News about secret hypersonic missles

Pentagon confirms development of hypersonic weapons after Trump talks up ‘super duper missiles’

www.foxnews.com... So now it's in the open.Guess most of us on here knew there were weapons that were far ahead of anything we had acknowledged.Now,wish we could be told about the green lady and if they really dropped the space plane development or if it went black.Bet it did,myself.

a reply to: ridgerunner

No he didnt say "super duper missile"

quickly uses intrernet......Oh my, I errrr

Ok Super duper it is then



Sarcasm Mark 2?

a reply to: ridgerunner

So now it's in the open.Guess most of us on here knew there were weapons that were far ahead of anything we had acknowledged.

I'm sometimes surprised that other people don't believe that certain agencies are always a few decades ahead of the general population in terms of advancements.



I think something is made public or available to us only when it's not powerful enough and something better already exists. If the development of hypersonic weapons has been anounced on a mainstream channel like Fox News, where even the enemies of the US can see it, these weapons may already exist.

a reply to: Anon283799

Because they really aren't. There are areas that they might be 8-10 years ahead, at best, but there are areas where the civilian world is well ahead.

Hypersonic programs have been around for decades, and have proven to be extremely difficult. Reusable, air breathing hypersonic platforms have been almost the holy grail of military programs. And have proven, on a good day, to be incredibly hard.

Years ago it probably was decades,now with all the tech available to everyone a few years years ahead probably is all that can be expected.a reply to: Zaphod58

a reply to: Zaphod58

Don't most of the hypersonic platforms they have come away with simply melt after any sustained flight time down to material science limitations?

a reply to: andy06shake

That was one of the more interesting problems they ran into with one platform. Somewhere between 8 and 9 minutes the structure failed and they crashed.

a reply to: Zaphod58

Im sure they will lick the technology one day or manage to create some kind of bubble or shockwave in front of the missile that mitigates the skin temperatures involved similar to the manner to which a supercavitating torpedo functions.

a reply to: ridgerunner

Hasn't russia already had this tech for a few years now? All out in the open.

My guess is that the usa is just now catching up. Or wants to start catching up because I've seen no physical proof that the usa has any hyper sonic weapons.

a reply to: scraedtosleep

They've tested a couple missiles with varying degrees of success. They have the Avengard, and China has the DF-17, which are both HGVs, but not officially operational, although the DF-17 is expected to be declared operational this year. Russia is also working on Zircon, which is a hypersonic missile. The US has had several successful tests and has multiple weapons in development.

Most in-the-field military tech is behind private technology. There are always special projects that are ahead, but especially with the last 20 years or so, private industry is excelling. What people often think is that the tech, which is often just a paper or very small proof-of-concept is actually in use or implemented in systems. In most cases it's not. That's no to say there aren't exceptions. I think people would be shocked to know the hardware and algorithms in some of the most "advanced" systems of their kind currently in use.

a reply to: Halfswede

People hear military tech and expect it to be hardy and resilient and amazing. In reality, it'll be broken five minutes after that private gets his hands on it. As for advanced, the F-22 is being upgraded from late 80s and early 90s computer tech. The F-35 isn't a whole lot better.

a reply to: Zaphod58

I seem to recall seeing a video alluding to the fact that the computer-generated design and shape of the F-35, geared towards advanced stealth, was a closely guarded military secret, and one of the reasons America leads the way with regards to 5th generation fighter planes.

Not saying you wrong all the same, but was China not caught with there paws in the cookie jar some time back trying to get the plans and blueprints to the F-35 so they could build there own piss poor variants?

a reply to: andy06shake

It's not the stealth aspects, or the design. That's all done outside using specialized software. I'm talking about the computers on the aircraft to run all the software. They're being upgraded because they are still using the computers that it was designed with. Aircraft don't get computer upgrades regularly, so they'll keep a computer for 10 or 15 years, sometimes longer.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Zaphod58

Im sure they will lick the technology one day or manage to create some kind of bubble or shockwave in front of the missile that mitigates the skin temperatures involved similar to the manner to which a supercavitating torpedo functions.

Like the black triangles use right? Creates a tube in front of it with almost zero resistance. But thats also thanks to their powerplants producing power to make the plasma. Alot harder for missiles of smaller size.

a reply to: yuppa

I would not really know buddy, but if you can get your hands on one of those black triangles, you can come and take me for a test drive.

My understanding is that said triangles employ the use of some kind of magnetohydrodynamic drive where propulsion is concerned, utilizing the Lorentz force or whatnot.

Apparently spinning plasma is a big requirement.

As to the alleged tech being harder to miniaturize where missiles of a smaller size are concerned, well that's kind of hard to establish without actually seeing how one of those Triangles operates.

It's entirely possible for any company or university to work on classified research for the government if warranted. They know the US has a big brain trust, so it's not like they are afraid to use it. The unfortunate problem is that Chinese assets have been embedded into some of the places that conduct this research and that information ultimately makes its way back to China.

And as for truly "advanced" aircraft out there, the implications of a wrecking something that technologically advanced may be very extreme, so you'd have to imagine they aren't trying to fly this stuff out and about all of the time. Very calculated risks.

At any rate, have faith in US scientists. The Trinity Test was in 1947, couple decades before in 1918, we were using biplanes to control the battlefield. How long has it been since 1947? It wouldn't be a wild assumption to say we probably have some very cool technology out there but now is just not the time.

a reply to: Masisoar

Take the tick-tack ufo for instance that was rather interesting, considering the aerobatics it seems to perform that somewhat defied that law of thermodynamics.

That's got to have belonged to someone, or some corporation or nation around the globe.

Let's face it, we're in desperate need for new, quicker and more efficient ways of killing people.

Considering some of our tech companies had observers on the carrier and the Captain wasn't concerned it's a pretty easy guess whose they werea reply to: andy06shake