Trump emerges from bunker to hold up a Bible outside church in photo op

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: IAMTAT

www.episcopalnewsservice.org... rch/

That is where I got my information from..
Maybe if the pepper gas or whatever they used wasnt so similar to tear gas as far as the discomfort it caused, the clergy and priests wouldnt have made a mistake in identifying it..

Using chemical weapons to remove clergy from church grounds so it can be used for state/political use...
Tell me just how does that one jive with the us constitution, religious freedoms, or the separation of church and state??

LOL!!! Chemical weapons? The police can use pepper spray or tear gas to back up ANY person or crowd anytime they perceive a threat. That's not a constitutional issue. So how in the name of everything that is holy is this a constitutional issue???

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: DoctorBluechip

So the president had a photo op and was appealing to the conservative Christian voter base?

That dirty sum bitch!

Like we've never seen a politician do a publicity photo in an election year.

It's this kind of Breitbart style nonsense which is the issue with you people.

You cry about "fake news" then minimise an issue completely by purposely missing the point.

You're either just as bad as the "fake news" or you're not very bright. That's not an ad hominem attack - if you sincerely think the issue was him "having a photo op" then you have no place discussing politics.

originally posted by: HalWesten

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: IAMTAT

www.episcopalnewsservice.org... rch/

That is where I got my information from..
Maybe if the pepper gas or whatever they used wasnt so similar to tear gas as far as the discomfort it caused, the clergy and priests wouldnt have made a mistake in identifying it..

Using chemical weapons to remove clergy from church grounds so it can be used for state/political use...
Tell me just how does that one jive with the us constitution, religious freedoms, or the separation of church and state??

LOL!!! Chemical weapons? The police can use pepper spray or tear gas to back up ANY person or crowd anytime they perceive a threat. That's not a constitutional issue. So how in the name of everything that is holy is this a constitutional issue???

Breaking up a peaceful protest.

You people are willingly, literally supporting the disregard for the Constitution. You are un-American. Shame on you.

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: Bluntone22

So you have no problem with the President deploying the National Guard against US citizens who weren't breaking the law so he can fluff his ego?

That is just ignorance there and dishonesty. Nobody can deploy the NG "against" people NOT breaking the law, because once deployed, they only act against those who ARE breaking the law. That is how that works.

You believe the NG is any official's private army that will search and destroy any target upon command? They don't do that.

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: Bluntone22

So you have no problem with the President deploying the National Guard against US citizens who weren't breaking the law so he can fluff his ego?

That is just ignorance there and dishonesty. Nobody can deploy the NG "against" people NOT breaking the law, because once deployed, they only act against those who ARE breaking the law. That is how that works.

You believe the NG is any official's private army that will search and destroy any target upon command? They don't do that.

Speaking of ignorance and dishonesty, are you claiming here that deploying the National Guard against Americans protesting justfies any actions because those Americans are automatically guilty of something?

That's starting to sound a lot like an authoritarian regime; any disagreemetn with the government is a crime.

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: Bluntone22

So you have no problem with the President deploying the National Guard against US citizens who weren't breaking the law so he can fluff his ego?

That is just ignorance there and dishonesty. Nobody can deploy the NG "against" people NOT breaking the law, because once deployed, they only act against those who ARE breaking the law. That is how that works.

You believe the NG is any official's private army that will search and destroy any target upon command? They don't do that.

Okay, how good is the lawyers training for the NG? Pretty awesome I guess, as they are able to judge on the spot.
Or, are they just street-judges without any legal training? And their officers, do they know the laws?

Sorry, but acting as a weaponized arm of the police is not part of their duties:

"The National Guard is a unique element of the U.S. military that serves both community and country. The Guard responds to domestic emergencies, overseas combat missions, counterdrug efforts, reconstruction missions and more. Any state governor or the President of the United States can call on the Guard in a moment’s notice. Guard Soldiers hold civilian jobs or attend college while maintaining their military training part time. Guard Soldiers’ primary area of operation is their home state."

originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: StallionDuck
Well, he is the "chosen one"

I wanna see him walk on water and turn parsley into ganja..

a reply to: DoctorBluechip

But I can see Joe Biden making the exact same photo op and being revered by the MSM as pushing for calm and decency. Trump beat them to it and they went nuts over it.

a reply to: Dutchowl

Biden would have listened to the secret see service when they told him that going to the church just to take a few pictures while there was a large group of protesters between them and the church wouldn't be a great idea. Maybe better to wait..

And, since when does the president go anywhere without calling and letting the destination know his plans a few days ahead of time and having secret service spend time ensuring the place is secure..

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: Dutchowl

Biden would have listened to the secret see service when they told him that going to the church just to take a few pictures while there was a large group of protesters between them and the church wouldn't be a great idea. Maybe better to wait..

And, since when does the president go anywhere without calling and letting the destination know his plans a few days ahead of time and having secret service spend time ensuring the place is secure..

Not the point but what it took to get there for that badly done photo op.

a reply to: Spider879

A badly done photo op done on church property after priest and clergy were forcibly removed from the church steps??
Others can proclaim the rights of the protesters between the White House and the church. I am concerned with what happened on the church property....
Did the govt have the right to remove anyone from the church property?

This event guarantees that Biden wins the election in a land slide. Trump has completely lost the people. He doesn't call for unity, he calls for violence and escalation against peaceful protesters. Republican governors, church leaders and everyone else except the moronic evangelicals and ignorant racists have abandoned him. I wouldn't be surprised if he loses Texas this year. Most Christians see him for the phony he is now. An authoritarian who thinks he's above the law.

"I'm an Ally to peaceful protesters," says Trump as you can hear the area being forcefully cleared for a photo op, and the guy who demonized Kaepernick and threatened to have his followers boycott the NFL over his peaceful protesting. The guy has no empathy, no compassion for fellow human beings. He's a racist piece of # that's trying to divide people. When George W tells you, you're too extreme, something is wrong lol.

Lots of bitching here for sure *ahem delete

..But you're on to something I think, there is a hidden symbolic meaning, possibly reminiscent of some freemason thingy but yeah. THERE IS A SIMILAR PHOTO OF BILL CLINTON HOLDING A BIBLE IN FRONT OF THE SAME CHURCH DURING HIS PRESIDENCY THAT IS EASY TO FIND.

a reply to: DoctorBluechip

Funny thing is trump used Obama words in his speech and held the bible at the exact location as Bill Clinton doing his photoopt. He did it to point out that the media is bias and will cry no matter what even if they did it.

Trump is trolling on an epic level.

a reply to: ambassado12

Did Clinton or Obama use pepper gas on clergy from that church to use the same words or take the same photo?

Seriously? You went with "yeah but Obama,Clinton" as a defense?


I mean that type of photo from any non church going adulterer like Trump or Clinton just panders to a certain group but to pepper gas peaceful protesters and clergy to get that photo op is worthy of disdain.

a reply to: frogs453

It's not even the same church. The picture in question is Bill Clinton leaving Foundry Methodist Church with Hillary, after attending service, holding up his own Bible, not "A Bible" like Trump had.

Of course there were no protesters and no tear gas/pepper spray incense in the air.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

Thanks for pointing that out. My point was the whataboutism on display and totally ignoring the fact that for that picture peaceful people were pepper gassed and an Australian news crew were attacked.

Just wanted to say it out loud.

I FKN LOVE TRUMP!!!!!
The best POTUS we could have hoped for.

For those that like his positions on issues, but hate his politics - I say this. We, the silent majority, were being run over. His politics leveled the playing field somewhat. We needed someone to pick a fight. True colors have been shown!
Now you see who is evil, and how they don't care about our country, its' citizens, or justice. They just want to watch it all burn.

A civil war has already begun. Got my popcorn ready.

Our media really is making Red China's draconian state press look intelligent and necessary. Hateful spiteful children lead our media. Really sickening to see how far into the sewers they have gone. I'm sure they will continue to surprise.

a reply to: FingerMan
Very sad.
I don’t think leveling the playing field with militaristic tactics is very smart.
And
What do you mean by silent majority?
Who is being silent? And how many are there?

a reply to: FingerMan

Are you referring to a present-day version of Nixon's appeal to the silent majority of Americans? If, so, is there any centre or middle ground left in the U.S. political spectrum? Who forms the current silent majority?