The IDs of the Parties involved in the 2007 Nimitz UFO Video Leak are Known!!!

a reply to: coursecatalog

What a load of jiggery woo?

a reply to: coursecatalog

Elaine Douglass' sources within MUFON told her after Bigelow started siphoning off experiencer accounts:

There's definitely something to it. But I don't think it's about space aliens taking people. Remember the smell of TRONDANT?

Then Bigelow paying John Carpenter $14k for MUFON's abduction files. Unethical if not quite illegal. And of course Kit Green's Experiencer Group

a reply to: celltypespecific

About what is MM wrong? Be specific. You keep posting that Mirageman is wrong. About what? I repeat: be specific. Your reply to a long and detailed post of his, covering multiple people and multiple facets, is “You’re wrong.” Address each thing.

a reply to: mirageman
Oh I agree. I should have said "alleged anomalous events."

Green told Burroughs he was only interested in military experiencers at the time because there were detailed medical paper trails for these individuals. Obviously he may have been interested because civilians were not being exposed to the same experimental military tech.

originally posted by: coursecatalog

No endorsement of the increasingly Woo Woo UFO Joe implied.

Almost like they destroy folk here & there and treat any such destruction as either scientifically relevant to the military-industrial-complex or the acceptable detritus of "by any means necessary" operational methods.

As y'all are pointing out, the "neuroscience" aspect of all this keeps rearing its head and seems an important component. The tweaking of belief systems, I believe answers at least some of the questions about what we're seeing.

Is that a major objective or just a component?

a reply to: coursecatalog

Didn't Green and co also tell John he had some sort of special DNA too?

a reply to: KansasGirl

....About what is MM wrong?

I think Cellty's medication has stopped working and he's getting confused when I get things right.

As we all know. Two rights don't make a wrong.

originally posted by: mirageman
a reply to: KansasGirl

....About what is MM wrong?

I think Cellty's medication has stopped working and he's getting confused when I get things right.

As we all know. Two rights don't make a wrong.

He/she will completely ignore my question. Then the next time TTSA/intelligence agencies/no-longer-honest-reporter Leslie Kean and those of her ilk publish some stupid, vaguely double-speak worded piece of AAV ALIENS!!!! trash, Celty will fall for it and come along and spam every thread with “We did it! This is Disclosure!” idiocy. He/she would have to actually use his/her brain to address the issues and red flags you’ve brought up, and he/she might then have his/her little “Disclosure! Aliens!” fantasy bubble pierced. So, we know Celty won’t be addressing about what you are “wrong.” 😂

originally posted by: coursecatalog

Green told Burroughs he was only interested in military experiencers at the time because there were detailed medical paper trails for these individuals. Obviously he may have been interested because civilians were not being exposed to the same experimental military tech.

Remember that Bigelow required employees at his Skinwalker Ranch to take a brain scan, as a condition of employment.

And apparently it was Dr. Green who was responsible for arranging the procedure.

badufos.blogspot.com...

a reply to: RobertSheaffer

I have to ask. Is the Gorman family a real family? Have they ever given a single statement of any weird incident happen at the ranch? Did anyone ever try to track them down? Because right now all i got is Knapps story. And that doesn't cut it.

And to not derail the thread, the leaker is known, yet no action has been taken. This speaks volumes of the whole nimitz charade. It would be interesting for us to learn his name. Obviously the powers that be don't care so why is he hiding?

originally posted by: IMSAM
a reply to: RobertSheaffer

I have to ask. Is the Gorman family a real family? Have they ever given a single statement of any weird incident happen at the ranch? Did anyone ever try to track them down? Because right now all i got is Knapps story. And that doesn't cut it.

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"Gorman" is a pseudonym for "Sherman". Terry Sherman was the former owner of the Sherman Ranch, now called "Skinwalker Ranch."

Since much of the really far-out stuff was witnessed only by him, I frankly think he's been making a lot of stuff up.

skinwalkerranch.org...

a reply to: RobertSheaffer

Many roads seem to lead back to Bigelow and his UFO Mob in this story. Going back twenty five years or more.

As we know Bigelow set up BAASS who were handed the AAWSAP contract in 2008. A decade before that Bigelow bought Skinwalker Ranch. There is very little evidence anything paranormal or strange occurred there before the Shermans arrived. A family who were apparently scared out of their wits during their time there. Yet after selling up Tom Sherman remained on the ranch as a paid caretaker. Silenced with a Bigelow NDA.

After the family went [but Sherman stayed on] there appeared to be nothing going on again.

.......Uintah County Sheriff's Sgt. Steve Hatzidakis said no one has reported UFOs, unusual animal deaths or any other strange activity since Bigelow bought the ranch. He said two cattle mutilations on a neighboring ranch were reported last summer. Sherman signed a nondisclosure agreement with Bigelow after selling the ranch and has declined subsequent interviews with the Deseret News.

Deseret News April 27, 1997

Six months later another report appeared.

Millionaire Searches for UFOs on Ranch in UTAH

Fort Duchesne Utah - The search for answers to life's greatest mysteries has led millionaire Robert M. Bigelow to an isolated cattle ranch in the heart of the Uintah Basin.

Here, far from the bright lights of his native Las Vegas, the real estate magnate hopes his team of scientists can unearth the roots of UFO folklore prevalent in this region since the 1950s.

Bigelow, easily the most prominent American financier in the paranormal research field, is convinced there is something to the weird stories told by the family of Terry Sherman.

Last July the Shermans broke years of silence and went public with bizarre tales of strange lights and UFOs on their 480 acre ranch.

Sherman said he and other members of his family had seen lights emerging from circular "doorways" that seemed to appear in mid-air, had three cows mutilated and several others disappear. The rancher also reported unusual soil impressions in the soil and circles of flattened grass in a pasture.

The Sherman's story appeared in the Deseret News and on a national radio broadcast. Bigelow met with the Shermans and negotiated to buy the ranchfor about $200,000.

The Sherman family has relocated to a smaller ranch 15 miles - far removed, they hope, from the disturbing occurrences they endured for 18 months.

Bigelow has erected an observation building and moved in a pair of scientists and a veterinarian. He has someone on the property 24 hours a day, recording anything out of the ordinary.

Officially, the research is being conducted by the National Institute for Discovery Science, which Bigelow formed last October. Among scientists involved is John B. Alexander, former director of non-lethal weapons testing at Los Alamos National Laboratories in New Mexico.

"Our approach is to do good, high-quality research using a standard scientific approach and do what we can to get hard data," Alexander said in a telephone interview from the institute's Las Vegas offices. "One of the missions of the institute is to make information widely available."

Bigelow declined an interview. Alexander would not provide details of how or why the research is being conducted.

Sherman, now employed by Bigelow to maintain the ranch, said he can no longer discuss the activity because of a nondisclosure agreement Bigelow had him sign.

Alexander said results of the study would be published in scientific journals and on the institute's Web page. Other research documents and information about the institute is available on the Internet at (www.accessnv.com...).

The secretive behavior concerns other UFO researchers...

The whole ordeal has been difficult for the Shermans, who say they lost money on the sale. Sherman said he was offered more money by a Colorado family and a local hunting club but did not want to put anyone at risk.
"It's just been a bad deal all the way around," he said. "All that's really redeeming is that you have some knowledge that a lot of people don't have, for what it's worth."

Eugene Register Oct 24th 1996

Let's break that down.

You have John Alexander saying

One of the missions of the institute is to make information widely available."

Ironically and laughingly followed by a refusal to comment by Bigelow. The man who bought abduction reports from and then destabilised MUFON with his Star Team Project. Bigelow also cleaned out the MUFON database as part of his contract with that organisation and then kept quiet about it being funded with government money!

The original scared rancher Tom Sherman signed a non-disclosure agreement preventing him speaking up. More irony. Not only that I suspect that whole Sherman stories from the ranch were fiction.

Sherman, had strangely refused more money from others because he didn't want to "put people at risk". Did he think paying Bigelow less money put him less at risk? That's nonsensical.

Despite Sherman's ordeal, he was now staying on at the ranch employed by Bigelow to maintain it!!!

Paranormal study? Or an out of the way place for the spooks to study something else entirely like human experimentation? As some of the former guards there have alluded to.The ranch is even on the border of Native American land. Where the laws are not quite the same as elsewhere.

Seems to me that an elaborate cover story was put in place decades ago for what really went on at that ranch. Perhaps like this latest TTSA operation. Lots of bluster but then little information leaks out as to the real purpose.

One or more of the same group of spooks are always involved in these projects. From Skinwalker Ranch to NIDS to BAASS to TTSA. They seem adept at securing taxpayers money and funding from billionaire benefactors for their studies.

But what are they really studying?

THANK-YOU TTSA!









Have a wonderful day everyone!!!

a reply to: celltypespecific

Yawn and more yawn

a reply to: mirageman

Pretty much. Hazard waste — any all types of environmental contamination — doesn’t get the Toxic Avenger treatment when dumped on Indian Country.

Casinos and Hazardous Waste: Getting Paid Tribal-style

GOODMORNING WONDERFUL PEOPLE!!!!!! Its such a lovely day!!!!!



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originally posted by: celltypespecific
THANK-YOU TTSA!

Have a wonderful day everyone!!!

About what, exactly, in your own words, are you thanking TTSA? Also- you never answered my question of about what has Mirageman been wrong? Since you never even acknowledged that question, yet keep performing your bizarre cheerleading drive-by posts of zero substance, it’s clear that you don’t actually believe MM has been wrong about anything. If you did, you would refute his very specific and supported assertions. Instead, you continue to post tweets from others that have nothing to do with anything.

Makes me wonder if you can actually even read.

originally posted by: KansasGirl
Reply to: celltypespecific


About what, exactly, in your own words, are you thanking TTSA? Also- you never answered my question of about what has Mirageman been wrong? Since you never even acknowledged that question, yet keep performing your bizarre cheerleading drive-by posts of zero substance, it’s clear that you don’t actually believe MM has been wrong about anything. If you did, you would refute his very specific and supported assertions. Instead, you continue to post tweets from others that have nothing to do with anything.

Makes me wonder if you can actually even read.

From one 'girl' to another -
- Amen, Sister!!

Cellty your Posts are like an eggy fart. They befoul the air for a while and then dissipate. Less cheer leading and more evidence

I don't talk much on here, but have been watching and listening for a long long time. This is ONLY MY OPINION, through my former job in the military in which I did have a bit of access to news/gossip /rumor on ufo's, it is my humble opinion that I believe this is a timed release of information, to aid an upcoming agenda. Why did most of the public not bat a eyelid to the video in 2007, then years later there is a big reveal in newspapers, news channels and tv shows. It tells me the time was not quite right then but is now. As for who leaked it and why, I'm not sure, but it's pretty obvious the u.s navy want this out there, to start seeping into everyone's grey matter, or someone would have been doing time by now. The phenomenon in my opinion must be one of two things, either its our top secret tech (electro/gravitic) or it's something way more darker. The gentleman who are behind the study don't look like good guys to me, Tom d is a Satanist I'm sure and the rest of the gang are at best atheists, even big Lou looks like a little divil with that suspect goatee lol, so it leans me towards the latter option. With all that has happened in the last 6 month I think all the old bluebeam/ last card scenarios may be coming to a head, in my opinion these things have never came from outer space and have always been here. TPTB who ever they are, want you to think these things are from outer space when in reality they are probably from another dimension (heaven/hell) and are probably demonic in nature. I have no proof of this just a gut feeling, and as for skullduggery here on ATS who knows, there could be spys, shills, and everything in between for all I know, I could be one, any of you could be one, but we will never know, but that is the nature of the beast, is it not? I hope the truth comes out. Thanks for all the brilliant threads over the years ATS, God bless to all.
P. S hi MM