Why was officer chauvin working as a security guard

a reply to: Xtrozero

Indeed, and that's what all this fuss is about.

originally posted by: StallionDuck


Why do many people have 2 jobs?

Doesn't mean 'they' are on the take... Just need more money for whatever reason. When I was a LEO back in the late 90s, I made 7.60 an hour. That wasn't very much. Some places pay high wages but I suspect that most are still under a living wage.

It is easy extra money that normally pays more per hour than their real cop job, but what cop works for a place that launders and counterfeits money that is not on the take?

Oh..then it is burnt down.... There is much more to this story...

What if in all this it turns out that the two worked together in the illegal operation and Floyd stole counterfeit money and Chauvin came after him for doing that and putting the business at risk? Boy that would make the protests seem moot..

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: smkymcnugget420
the story is WHERE he was a security guard.... because you know whats REEEEEALLY good at laundering money... night clubs and strip clubs.

And having a bad cop on the payroll doesn't hurt... They were laundering and passing counterfeit bills. I keep thinking where would Floyd get two counterfeit 20s from, and why would he be so brazen to not only try and pass them off in the neighborhood by try twice at the same store.The only answer I can think of was he stole them and didn't fear the police would mess with him when he tried to pass them, but maybe Chauvin wanted to teach him a lesson of putting the business at risk and ended up murdering him instead.

So Chauvin was Alonzo from Training Day? Weren't like two of the other four cops rookies? 1st week on job or something.

originally posted by: Edumakated

So Chauvin was Alonzo from Training Day? Weren't like two of the other four cops rookies? 1st week on job or something.

Lol ya Training Day...

a reply to: StallionDuck

Exactly right. Now they ban choke holds as if that's gonna stop the next agitated guy from using a choke hold. Democrats just don't think.

a reply to: Xtrozero

That's going into something I know nothing about. If it was a proven laundering place then that changes everything. EVERY thing.


I'm just responding specifically on cops and wages.

originally posted by: LSU2018
a reply to: StallionDuck

Exactly right. Now they ban choke holds as if that's gonna stop the next agitated buy from using a choke hold. Democrats just don't think.

How can the Feds "ban" choke holds?

Unless via "cruel and unusual punishment" ...

Some good ideas in there, it's mostly crap, and it won't go anywhere in the Senate.

a reply to: Xtrozero

Not only that, but they never questioned the store owner who reported Floyd, and the ambulance never checked his vitals when they arrived. They tossed him on the stretcher like a rag doll, put him in the ambulance, and took off.

a reply to: Edumakated

Expendable rookies who had no idea what was really going on.

a reply to: Gryphon66

The police banned them in certain precincts. But it's not going to do anything to stop an agitated cop in a position to use one if he feels it's necessary. Words and laws can't physically stop you.

a reply to: oloufo

Being that criminality is a social construct that was established due to our abuses of each other, that doesnt really make sense does it?

a reply to: jlafleur02

LEOs moonlight all the time in security positions to earn extra money.

Nothing unusual at all.

originally posted by: LSU2018
a reply to: Gryphon66

The police banned them in certain precincts. But it's not going to do anything to stop an agitated cop in a position to use one if he feels it's necessary. Words and laws can't physically stop you.

Right. It's illegal to execute a man on the street too. I get that.

I was approaching it more from the legal aspect. It won't pass the Senate anyway, and they know that so it's more "look we voted for exactly what you guys wanted" and so they don't care that most of it is unconstitutioanl for the Fed.

originally posted by: Creep Thumper
a reply to: jlafleur02

LEOs moonlight all the time in security positions to earn extra money.

Nothing unusual at all.

Because most of them are paid crap wages.

If we want to spend money on something, let's spend it ON the police to help them improve.

Politicians are f-ing psychopaths.

a reply to: Gryphon66

There are a few things that have been banned over the years. Dare I say "Black Jack". It was a black lead powder filled leather strap.

Now days, you have to be certified with any and every tool you use to affect an arrest.

- Radar
- Night Stick
- Pistol
- Shotgun (riot gun)
- Cuffs
- Mace
- Asp (banned in some areas)
- Flashlight (IF you use it to hit someone because it's considered a pipe...)

No.. there is no cert for a flashlight. You just better not hit anyone with it or it will be used in court to say you hit someone with a pipe. Remove the batteries and you'll have a pipe.


Law Enforcement is just like any stress ladened job. The difference is... You carry a weapon. I'm not against LEOs. I'm against stupidity. Most people don't become a cop to be dirty. It just happens along the way.

Think about how many people around you that looks at you and hates your guts. Much of it is unfounded but you don't have a choice. People hate you. Make stuff up about you. Lie on you. Would rather see you laying in a gutter. This is not everyone, these are people who have had a run in with a cop before. Much of it isn't even justifiable as they probably did something wrong to get a ticket or jailed or lectured but it doesn't matter. You are the lowest form on earth.

That is the kind of stress you deal with every day. Your friends are very specific types of friends otherwise you may not have many. people you grew up with or other officers.

Your constantly worried about being sued frivolously. No cops do not get away with everything but they do have some pull.

If you don't have a VERY thick skin, level attitude and a calm life outside of work - chances are, it will affect you mentally. This causes some people to loose their heads and do stupid stuff. Some find it easier to just go with the bad stuff. Some find temptation in money - something cops don't really have much of.

It is human.

It's not all racist. It just looks that way much of the time based on the interactions. Watch Youtube. You see what kinds of smart@$$3s cops deal with. But.. Yes, there are those cops that wear their a$$ on their shoulders. I had officers who were partners that carried it on their shoulders every day. They were sick and tired of the BS... They were sick and tired of looking at the ugly side of life every day. They were tired of all of the Aholes so they became one themselves.


It's not just all black and white. There is a lot of grey in there.

I think cop pay varies a lot some cops in my town made 100,000$ plus. They get overtime directing traffic at construction sites. The contractor has to pay it as some towns require police to do this depending on cop availability. In other words the overtime is there if they want more. I also know for a fact some cops in my area pocket seized money and drugs. Believe it or not some cop have bad drug problems

I think cop pay varies a lot some cops in my town made 100,000$ plus. They get overtime directing traffic at construction sites. The contractor has to pay it as some towns require police to do this depending on cop availability. In other words the overtime is there if they want more. I also know for a fact some cops in my area pocket seized money and drugs. Believe it or not some cop have bad drug problems

originally posted by: jlafleur02
They can't get paid anywhere near what they make as cops. I know some cops. I know some are "on the take" so to speak. Arrest made, they find drugs and cash, the amounts found are less than what convict said was there. It happens so much more than you think. These thing go way up the ladder in almost mafia fashion. Cops don't squeal on cops.
That said a night club is the perfect distribution network. You would need a cop there to keep an eye on business. Maybe that was dirtbags officer chauvins duty there. I don't see how he would take a low pay job like that for little money
So looking at the video he is clearly trying to kill Floyd. Anyone else see corrupt cops running a ring of some kind. I am small town and it happens a lot here. Also any mention of this in media or any Minneapolis residence out there see this type of stuff.
I'm an occums razor guy. The simplest answer usually the solution. Just makes no sense to obviously kill the guy unless a reason. Floyd worked at same nightclub. Was officer chauvin sending a message to others?
Don't roast me for a conspiracy please. Just add something to conversation or examples of police crime rings we all know are out there. Its human nature

You must not get out much; this happens all the time, in many places. In larger cities and larger venues, I'm sure the pay is ok, and there are fringe benefits to be had (think meeting members of the opposite sex) that aren't illegal.

I think you're making a very broad generalization about equating law enforcement working bar/nightclub security with generally or even sometimes, being embroiled in organized crime and the underworld.

That said, I very much believe there are isolated cases where your conspiracy is factual and dirty cops are making bank in providing security.

Maybe cops don't squeal on cops because if one cop gets caught committing a crime the whole world turns on every cop as if they all did it. The public and the media is going to treat them like they're all guilty for every bad thing that happens no matter what they do so what do they have to lose by covering one another's asses?

Not sure what I can contribute... but I do know that in jail you find the same ruthless shenanigans that devour such folk as 'George Floyd'.
This time around... It's racism as usual.
I don't think it was a white against black when 'Chauvin' did what he did. When I watch the video all I see is a cop who enjoyed doing what he did to someone he is allocated to apprehend. In this case he prosecuted 'Floyd' to death. And he enjoyed it.
This aught to be the topic. For it will be a topic when he's sentenced and racism takes its toll on 'Chauvin'.
The inmates, as soldiers, of an hierarchy will allocate for 'Floyd' and prosecute to the degree of brutality.
This is life... And there is a street Justice. Although dumbasses like cops clutter them in jails. Ironic.