Experts fear alien invasion would be more like 'Independence Day' than 'E.T.'

a reply to: Planetarian

About a week ago I posted a thread on this guy who calls himself the King of Germany

What do you think might be similarities held by both fellows.

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a reply to: Planetarian

People are afraid of aliens because they think they’ll treat us like we treat each other.

a reply to: ByteChanger

Easier to grow than rockets. Our ancestors have been doing it for a million years. Probably easier to synthesize than building starships too, if our grocery store aisles are any indication.

a reply to: carewemust

The experts have spoken:

originally posted by: HalWesten
I am not willing to call it an alien craft because why would they need lights, different colored lights that blinked on and off, if they were from another world? If they could get here they wouldn't have a need for decorations.

I’m not saying it’s aliens... but....

In all seriousness though... I wouldn’t write something off as terrestrial just because it has a marker light (though I’m not saying by default it was “alien”). End of the day, it’s a craft that’s maneuvering off the surface of the planet at night - no matter how good your tech is id argue that marker lights make sense at low altitudes...

Couple that with scrambled military jets and while one probably shouldn’t jump to “aliens!” You most certainly encountered something of interest...

a reply to: TamtammyMacx

exactly, why blow things up, when all they have to do is give us a vaccine against all the Earth Viruses that has a delayed reaction that triggers in 10 years, that wipes us out in 1 day. Can you imagine, everyone everywhere getting the vaccine, everything is fine for 10 years, then one day, you get sick, and die all in the course of a couple hours. Killing 95% of the population. Then you would use satellites to pick up the ones that remained, and pick out clusters from the air. Down to 99% gone, your colony ships land, everywhere, military comes in starts hunting whatever is left. 99.9% gone. Within 10 years after, everyone is gone, they now control the planet and have the infrastructure. You done need to destroy anything when a virus can wipe out most of the population, anytime you want.

Camain

originally posted by: 38181
a reply to: ByteChanger

If they have the technology to travel the stars, then it would be easy for them to manufacture proteins by rearranging molecules. Why go to all the effort to come to this tiny solar system, much less planet. There’s trillions of better choices to go to.

Edit: To add, the things would more likely be inter dimensional beings instead of long distance space faring vehicles.

Agree about the tech - I’m not sold on the IDH though.

This makes me wonder... why do we speculate that “they” must be so different from us in regards to motives?

If a species has tech to get “here” from “there”, I agree they probably have solved a whole lot of problems as it pertains to resource scarcity - unless they ended up being highly dependent on a finite resource and they’re running out. I find that unlikely as even we dumb humans are working on solving that problem (and frankly already have a solution via nuclear power - as an example - but we chose not to use it).

If that’s true, why would they come to our neck of the woods? Maybe:

- Fleeing a natural disaster
- Recon so they understand what’s happening in the neighborhood.
- Finding more allies in the cosmos for safety in numbers.
- Protecting us from a common enemy.
- Expanding their sphere of control/conquering (the point of this thread).

There’s more.

But... why couldn’t they just be curious? No agenda? Pretty sure there’s a whole bunch of members of this board alone who would sign up instantly for interstellar travel if we had the tech to go meet new species and civilizations - and you’d be doing it just because it sounds amazing interesting and exciting.... not because you want to go commit genocide on another species. And you’re Human (presumably!)! A member of a waring, selfish and destructive species.

Yet, you just want to go see what’s goin on and say hi.

Why do “they” have to be different?

originally posted by: camain
a reply to: TamtammyMacx

exactly, why blow things up, when all they have to do is give us a vaccine against all the Earth Viruses that has a delayed reaction that triggers in 10 years, that wipes us out in 1 day. Can you imagine, everyone everywhere getting the vaccine, everything is fine for 10 years, then one day, you get sick, and die all in the course of a couple hours. Killing 95% of the population. Then you would use satellites to pick up the ones that remained, and pick out clusters from the air. Down to 99% gone, your colony ships land, everywhere, military comes in starts hunting whatever is left. 99.9% gone. Within 10 years after, everyone is gone, they now control the planet and have the infrastructure. You done need to destroy anything when a virus can wipe out most of the population, anytime you want.

Camain

Bullets and laser beams are so 21st century...

That said - I think you’re right - assuming they wanted the planet.

There’s tons of planets though - and tons that could support life. Countless many probably have life on them, it just might be a lot more primitive than we are. Thus trying to take out 8bn members of a weaponized species doesn’t really seem like the juice is worth the squeeze unless we’re sitting on an extremely rare gem even when scaled against the know universe (which I find unlikely).

It's almost a given...that certain ET entities have already peaceably invaded our planet for many years now. They can and have already coexisted with us; by having themselves use certain stealth techniques, that make them almost impossible for us to be aware that they even exist on our planet.

originally posted by: SleeperHasAwakened
If we think logically about the level of technology required to travel here from elsewhere in the galaxy, other species would have needed to master FTL travel, gravitational waves, radiation shielding, advanced navigation, the list goes on and on.

You don't need any of that. All you need are self-sustainig spaceships (space arks) traveling from system to system at low sublight speeds, building additional arks whenever they find enough resources. This way you could colonize a galaxy within a few hundred million years.

If anything Independence day and other movies, not to mention the wars, crime, madness, nuclear weapons, and other human foibles demonstrate to the so-called aliens that we are the biggest problem and threat to the universe, and even to ourselves, not them.

a reply to: gortex

in total agreement, and the word is out with our alien friends who persist on checking in on us.

a reply to: EnigmaChaser

my thought is, they would have to be close, within 2-3 weeks travel time, to want to colonize our solar system(never mind how fast it takes to get here.) That said, if they were within range, they would want earth as a base so that they could terraform Venus, and Mars. Then you establish colonies and grow, and move to the next solar system. Its all relative to time. 20 years to take earth, doesn't mean much when a civilization is around for 20-100k years.

Camain

Why is will smith punching an alien not plausible??

What if the invading aliens are incredibly smart but biologically fragile, like us?

It's easy to assume their techology is beyond ours by the simple metric of being able to travel here, but biologically? We don't know.

We don't know how they will respond to our gravity and atmosphere.

There are so many factors that require so much intelligence and recon before any attempt can be made.

Also, theoritical frame of references have to be fundamentally changed to understand a multi dimensional perspective that isn't tainted by what we are accustom to and falsely attribute.

Another thing about these government psychic and alien invasion experts.

Looking at the take-off of the Space-EX launch this most recent example of human technological advance, I don’t see much difference from the 1969 moon launch.

The same loud, gassy, burning fuel launch 50 years ago to me indicates that human advanced technology may have been slowing down, of course, beyond iPhone’s and other trinkets it appears some kind of force indeed may just be slowing us down, and I don’t blame them!... Since morally and spiritually we seem to as a species to be going backward.

IMO, all this alien fear and talk about how “we can take ET home" is a bunch of Bull Sh__ and part of the psyop to convince the public we are as advanced as these aliens and can take them on.

I noticed those folks in that capsule were so jammed in it, almost like sardines in a can, I doubt humans are anywhere near the technology of these aliens.

originally posted by: Erno86
It's almost a given...that certain ET entities have already peaceably invaded our planet for many years now. They can and have already coexisted with us; by having themselves use certain stealth techniques, that make them almost impossible for us to be aware that they even exist on our planet.

I used to think this was unlikely, but these days I'm not so sure, particularly with so many accounts of average people suddenly spotting what are apparently "aliens" in everyday situations. Although rather than ETs, I think "others" might be more accurate, since they don't necessarily come from outer space but just "someplace else" physically or conceptually.

originally posted by: Willtell
Looking at the take-off of the Space-EX launch this most recent example of human technological advance, I don’t see much difference from the 1969 moon launch.

Quite true. Yes, we have computers now and shiny spaceships. But the technology behind our power systems is well over a century old at this point, and our rockets still run on burning gas. Unless there is a huge paradigm shift soon as it relates to how we understand the fundamentals of matter/ energy/ consciousness/ existence, there's no way we could stand up against any spacefaring civilization that wants to attack us.

originally posted by: EnigmaChaser

originally posted by: HalWesten
I am not willing to call it an alien craft because why would they need lights, different colored lights that blinked on and off, if they were from another world? If they could get here they wouldn't have a need for decorations.

I’m not saying it’s aliens... but....

In all seriousness though... I wouldn’t write something off as terrestrial just because it has a marker light (though I’m not saying by default it was “alien”). End of the day, it’s a craft that’s maneuvering off the surface of the planet at night - no matter how good your tech is id argue that marker lights make sense at low altitudes...

Couple that with scrambled military jets and while one probably shouldn’t jump to “aliens!” You most certainly encountered something of interest...

Interesting, definitely. There were five of us sitting around a pool late one night. We were there on vacation during the July 4th holiday. I was 13 at the time, my brother was 6. The other family had a boy my age, a girl that was 15 and another boy that was 17. All of us saw this - thing. I looked online but didn't find any reports of it around that date but it was low, must have been barely 100' above the houses and it hummed loudly. It went over this neighborhood across Phoenix over the downtown area, that's when we heard the jets coming. The craft moved toward what the other kids called the south mountains fairly quickly, then up on an angle and out of sight as the jets followed. I've seen military jets at other times to compare and these were moving. Fast.

I think it was a military prop, some sort of craft they were testing but I don't know. My brother actually brought it up to me a few months back, I had forgotten he was even outside with us at the time. Just to make sure I didn't influence him I asked what he remembered seeing and it was identical to my memory.

originally posted by: Blue Shift

originally posted by: Willtell
Looking at the take-off of the Space-EX launch this most recent example of human technological advance, I don’t see much difference from the 1969 moon launch.

Quite true. Yes, we have computers now and shiny spaceships. But the technology behind our power systems is well over a century old at this point, and our rockets still run on burning gas. Unless there is a huge paradigm shift soon as it relates to how we understand the fundamentals of matter/ energy/ consciousness/ existence, there's no way we could stand up against any spacefaring civilization that wants to attack us.

I think you’re spot on here.

"Paul H. Smith is the longest serving controlled remote viewing (CRV)* teacher active today, having begun his career as an instructor in 1984. He served for seven years in the government’s Star Gate remote viewing program at Ft. Meade, MD (from September 1983 to August 1990). Starting in 1984, he became one of only five Star Gate personnel to be personally trained as remote viewers by the legendary founders of remote viewing, Ingo Swann and Dr. Harold E. Puthoff at SRI-International. Paul was the primary author of the government RV program’s CRV training manual, and served as theory instructor for new CRV trainee personnel, as well as source recruiting officer, unit security officer, and unit historian. He went on to teach controlled remote viewing to such well-known remote viewing personalities as Lyn Buchanan, Mel Riley and David Morehouse. Paul is credited with over a thousand training and operational remote viewing sessions during his time with Star Gate."

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