trumps ENTIRE staff from the tulsa rally are in a 14 day quarantine

If they did not quarantine for 14 days,
President Trump would have been lambasted in the media for being careless and trying to infect the entire capitol hill.

It was the smart thing to do.

Am I missing something



Respectfully,
~meathead

originally posted by: NorthOfStuff
My understanding is that the global "lock down" was to flatten the curve to ensure that the health system would not be overloaded. This was to ensure that people with Covid that required medical help would not be turned away. If the system was overloaded people who would have otherwise survived would have died due to not receiving treatment.

Most hospitals are now prepared, we understand the hospitalization rate better than we did in the beginning, and we can't hide away forever.

Most of us will get it at some point. The virus probably isn't going away anytime soon and "herd immunity" needs to be achieved through a measured rate of exposure.

If we are to be concerned about filling hospitals the demonstrations and riots should be more of a concern than a rally of 6000 or so or a small sports gathering.

Likely quite a few had it in November, Dec, Jan

originally posted by: Mike Stivic
If they did not quarantine for 14 days,
President Trump would have been lambasted in the media for being careless and trying to infect the entire capitol hill.

It was the smart thing to do.

Am I missing something

Respectfully,
~meathead

Yes it was the smart thing to do. The problem is that he is putting out mixed messaging about the severity of the virus by condemning widespread testing, refusing to wear a mask, etc. while covering his own ass. If it is severe enough for his own staff to quarantine for an entire two weeks, then must also be severe enough for everyone to either: 1) stay at home as much as possible, or 2) wear masks in public.

Obviously we can't stay at home forever, so at the very LEAST the man should start encouraging his base to wear masks. "What have you got to lose?"

Are pregnant women an at risk group? Seems like they haven’t been singled out as such, only elderly and those with pre existing health issues like cancer and heart illness seem to be at risk groups.

a reply to: research100

a reply to: solarjetman

Did someone tell you not to wear a mask?

a reply to: Rob808

I was reading an article yesterday. The CDC expanded their list and modified it some. The added pregnant women to it... not that they are in more risk of death, but they are more at risk of more serious symptoms that require hospitalization and icu care if I remember right.

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: solarjetman

Did someone tell you not to wear a mask?

I'm not sure if you're trolling or not, but I'll bite. When Trump refuses to wear a mask in public-- even when visiting the mask factories or at the request of places he's visiting-- AND turns around and mocks Biden for wearing one, he is implicitly making a political statement about what it means to wear a mask. The only acceptable statement is that this is a bipartisan issue and everyone SHOULD be wearing one to the best of their abilities. Studies are saying we could reduce deaths by 30k if most people wore masks in public. Trump, however, seems to prioritize "triggering the libs" over the lives of Americans.

Even if the enlightened folks here want to argue semantics about implicit versus explicit, or that Trump wears a mask every moment outside of when a camera is on him, his actions matter. He holds the highest office in the land and people pay attention to what he's doing. It's why calls to poison control centers skyrocketed when he asked about injecting disinfectant REGARDLESS of his intentions. Now you see the mask issue playing out when you hear stories of people getting assaulted for wearing them, or denying a customer entry for not wearing one, and why Democrats are twice as likely to say that masks should always be worn than Republicans.

just saw the latest inside the trump rally were stickers in the rows says to social distance..trump sent his "PEOPLE" through the arena to remove them.......a reply to: solarjetman

a reply to: Agit8dChop

really? because 400.000 in LA alone were tested positive before the Confort & Mercy showed up.

did 9% die?

no.

www.worldometers.info...

stop fear-mongering.

People dying normally or with comorbidities at a normal rate yet being logged as dying FROM COVID. remember the guy who was pushed into a train? listed as dying FROM COVID.

calm down.

the four strains of seasonal FLU have caused more deaths in your lifetime & you didn't grow up up a bubble or with a useless mask.

how many times did you pass by the seasonal flu shots at a pharmacy? did you die?

......so I have heard this mentioned a few times a guy was pushed on the train tracks hit by the train death is listed as covid 19 what is the guys name how about a link I want some info I can check.......

a reply to: reeferman

Uk news lol. Maybe this is true, I won't t click on the link. I just don't understand how someone from over there can be so interested in our politics yet you have such an effed up system over there.

Do people really love the royal family? Do people think they deserve their wealth and privilege?

originally posted by: research100
just saw the latest inside the trump rally were stickers in the rows says to social distance..trump sent his "PEOPLE" through the arena to remove them.......a reply to: solarjetman

Exactly.

a reply to: research100

Great OP with some common sense, a rare thing on ATS lately

thank you! yes we need common sense...extreme in either direction is not good a reply to: Willtell

originally posted by: Agit8dChop
a reply to: AgarthaSeed

9% of those who get it die.
Those who get it serious, but survive, have potentially life long ailments
Those who get it and recover, seem to get it again, worse.

This isn't ''very little''
I agree that some of the reporting is not accurate for financial reasons.. but this virus isnt a walk in the park

A nearly 10% mortality rate ?

originally posted by: AgarthaSeed
a reply to: research100

... seem to forget following up with how many of those cases are asymptomatic.

So what's your point about asymptomatic cases?

You understand that people carrying the virus who do not have symptoms can and do pass the virus on to other people do you not?

That means that you could have it, not know it, and pass it to your parents, your children, your neighbors, everyone and anyone.

Asymptomatic doesn't mean no problem - it means bigger problem because you don't know that you have it unless you get tested.

a reply to: rnaa

Maria Van Kerkhove, the World Health Organization’s (WHO) technical lead for COVID-19, said at a press briefing on June 8 that asymptomatic transmission appears to be “very rare.”

time.com...

You need to update your fear porn.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: research100

Why do you care?

Because he or she is human unlike a lot of other people here in slavery to ignorant political dogma.

These people are so brainwashed and filled with hate (let's get the libras) they will even endanger their own children!


tRump is sitting up there being guarded and tested every hour, but his pitiful followers like Herman Cain now are getting sich and in danger of getting sick. Just to show off the libras.

Very ignorant and dangerous