ugh, Maybe release some pressure there bud you're coming off a little wound up.

Nope. Just pointing out the hypocrisy. Perhaps you don't see it in yourself? Maybe you need some time for reflection and self discovery?

Or you could accept that people outside of the U.S have a romantic view of Americans being gun nuts and this woman is the perfect meme to exagerate that belief.

And that would be wrong to think that, right? After all, just because you come from somewhere or have some personal physical resemblance to others does not make you guilty for their actions.

Right?

You mean like how you view the left....

Deflection now? Aren't you special. Let's use a totally orthogonal argument to try to deflect away from the obvious.

Did I hit a nerve?

I guess your fear is blinding your hope.

Shame.

A nerve you think no I just couldn't be bothered arguing with someone defending lunatics waving guns around.

Lunacy is in the eyes of the beholder...

Also in the mind of the beholden.

I take it you side with boss hogg and Charlie's angel.

Don't know who that is.
However , I will use force to protect my property , family , and friends.
I have no respect for those who would not .
Zero
And even less for those that make light of that .
There is a time for one to use humor , and a time using it makes one look very ignorant. (dictionary form of the word)

a reply to: Breakthestreak

Asking because you suggested it was hard earned. I don’t want redistribution of inherited wealth via violence, but if efforts aren’t made to level the playing field so that people are born into and trapped by poverty, then it probable that at some point it will be taken violently. If the mega rich allow things to get to that point it’s difficult to sympathise with their ‘plight’.

a reply to: Gothmog

So you believe the 2 people out on their front lawns waving loaded weapons around were defending their property. okeydokey

So you think if they stayed inside they would have been robbed or assaulted ?

originally posted by: namehere
a reply to: McGinty
most suck with money, have mediocre abilities, mediocre looks, mediocre social skills, no connection making skill, lack confidence and aren't ambitious, hesitate on decisions.

Indeed, you don’t make the corporate psycho grade with the disabilities you’ve listed.

As you suggest the majority of us losers are far too human and fallible and are the natural prey of the few in the food chain that are able and willing to subjugate, manipulate, exploit and bully.

Sh*t always floats to the top.

originally posted by: McGinty
a reply to: Breakthestreak

Asking because you suggested it was hard earned. I don’t want redistribution of inherited wealth via violence, but if efforts aren’t made to level the playing field so that people are born into and trapped by poverty, then it probable that at some point it will be taken violently. If the mega rich allow things to get to that point it’s difficult to sympathise with their ‘plight’.

It’s a mansion

It was hard earned

They’re not handed out

If people bequeath their belongings to their offspring that’s their personal choice

Efforts ARE made to level the field. It’s called social welfare, scholarship programs, affirmative action etc. People born into poverty in the USA have a far better chance at escaping it than they do in a lot of other places

Being wealthy is not a crime nor is it something to frowned upon

Capitalism ain’t perfect but communism and dEmOcRaTiC sOCiAliSm are the very definition of oppression and slavery.

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

when you see rioting, vandalism, property destruction, people justifying it all and constantly hear about defunding police and cities allowing it all while doing nothing, what do you expect from people?

you make people feel insecure and isolated and they get edgy, maybe a bit trigger happy, survival instincts can make someone stop caring about others lives very fast. its getting very close to the breaking point very fast.

a reply to: namehere

Absolutely you should live in constant fear, and if a group of men walk past your house make sure to go stand outside and wave a gun around, you know so you feel so much safer.

Just a quick update. This Missouri constitutional law professor feels that Missouri's castle doctrine law would apply to a collectively owned private street:

Walker said the neighbors collectively own the street, so the McCloskeys had the right to defend it. The protesters didn’t have the right to be there.

“Constitutional law generally holds that you have the right to protest on a sidewalk. It’s called a public forum. But if it’s a private street, it’s not a public forum,” he said. Source

a reply to: McGinty

you might not like it but most just don't have what it takes to reach a good position.

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

once you're dead its too late to regret.

you should fear others to some degree and always be ready to defend yourself, humans are the greatest predators for a reason.

originally posted by: mamabeth
a reply to: Melen

Responsible gun owner here with a C.C.W. and a
member of the NRA...
I would not have gone out to my front yard.I would
have stayed inside and watched from the windows.
They would have to be forcing their way into my home
before I would react.Outside of my home,the bushes
and flowers can be replaced,people can not be.

I said almost word for word the exact thing on another forum yesterday. Minus the NRA part.

It’d only take a couple protesters willing to call a bluff and rush them, take their guns from them and worst case scenario, use them against them.

Of course, the lady would have been blind firing in every direction, most likely shooting the neighbors peacock through a window, but it would have scared some protesters away in the process.

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: Gothmog

So you believe the 2 people out on their front lawns waving loaded weapons around were defending their property. okeydokey

So you think if they stayed inside they would have been robbed or assaulted ?

In this case, yeah, I think they were on their front lawn defending their property.

I do not think if they stayed inside they would have been robbed.

I think they should have stayed inside and kept a bird’s eye view on the situation and fired off a warning shot if anyone started approaching their home.

originally posted by: Drucifer
...most likely shooting the neighbors peacock through a window...

Peacock's need to be shot.

We have a zoo in town and you can hear those mofo's a mile away plus the sneaky bastids like to escape every once in awhile too.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
Just a quick update. This Missouri constitutional law professor feels that Missouri's castle doctrine law would apply to a collectively owned private street:

Walker said the neighbors collectively own the street, so the McCloskeys had the right to defend it. The protesters didn’t have the right to be there.

“Constitutional law generally holds that you have the right to protest on a sidewalk. It’s called a public forum. But if it’s a private street, it’s not a public forum,” he said. Source

That's a good find

a reply to: SleeperHasAwakened

It appears they're gonna need his help as the governor sounds like she wants them prosecuted.

Most I think they can get is brandishing as the woman was a moron for pointing a gun at those people.

One thing is abundantly clear to me in this thread: the divide between folks that understand the "worth" of private property/possessions, and those who are unaware (because they've never owned anything of significance) or dismiss such worth. It would be tempting to lay this one at the feet of the rural vs urban divide, with proclivity of urban citizens not often understanding what it takes to attain ownership of something of immense cost, like a house or a car. However, that's too facile of an argument; plenty of rural folks rent their home, and lots of urban folk own a car (but pay a fortune in parking it).

It can't be emphasized enough that when private property is involved, emotions WILL run high; nerves will surface; tempers will flare; mistakes and acts of poor judgement WILL occur. Events like this transcend tipping over a statue in a city park. The MSM coverage of the riots has zeroed in on the burning, the looting, the breaking, the fighting. Do you honestly think there won't be many people who see that on TV, and project themselves in those situations? A mob of mostly young men between ages of 20-30 materializes outside your home.....and what...you just say "Aw shucks, those wacky kids" and go back into your living room?? After the violence and carnage that has been mainlined into the American consciousness by the MSM over the past month, and after social media posts insisting that the carnage was making a coordinated move into the 'burbs?

It is very easy to play armchair quarterback, and focus on the details of this encounter instead of the big picture story, and what has transpired recently.

Aside from dismissing anxiousness and fear over private property, I'm getting the impression that because the crowd was on their way to the governor's mansion, or that since "this is a morally quote unquote JUST cause" that these things in some way cancel out or supersede the fact that the crowds are trespassing on private property. I've never seen so much semantic ballet and wordplay to try to dance around that fact. The protestors ain't got no right to be there. Period. The End. In another age where sanity prevailed, law enforcement would be on the ball and interceding on behalf of the occupants of those houses, but as we see after a coordinated assault and attempt at neutering police activity, SURPRISE! no police seen on-site in the clip, and poorly trained and panicky citizens, feeling left out in the cold, take up arms to try to intimidate and warn the crowds that they won't abide anyone smashing their windows, denting their cars, even so much as smacking their mailbox.

I think people should prepare. We keep talking about the "new normal" of COVID; this is what the "new normal" of social interaction looks like.

* something happens to trigger the Wokees, political, social, something with racial undertones
* Wokees get angry, MSM helps whip them into a fury
* Wokees take to the streets
* police are ordered to stand down, particularly in areas where authorities seem to think this is tolerable
* fearful citizens realize Johnny Law isn't riding in with the cavalry, so they step up to defend their property

All of this is a prelude to what's coming down the pike. Eventually the Wokees are either going to run out of things to trash in the urban and suburban areas, or decide they will get more traction or satisfaction if they start bringing the noise to who they're REALLY after. Then we're going to see the main event, which I'm guessing is going to make this undercard staring contest nonsense look like a Chuckee Cheese birthday party.