Big Tech is going to come for you Mr. President

a reply to: HalWesten

Problem is, none of these are first amendment issues

reason why I say it could be a 1st amendment issue is if twitter can say to someone we are fact checking your claim that you are making. twitter is essentially calling your speech a lie.

originally posted by: American-philosopher
a reply to: HalWesten

Problem is, none of these are first amendment issues

reason why I say it could be a 1st amendment issue is if twitter can say to someone we are fact checking your claim that you are making. twitter is essentially calling your speech a lie.

The First Amendment restricts government actions, not Twitter's.

Why would he or any other president care about what you can say with a private companies service?

a reply to: CriticalStinker


hopefully he will care when he feels the wrath of big tech. I mean they cant ban him because he is the president . I think they have alrady been down that avenue.

You are right but they are Monopolies. That is fact. Just like AT&T used to be the incumbent phone company with minor rural and fake competition, these monopolies need to be broken up or and regulated.

a reply to: infolurker

right. what I am saying is it seems the big tech companies are banding together to censor people and ban them from all major social media platforms.

a reply to: American-philosopher

What do you think should be done?

More laws and regulations on private business?

a reply to: network dude

This is a little bit of a bigger issue then "Private company they can do whatever they want" When you have a tech compnay that can remove or deem a protest/rally not okay and then can support a different type of rally and protest. I think thats an issue of fairness.

again some of these platforms need to be loked at almost as if its a public square because I think that how the users view them.

Should twitter and other companies censor, block and ban ALL conservative and/or right wing speech?

Of course they should, right? By the sound of it that’s exactly what is wanted by those with very low IQ scores. “Opposing viewpoints should NEVER be heard”

Also, a bakery owner can also set their own terms and conditions and refuse service to ANYONE they want to. Right?

Didn’t think so.

Yes they do and until the laws are changed they will continue to do so. It's still not a 1st Amendment issue.

a reply to: HalWesten

SO if you are being censored on all major platforms that is not curtailing your speech? Onviously you can go to a street corner and say your views and ideas. But I think we all know online commmunication is a pretty big deal now.

It is again lessening your voice.

Has anyone bothered to read what actually happened?

They corrrected one of Trump's blatant lies.

Is anyone saying Trump should be able to lie without correction?

originally posted by: American-philosopher

Why would he or any other president care about what you can say with a private companies service?

a reply to: CriticalStinker


hopefully he will care when he feels the wrath of big tech. I mean they cant ban him because he is the president . I think they have alrady been down that avenue.

He's felt the wrath of big government and big tech. The FBI made a nothing case out of Flynn to try and get to Trump, they literally manufactured a crime. Big tech has been censoring the right for a while now (albeit I'm far more conserned about government overreach than private companies we have an option to use, and the right just gets less of a fair shake, they censor many).

That hasn't stopped Trump or the right from actually trying to address this misuse of power. Almost all of the politicians on the left and right have continued giving multiple arms of the government the ability to stomp on the constitution.

My question is, all their lip service aside, if we look at their actions, what gives you the idea Trump, or any politician would try and look out for our rights?

It's simply amazing the amount of narrative reinforcment required to keep the cognative dissonance at bay.

It's almost like ... a mantra.

Twitter hasn't censored Trump; he posted a lie, they noted that it was a lie.

Again, not censorship.

a reply to: Gryphon66

The First Amendment restricts government actions, not Twitter's

well you are right about that. I still retain that this is a huge censorship issue. And I still reserve the right to revisit the 1st amendment issue when it revolves around facebook as they recently colloborated with state official regard these recent protest.

ANd also Youtube Collaborating with the W.H.O

a reply to: scraedtosleep

More laws and regulations on private business?

SO we are lumping big tech now with all private companies? haha

I think we have to look at these companies differently because this a complex issue revolving around thoughts,ideas,views,

That some may find controversial especially when you are a commincations platform, where the main driver is thoughts,views, and ideas.

a reply to: American-philosopher

When Twitter or Facebook become the government, that is when it will be a First Amendment issue.

Other than that, don't believe everything you read on your chosen media channels.

The media is not our friends.

The irony of the orange idiot's actions is that he is bitching about censorship and in the same breath threatening to shut down a media outlet. Hypocrite much?

Pointing out someone's mistakes is not censorship. When it comes to the US President, or anyone in power, it is a duty.

OH lets go!! for the ATS memebrs who yesterday said I was wrong

UPDATE!!!

www.cnn.com...

Its like I have a microphone straight to the president!

trump lashes out at big tech companies

When Twitter or Facebook become the government, that is when it will be a First Amendment issue.

a reply to: Gryphon66

But now we have the president even saying "its stifling free speech"

(Again when they come for you that will light a fire under you. I know when they came for ALex and David it didnt matter, but now it matters right MR president)

originally posted by: American-philosopher
But now we have the president even saying "its stifling free speech"

He can say it took a dump in his Cheerios too, it doesn't make it accurate. When Twitter becomes the government than you have a free speech issue, until then it's their platform, don't use it if you don't like it. I sure don't.

and once again who is the "fact checker" thats like everybody abdicating to wikipedia as the ultimate warehouse on knowledge and truth.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

is it not censorship though??